Re: He
by mahabodhi on Apr 02, 2009 12:41 AM
Even Swamy had been RSS man !Perhaps the right man for brahmin SV shekhar !But he wants to join the most brahminical party - so it is BJP for him since congress is now out with most castes !
Re: Re: He
by srinivasan mv on Apr 02, 2009 11:45 AM
BJP is not a Brahmin party. It is a Bania party. Who is a Brahmin in BJP can you name atleast five people?
Re: Re: They will not get reservations
by sumanth kumar on Apr 01, 2009 11:01 PM
nee bonda ,medadu leni mundakodukuvu ra nuvvu ,nee abba kandlu leva ra
think its a good idea to take out reservations, which actually help low caste hindus and OBC's, very little goes to Minorities which is neglible, but everyone is after muslim and minority blood. Morever muslims donot depend on govt. jobs or scholarships etc. They either do their own business or go for foreign jobs. No one takes govt. assistance. Private Minority orgs help them , thats what they get in India.
Re: Bhramins
by Mind Clear on Apr 01, 2009 08:29 PM
Nobody is a Bramhin or a SC or ST or forward or backward. Undistorted Hinduism is Real Secularism. India has not had mixed success just like that. America has overcome its racist past, Hindus will also overcome their distorted casteist past. Lot of recovery has already happened with education, urbanization, modernization and professionalism. One needs to have the ability of all castes to succeed in Life - Thinker (Bramhin), Protector (Kshatriya), Economist (Vaishya) and a Skilled Worker (Shudra). Hence, talking about reservation based on caste by birth is fraud and waste of time unless it has some economic basis. In the 21st century, success is all about performance and productivity for inner fulfillment. Hence, either perform or perish. Excellence in work is the real caste.
Re: Re: Bhramins
by srinivasan mv on Apr 02, 2009 11:49 AM
Sundar, you first marry a tribal girl, who is not educated. Then we will see if caste will go away? Do not do double acting.
Re: Re: Bhramins
by Guest on Apr 01, 2009 09:29 PM
So much of hatred in the mail.What does eradication of caste system mean?In Tamil Nadu it only means that brahmins should be excluded in everything.What does washing shits mean.Brahmins wash their own shit unlike some who wash others.Brahmins never begged for anything.They got seats on merit,jobs on merit promotions on merit and did not need reservations.If they could survive in spite of reservations etc going against them,it only reflects on their ability and calibre.People who cannot match upto Brahmins talk bull shit.
Undistorted Hinduism is Real Secularism. India has not had mixed success just like that. America has overcome its racist past, Hindus will also overcome their distorted casteist past. Lot of recovery has already happened with education, urbanization, modernization and professionalism. One needs to have the ability of all castes to succeed in Life - Thinker (Bramhin), Protector (Kshatriya), Economist (Vaishya) and a Skilled Worker (Shudra). Hence, talking about reservation based on caste by birth is fraud and waste of time unless it has some economic basis. In the 21st century, success is all about performance and productivity for inner fulfillment. Hence, either perform or perish. Excellence in work is the real caste.
Re: Practise Real Hinduism
by mahabodhi on Apr 01, 2009 08:11 PM
@mind clear so first ensure that WORK -Employment is made fundamental righjt for every citizen! do it or perish with ur swiss acccounts !As Sanjay Gandhi had the key which Indira Gandhi was looking for as it had the lead to all Swiss accounst but clever Menaeka Gandhi had it and now Vasrun foroz has it !but if poor 90i dians r not given their rights and land -resources of mother India they all will pwersih to doom !So first ensure the Fundamnta; right for Work -employment for every Indian !Now irs ur mind clear or is still playing with words like the old priests to fool poors and exploit poors !
Re: Re: Practise Real Hinduism
by JGN on Apr 01, 2009 08:16 PM
mahabodhi, black-money is stashed in "numbered accounts" Swiss Bank and not in some lockers for Ms. Indira Gandhi to look for the "keys"!!!
Caste system was more of the contribution of the "invaders". I do not think the ancestors of the late Mr. Kanshiram were a "dalits" as he is fairer than many of the so-called "upper castes".
Tippu Sultan had declared "Nairs", a prominent Upper caste of Kerala lower than the "dalits" by a decree and the Britishers had made "Marathas" lower castes for fighting against them. Caste system in Vedic era was determined by Profession and not by birth. Ved Vyasa was the son of a fisher-wom_an and Valmiki was a tribal.
