I am going to vote this time as I have decided to contribute from my side to choose a better candidate rather then leaving it on procured/illegal voters taking out goons in politics who are making me sick of this politics. I will try to change it by using my vote. What about you ? Can we all, who are educated decide to vote to make a difference?
Re: More reservation
by Niraj Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 05:49 PM
Have some mercy on urself. Don't think that US and likes are ready to roll out red carpet for you.
Re: Re: More reservation
by ravi chandran on Apr 08, 2009 12:15 PM
Hi Niraj,
I have seen your vehent reply to all those brahminical supportees. I really like to be in touch with you. Pls reply to me to my mail id shivamravi@gmail.com or sangeethamravi@yahoo.com or tamilbalaravi@rediffmail.com
We know that after decades of reservations, not much has changed in India for the poor! All this drama of reservations was created by VP Singh to win votes.
What has changed for poor people? Nothing! Reservations only take one person's job and gives it to another. That does not eliminate poverty or injustice!
People need to realise that unless we create equal conditions for everyone, we will all suffer under these crooked politicians.
Re: reservation has proven to be a failed poicy!
by Niraj Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 05:28 PM
Correct your facts. The reservation system was not envisaged as poverty eradication tool but to provide equitable representation (of all castes) in education, bureaucracy, legislation and economy.
Re: Re: reservation has proven to be a failed poicy!
by ashish shekhar on Apr 01, 2009 05:34 PM
better u correct ur facts. Reservation is ment to polarise the society on caste line and use them as votebanks. It has benifited only shameless rich people who misuse it by showing their caste certificate.
Re: Re: Re: reservation has proven to be a failed poicy!
by Niraj Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 05:43 PM
Good one for April fool's day. As if the society was not polarised on caste lines and no discrimination exist based on caste. U r trying to fool others or urself?
Yes, it has benefitted mostly the better-off among the underprevilieged castes and that need to be addressed.
America has overcome its racist past, Hindus will also overcome their distorted casteist past. Lot of recovery has already happened with education, urbanization, modernization and professionalism. One needs to have the ability of all castes to succeed in Life - Thinker (Bramhin), Protector (Kshatriya), Economist (Vaishya) and a Skilled Worker (Shudra). Hence, talking about reservation based on caste by birth is fraud and waste of time unless it has some economic basis. In the 21st century, success is all about performance and productivity for inner fulfillment. Hence, either perform or perish.
Re: Caste by birth is fraud
by deshbhakt on Apr 01, 2009 04:34 PM
Good.
But I am sure there are millions like me who will prefer to marry within our caste only. And there is nothing wrong in it. My caste is an integral part of my heritage and identity.
(I would love to see the pseudo seculars and neo-liberals rant and rave over this)
Re: Re: Caste by birth is fraud
by Rajendra Rao on Apr 01, 2009 05:13 PM
Nothing wrong about marrying within your caste/ language/ religion. That is perfectly within your right. It worked for 5000 years for HINDUS1, and I fail to see why the sickular people want to destroy whatever traditions one holds.
I think holding 27% for SC/ST is also insulting to these people- it basically says that you SC/ST people just can't compete with us!
Re: Re: Re: Caste by birth is fraud
by New York on Jul 24, 2009 12:59 AM
Dear Rajendra Rao, How many fathers have you?. Hope I am not one of them. Please rely upon me.
Re: Caste by birth is fraud
by Ram Sharma on Apr 01, 2009 05:17 PM
Well said sir!!! 60 years of reservation did'nt help them then they should give other deserving people a fair chance
Re: Re: Caste by birth is fraud
by Niraj Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 05:22 PM
Strange logic.... 60 yrs of democracy hasn't uprooted poverty so dump democracy - is this what u mean? The better answer would be better implementation...isn't it?
Re: Re: Re: Caste by birth is fraud
by chetan g on Apr 01, 2009 05:39 PM
I think we should dump the kind democracy we have rt now... now its basically a gonda raj..
Till the last person belive on god. reservation will exist. First belive that there is no god, then ask for removal of reservation. Did any one is ready to prove the existence of god.
If anybody wanted reservation, their certificate and practising licenses (for professionals) should clearly specify in bold "Educated and licensed through quota system".
Re: Reservation with caveat
by Undertaker on Apr 01, 2009 03:57 PM
While i was doing CA one of OBC joined the firm and told me that his brother had to close his practice as Doctor as no body was willing to come to him for treatment as they knew this capabilites. ultimately the guy joined government service anain on reservation basis . you can now know why govt docotra are notorious.
Re: Reservation with caveat
by Undertaker on Apr 01, 2009 03:52 PM
no sir you know many ppl hide their caste to outside world but surrptitiously enjoy reservation quotas. One of my neighbour who used to behave like bhramin wiht tikka and regular poojas turned out to be OBC candidate when he was selected for soem judicial job and i cam eto know about this from Govt. Gazzatte.
Re: Re: Reservation with caveat
by deshbhakt on Apr 01, 2009 04:37 PM
For your kind information, one need not be a Brahmin to wear tikka and do regular poojas. It is a sign of being a proud and good Hindu.
Re: Re: Reservation with caveat
by srinivasan mv on Apr 02, 2009 12:18 PM
True. Even within some communities, they have divisions, like the Reddiars, Mudaliars in Tamil Nadu. Unfortunately, most of them call themselves backward and enjoy reservation. Poojas anyone can do, Tilak or Tikka anyone can have. It is not only Brahmins who do Pooja.
Re: Reservation with caveat
by Niraj Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 04:56 PM
You are for sure living in fool's paradise. Any provision regarding reservation (whether certificate declaring education under quota or providing quota in educational inst.) requires strength at Parliament. Unfortunately, number is not on your side, otherwise you could have prevented the implementation of reservation system.
Re: Reservation with caveat
by A C on Apr 01, 2009 04:03 PM
It is a right of a consumer to know where products are manufactured, the ingredients in the products, date of manufacture, expiry date, batch no., MRP, taxes. For some products you also have to highlight all warnings, eg. bad for kids under 2, smoking hazards, sideeffects of medicines, warranties etc.
When for a Rs 2 Aspirin, or a Rs 50 Shampoo, or a few thousands for TV, Hotels, airtickets, banking, credit cards etc. everything is declared by law, why not for every person the same pitfalls are not declared, whether he is Doctor, Planned approved by engineers / architects, government officials you are dealing with. I think it is our right to know the person who we are dealing with is "Educated and licensed through quota system".
Re: Re: Re: Reservation with caveat
by Niraj Kumar on Apr 01, 2009 05:17 PM
Dreams unlimited but the million dollor question is how you will get it implemented. Unfortunately numbers matter in democratic set-up and it is not in your favour. Sorry but can't help it.
Let's us vote for a educated, clean figure person in elections. We will vote for sure to get rid of bad figures/corrupt people. We only can change the system and for this we have to be in system. LET'S VOTE FOR SURE THIS TIME.
Re: Let's us vote for a educated, clean figure person in electio
by JGN on Apr 01, 2009 03:45 PM
In a democracy people get the govt they deserve. If we elect corrupt/criminals we will get a govt comprising of them only.
Re: Re: Let's us vote for a educated, clean figure person in ele
by chetan g on Apr 01, 2009 05:42 PM
what if all the contestants are corrupt & criminal?
Re: Re: Re: Let's us vote for a educated, clean figure person in
by Pradeep on Apr 01, 2009 06:24 PM
Then we can choose "none of the above" button in EVM, which is present there but we are not aware of it.
