Re: Punish them
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 10, 2009 03:32 PM
Completely agree. Unfortunately, in India each and every political party has a vested interest to ensure that rioting remains a crime that goes unpunished.
krrr kt, krrrrr kt...kr.,....kt.... Oh the school bus near Navsaari-gujarat...is on PICNIC and every kid has enjoyed. The teachers liek FATHER JOSEPH, SISTER NANDITA...with their good christianic robes and cross ...looking nice and playing very kindly with the kids....are now worried what happened to the Bus engine! the nice driver Vergees Parmar tries to re-start engine but fail...
So father Joseph says...Ok bacchho ! let us say " SHRI RAJ KI JAI AND START THE ENGINE...it is tried, engine does not start, BOL AMBE MAATA KI JAI ...good driver Vergees tries..but engine does not start...then father asks the kids...
" OK CHILDREN , LET US SAY JESUS KI JAI "...all children say so in corous and..Driver Vergees parmar tries the ignition...and Lo ! the engine starts...all children go home happily and tell to them moms-pops...'mama mama, aaj JESUS KI JAI BOLEY TO ENGINE START HO GAYA...'
these are the tricks used to brainwash our children...and I will not be surprised to find out that great people like Rajeep Sadesa,Roys,Burkha dutts..are prepared in such convent school, so they redicule their own culture and follow a one-sided secularsim. Similarly farmers tractors were repaired with Jesus power AND convert thereafter
there are other tricks too...we know this. Keep the eyes open
Re: Chandamama way of luring school kids nd farmers similarly
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 10, 2009 03:29 PM
Palani, I don't know which school you went to.
I studied at two of this country's best Jesuit Missionary schools.
I am a HINDU, noone, repeat NO ONE ever tried to convert me, in any way.
Re: Re: Chandamama way of luring school kids nd farmers similarly
by mahesh kash on Apr 10, 2009 03:33 PM
Lucky u buddy. In my school every student was given a bible!!!. After people complained they stopped doing this. These buggers know that it is easy to influence children's mind
Re: Re: Re: Chandamama way of luring school kids nd farmers simil
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 10, 2009 03:44 PM
I went to school twenty years ago. Maybe things are changing nowadays.
Just think of a land with H.I.N.D.U.I.S.M. as the official religion and 'STRICT' laws:
All people have to pray in temples. Any worship of any other religion is prohibited. People trying conversions to unofficial religions are summarily executed Women marrying out of their caste, drinking, visiting PUBS are flogged in public.
Is this what we really want?
Is it different from the vision portrayed by most of the messages on this board?
Re: Picture This
by VEENAY KAMTTIKARR on Apr 10, 2009 03:28 PM
you ar spreading poison through your thoughts.
Hinduism was, is and never will be totalitarian religion. The violent reactions of some hindus, again condemnable, is due to the sinister/cunning attempts of the proselytisers.
Re: Re: Picture This
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 10, 2009 03:40 PM
I am not spreading poison, merely holding up a mirror to the veiled poison being spread by some extremists.
You say the 'violent reaction of some hindus, ...'
I disagree with you. Those who rioted, were not Hindus, they are never of any religion. They are merely criminals waiting for an opportunity to settle scores, loot, rape and kill people.
I would not be surprised if there were followers of other religions in the rioting groups, we will never know because in India, riots are not supposed to be investigated and the guilty punished.
I know Hinduism, I know how tolerant it is, today, I cannot think of a wiser and more evolved way of life than Hinduism. Let us not let a bunch of maniacs hijack the larger majority among us.
Re: Re: Picture This
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 10, 2009 03:36 PM
Veera, exactly my thoughts.
I am a HINDU, but till recently never thought of it as a religion, but as a way of life. Of believing in ourselves, our values, of the oneness of God, of God in everything, of respecting our elders, of loving those younger than us, everything.
Good to see these thoughts on this board.