Re: Re: Re: Practise Real Hinduism
by tajender on Apr 05, 2009 05:24 PM
Mr. Kanshiram were a "dalits" as he is fairer than many of the so-called "upper castes".
Tippu Sultan had declared "Nairs", a prominent Upper caste of Kerala lower than the "dalits
brahamins fkd them so much that their off springs were called HARIJAN.later taken as lower caste of brahamins.
Re: Practise Real Hinduism
by Riv on Apr 01, 2009 08:28 PM
I think its a good idea to take out reservations, which actually help low caste hindus and OBC's, very little goes to Minorities which is neglible, but everyone is after muslim and minority blood. Morever muslims donot depend on govt. jobs or scholarships etc. They either do their own business or go for foreign jobs. No one takes govt. assistance. Private Minority orgs help them , thats what they get in India.
Re: Re: Practise Real Hinduism
by mahabodhi on Apr 01, 2009 08:44 PM
The key in those days was for lockers which had the diary - and the secret SWISS number acounts ! and off course with Swiss Bank Account numbers u also had to sign and ur nominees or joint holders !Indira Gandhi was no fool to keep Swiss accounts in her name - It was in Sanjay's wife Maneka's name !And Maneka is most richest lady !she had fleet of 250 trucks for duty on Coca cola opoerations during those days !well ...... as she refused to divluge about the Swiss accounts -that seems to the only reason for her expulsion from Indira's household -and who was responsible for JP's health detrerioation in jail during emergency !Was she not reigning queen in emergency ! Politics is really starnge as many change their stand and become bedfelloows any time !today the lady responsible for emergency and jail terms of Atl- JP- chendershekhar r praising and supporting the same pwerson Maneka who in her surya mazine after 1977 was justifying the jail for JP and others like LK Advani others ! Emergency was good as it dubbed all those antinatinal for MISA detention as they themselves r today aligned with Maneka the queen of emergency and Sanjay and progeny of the same !but where is the key to locker - which contaioned the information about Swiss Accounts !and it was Sanjay who was the running even Indusrtry - with Maruti project -which later sold to suzuki!and how the surrounding land was bulldozed for making roads to Maruti factory is folk lore !Where is the Key !
Re: Re: Practise Real Hinduism
by mahabodhi on Apr 01, 2009 08:43 PM
The key in those days was for lockers which had the diary - and the secret SWISS number acounts ! and off course with Swiss Bank Account numbers u also had to sign and ur nominees or joint holders !Indira Gandhi was no fool to keep Swiss accounts in her name - It was in Sanjay's wife Maneka's name !And Maneka is most richest lady !she had fleet of 250 trucks for duty on Coca cola opoerations during those days !well ...... as she refused to divluge about the Swiss accounts -that seems to the only reason for her expulsion from Indira's household -and who was responsible for JP's health detrerioation in jail during emergency !Was she not reigning queen in emergency ! Politics is really starnge as many change their stand and become bedfelloows any time !today the lady responsible for emergency and jail terms of Atl- JP- chendershekhar r praising and supporting the same pwerson Maneka who in her surya mazine after 1977 was justifying the jail for JP and others like LK Advani others ! Emergency was good as it dubbed all those antinatinal for MISA detention as they themselves r today aligned with Maneka the queen of emergency and Sanjay and progeny of the same !but where is the key to locker - which contaioned the information about Swiss Accounts !and it was Sanjay who was the running even Indusrtry - with Maruti project -which later sold to suzuki!and how the surrounding land was bulldozed for making roads to Maruti factory is folk lore !Where is the Key !
Re: Re: Re: Practise Real Hinduism
by JGN on Apr 01, 2009 08:48 PM
Where is the Key! Why not have a treasure hunt like Victoria 402 to find out the key??
Hence Govt must appreciate cultural and socio-economic diversity in Private Institutions, Temples, Judiciary and in Defense services.
* 50% of Temple Priests,Judges,Defense Staff must be from OBC communities. * 35% Temple Priests,Judges,Defense Staff must be from Dalits and Tribals. * Remaining Temple Priests,Judges,Defense Staff must be from other Castes.
