Re: Well Educated
by NIRMAL BALIA on Apr 08, 2009 09:45 PM
aare all this young politicians are good for nothing anybody who can't speak TRUTH is a coward when it comes to bashing HINDUS these all at forefront but when it is time to tell about misdeeds of minority they have a tala on their lips
Re: kasab trial
by John Travolta on Apr 08, 2009 09:35 PM
BJP had released JeM Chief terrorist Azhar Masood & Omar Shaikh. This act of BJP is still proving to be very costly to the nation. Kasab & Afzal Guru are peanuts in comparison. At least they are in jail. BJP shud be ashamed for this faux pas and stop blaming UPA for kasab & afzal. But BJP leaders are shameless, coward , anti national creatures
Re: Re: Re: kasab trial
by Indian Warrior on Apr 08, 2009 09:51 PM
that time hundreds of indians life were at stake..and that time there was no law like.. no compromise with terr orrists ,
Re: Re: Re: Re: kasab trial
by Indian Warrior on Apr 08, 2009 09:52 PM
that time hundreds of indians life were at stake..and that time there was no law like.. no compromise with terr orrists , that law was brought in to act after this incidence.. BJP's concern for the people trapped inside the flight was correct.. They did the right thing..imagine if your m o m and d a d or br other and si ster was on that flight what would you have done..
But now that no compromise act is in place... we have clear idea..
Neither there is ideology nor Principles (or) Policies with Shiv Sainks. The only agenda with them is reacting 2 everything whatever the sena bosses say & create terror 2 other community people & other state Indians.
Whether it's Bal Thackeray (or) Raj Thackeray (or) Uddhav they think that they R above all politicians & the people & acts like as if they R ruling the entire India & world.
Re: Re: No Ideology with Sena's
by Indian Warrior on Apr 08, 2009 09:55 PM
shiva sena's ideology is good for the people of the land.. people who come from outside they dont respect local culture..they are selfish and they just earn they dont give anything in return.. I have seen this ..when I was in mumbai.. shiva sena has to be there to save marathis.. jai shivaji.. the real courages people alive on the earth are marathis..
Re: Re: Re: No Ideology with Sena's
by Indian Warrior on Apr 08, 2009 09:58 PM
once I went to bengal..there one gym instructor told me how he is proud of maharastrians..when the whole india was under the rule of moghals...Marashrastra was the only place free from this moghals.. thats why it is the greatest land on earth and in india ..and thats why everyone wants to come here.. live here..people from MH feel great..
Re: Re: Re: No Ideology with Sena's
by siddharth on Apr 08, 2009 10:22 PM
remember man is a social animal,lion is not,hand is a human part, bal thackrey looklike u'll find in brucelee movies seems to be a eunoch check & do tell udhav,if guts confirm me mine is real name.
Neither there is ideology nor Principles (or) Policies with Shiv Sainks. The only agenda with them is reacting 2 everything whatever the sena bosses say & create terror 2 other community people & other state Indians.
Whether it's Bal Thackeray (or) Raj Thackeray (or) Uddhav they think that they R above all politicians & the people & acts like as if they R ruling the entire India & world.
Re: No Ideology with Sena's
by Sunil Joshi on Apr 08, 2009 09:37 PM
If u want 2 save india ideology of shivsena is correct otherwisw india will be in the hands of tiliban.
he is pretending to be a saint, just like his chor father. he spends most of his time with his bollywood friends and partying.he's a number 1 bol bacchan like his father.he understands only one language called 'money'. His father murli deora was caught distributing 500 rupee notes 'gandhi' in minority areas 10 years ago.
what has he done for issues of middle class people in girguam,parel,lalbaug,opera house? there are hundreds of dilapidated chawls and issues of mill workers.
Mohan Rawle and his father have looked into the issues of middle class people. Deora is concerned only about the elite people of colaba,churchgate,marine drive.
he must have given arun gawli lots of money to make him back out from the race and extend his support.does he not have any shame in accepting support from a gangster ?
he says gujratis and marwadis will not vote for rawle, that is not true.gujratis these days are ss-bjp supporters.marwadis will vote for deora, because he is a marwadi. gujratis and marwadis do not vote for the same candidate.when gujratis used to vote for jaywantiben mehta,marwadis/rajasthanis used to vote for murli deora.
addition of sena stringholds like parel,lalbaug,worli,shiwdi to south mumbai will bolster sena's chances. only people who can harm sena is bala nandgaokar of MNS who had defeated chagan bhujbal.