I've travelled both in the US & Europe. Infact, in one of the most conservative religious places in the US, but I never found the people generally intolerant, again, its like our own country, where a bunch of extremists hijack the larger silent community.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Picture This
by Argumentative Indian on Apr 10, 2009 03:41 PM
Agreed. We are a secular country.
BTW, I thought we did swear on the Gita.
In the courts (in the movies, I've never been to a court in real life) also, witnesses swear in on their holy books, usually Hindus, usually Bhagwad Gita.
Someone is consistently asking about proof of Hindu Gods / Goddesses etc.
This is a democracy, I have a right to choose, and I choose to be a H.I.N.D.U., I do not owe an explanation to anyone.
At a slightly more emotional, or even childish level, there is no 'archaeological' (hope I got the spelling right!) evidence, because the Gods live in my heart, and the hearts of millions of others, its that simple.
Take a chill pill, all religions that I know of, have areas that are difficult to prove, thats why they are religions, not physical sciences, SO WHAT?
Re: Proof of Belief - Are you kidding me?
by gomateswara on Apr 10, 2009 03:21 PM
On January 29, 2009, at Bible Mission conference in Guntur in coastal Andhra Pradesh, Chiranjeevi told the Christian audience that he would abolish the G.O. (government order) that banned Christianity preaching in the vicinity of temples. He said he would allow preaching of Christianity in Hindu temples. He is an extraordinary outstanding crook among all the crooked politicians
Was a reaction frm hindu community against the conversions and the killing of swami.These missionaries were trying every other way to insult and humiliate the hindu gods.
Now only one reaction from the hindus have sent everybody running for cover.Remember - Hindus are a tolerant and secular community how ever kandhmal is a welcome signal that such on sense will not be tolerated in future.
Re: What happened in Kandhamal
by gomateswara on Apr 10, 2009 03:18 PM
Pls stop denigrating Hindu gods and forced conversions N we also will come and pray in church
The violence against Christians in Karnataka is a reaction to the aggressive propaganda and mindless evangelism of hundreds of foreign-funded, cultic, fundamentalist, fanatic and revivalist Christian groups spread all over the State and elsewhere. They denigrate Hindu gods and rituals as barbaric. They are the root cause of tension between Christian and Hindu communities. Why should anybody be surprised if the ‘extremists’ among Hindus are offended and react violently? It is high time leaders of the established mainline churches, known for their erudition, equipoise and empathy, came out in the open and disowned such provocative acts of intolerance of the fundamentalist Christian groups masquerading as real Christians. How can the Christian preachers propagate that their faith is the best in the world without reading what the scriptures of other faiths have to say? My anguish is shared by many. One can make a difference without being preachy.
Please respect Hindus sentiments and stop forced conversions
Re: What happened in Kandhamal
by palani murugan on Apr 10, 2009 03:22 PM
All the reports and commentaries on the attacks in Orissa and Karnataka sidestep the original sin of extreme provocation and the consequential long-simmering discontent among the Hindus. Would such scurrilous observations about what is regarded as holy and sacred be tolerated by any community anywhere else in the world? In sum, the secularism as practised in the country is letting it down, besides polarising the population. It is time a body of persons reputed for their objectivity and erudition went into the meaning and implications of secularism and communalism It is a hallowed principle of jurisprudence that justice should be even-handed, and both sides to a dispute must be given a full hearing before conclusions are drawn. The media coverage of the disturbances in both Orissa and Karnataka and the action taken by the Centre are so one-sided as to make any fair-minded person feel extremely worried. Swami Lakshmananda was a revered figure in Orissa who was engaged in service to the weaker and vulnerable sections of the population. Allegedly, the local Christian votaries of conversion saw him as a thorn in their flesh. Satya Darshini, in Kannada language, was circulated in the name of an outfit called the New Life Church, scathingly denigrating Hindu gods and goddesses in the foulest of language. “When the Trinity of Hinduism (Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva) are consumed by lust and anger, how can they liberate others? Their projection as Gods is nothing but a joke. (p