You must do this till 85% of all registered marriages in India are INTER-CASTE or INTER-FAITH. This is the only way to STOP India from dis-integrating.
Re: Hinduism is covert mask for Casteism.
by Mind Clear on Apr 01, 2009 07:49 PM
That depends who taught you Hinduism. India has not succeeded just like that. America has overcome its racist past, Hindus will also overcome their distorted casteist past. Lot of recovery has already happened with education, urbanization, modernization and professionalism. One needs to have the ability of all castes to succeed in Life - Thinker (Bramhin), Protector (Kshatriya), Economist (Vaishya) and a Skilled Worker (Shudra). Hence, talking about reservation based on caste by birth is fraud and waste of time unless it has some economic basis. In the 21st century, success is all about performance and productivity for inner fulfillment. Hence, either perform or perish. Excellence in work is the real caste.
Re: Hinduism is covert mask for Casteism.
by Matt on Apr 01, 2009 07:42 PM
Brahmins should get all India reservation. There reservation share should be 3% based on the brahmin population strenght. The rest of of 97% reservation should to other cast bc/mbc/sc/st
Re: Re: Hinduism is covert mask for Casteism.
by mahabodhi on Apr 01, 2009 08:14 PM
So mind clear!get ur facts checked !and resrvation in all resouces - Industries !So in fact distribute all wealth of all individuals in each proportions for all Indians !That;s is going to happen any way mind clear !The Proletrian rule is theonly waty for poor indians !As Lord Budhdha said " Greed is cause of misery ! So give ur assests to STATE and let State take care of all !That is what proletrian rule is !
Re: Re: Re: Hinduism is covert mask for Casteism.
by JGN on Apr 01, 2009 08:20 PM
Communism is a good ideology (to each according his need and from each according to his ability) but a few corrupt persons spoiled the same beyond redemption. A mixture of Capitalism and Communism is only feasible now. Even the Chinese govt moved towards Capitalism and are the main source of supply even for USA.
Re: Hinduism is covert mask for Casteism.
by mel gibson on Apr 01, 2009 08:30 PM
you go to mars and creat your own population and adopt this procedure. nobody is interested in india to adopt your above ways mr.new york
Re: Re: Hinduism is covert mask for Casteism.
by New York on Apr 02, 2009 10:29 AM
mel gibson, you go to mars and creat your own population and adopt this procedure. nobody is interested in india to adopt your above ways
In TN, brahmins are most arrogant community, Yes i watch few changes in the recent years, Eventhough in cornering the govt job fortheir caste persons and refusing to acknowledge the other caste peoples efficiency even to small extent. refusing to be friendly with others even at at situation both has to sleep in the same bed for several years, Refusing to acknowledge the others also has the need to get the job, They brutally refuse even a fellow passenger travelling in the same compartment of train. For all these i am not asking them to be eliminated but such apopular guy should not support the wrongs. Even in TN private industry they never reccommend other caste people. They should change and try to live in harmony with others and not keeping in isolation.
Re: SV Sekar illogically ask for 7%reservation,100% is correct
by Ram Balakrishnan on Apr 02, 2009 07:16 PM
I think there is too much of generalization. Currently I don't see any Brahmin in government offices. So you mean to say all the non brahmin guys very courteous and friendly? These kind of Hitlers need to be eliminated who sow hatred. Tell me in private companies run by non brahnmin, do they give prominence to all the other caste and religion people in terms of employment? It is a common phenomenon nothing related with one particular caste. I think you are viewing the world only through your limited experience.. and it is completely biased.
Reservation need not be given to anyone.. let government amend rule to accommodate any citizen who falls into a economic category interms of creating environment for the guy to come up.
Re: SV Sekar illogically ask for 7%reservation,100% is correct
by New York on Apr 02, 2009 10:52 AM
India must have till 85% of all registered marriages in India are INTER-CASTE or INTER-FAITH. This is the only way to STOP India from dis-integrating.
Re: Re: SV Sekar illogically ask for 7%reservation,100% is correc
by deshbhakt on Apr 02, 2009 01:54 PM
Looks like you have a christian missionary conversion agenda here New York. Go polish the shoes of your baptist friends in the US
Varun Gandhi is the future PM of secular and peacefull India. Those who hate Hinduism will pee in the pants after seeing VARUN GANDHI's image. ""Jai Sree Ram""