Re: Baap Numbri , Beta Dus Numbri
by John Travolta on Apr 08, 2009 08:58 PM
Bheja Fry U are right in your observation on Deora father & son duo. They kno only one language and that is money. And both are top Bol Bachans. But at the same time Mohan Rawale is no saint. What has he done for the mill workers when he was a MP. In fact he only looked after the interest of Arun Gawli becoz it was Gawli who till now has been funding Mohan Rawle's political ambitions.
Re: Baap Numbri , Beta Dus Numbri
by BhejaFry on Apr 08, 2009 08:53 PM
BSP's Mohd. Ali ( chhota shakil's man) and SP''s Farhan Azmi ( Abu Azmi's son,if he files for candidacy) will eat into deora's minority vote bank and will cancel the loss to sena by MNS. Arun gawli's predominantly marathi votes from chinchpoklee may not get transferred to deora.
Re: Re: Baap Numbri , Beta Dus Numbri
by John Travolta on Apr 08, 2009 09:00 PM
Either Congress shud win or BJP. All these SP , BSP, etc shud be wiped out
Re: Re: Re: Baap Numbri , Beta Dus Numbri
by BhejaFry on Apr 08, 2009 09:05 PM
in last elections, the total voter number in this consituency was just 9.5 lakhs and deora won by a slender margin of 10,000 votes, now its the voter strenght is 16 lakhs. 7 lakh voters from sena strongholds of parel ,lalbaug,worli,shiwdee have been added to south mumbai seat. so unless MNS eats too many votes and BSP/SP turn out a flop, Sena should trounce congress in a big way.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Baap Numbri , Beta Dus Numbri
by John Travolta on Apr 08, 2009 09:08 PM
but what abt the constituency that consisted of parel ,lalbaug,worli, shiwdee, etc..... BJP/SS candidate will definitely suffer there...
Millind Deora and his father Murali deora are the pet dogs of Mukesh Ambani. It is only because of Mukesh Ambani's pressue that Murali deora got the petroleum Ministry.
Re: No more deceiving
by BhejaFry on Apr 08, 2009 08:56 PM
meera sanyal is a dummy put up by congress to divert disgruntled elite voters (who earlier voted for deora,but now are unhappy with deora), away from ss-bjp. a vote for her is as good as vote for deora.
Re: Re: No more deceiving
by Naresh on Apr 08, 2009 09:10 PM
Mr. Travolta,,,, just read papers b4 putting ur comments. She's CEO of ..... now u find out. A H
There exists GENEVA CONVENTION ON ETHNIC MINORITIES that India and hundreds of other democratic countries are signatory to.
As per this convention, "Ethnic Minorities Rights can not be taken away even by Democratic Majority Vote process"
In Other words, Special Ethnic Minority Rights are like their Fundamental rights. These rights listed under convention are:
1. Right to En-Bloc voting 2. Right to Minority Education Institutions 3. Right to Personal Laws, traditions and customs
These priviledges can not be subjected to banning even thru parliamentary voting process; which otherwise is the very basis of democratic rule.
We do see healthy application of this concept in India as well. For example, Sikhs have their own parties like Akali Dal. They have SGPC to govern their religious places. They have their own educational institutions like Khalsa College which has Sikh Dominated Management
However, Indiam Muslims have always been denied same rights thanks to COMMUNAL politics of INDIA
Re: Why Sikhs can have Gurudwara Act...and Muslims their Personal
by BhejaFry on Apr 08, 2009 08:50 PM
1.you do resort to en-bloc/en-masse voting,thats why you are in such great demand from all parties
Re: Why Sikhs can have Gurudwara Act...and Muslims their Personal
by TajinderSinghRisem on Apr 08, 2009 09:30 PM
Mr TRUTH SAYER,As per you, you are a very knowledgeble persion.You think to yourself A expert of politics up to GENEVA level.Sir in your expert eyes you see that indian muslims has always been denaid of their rights.sir reading this i think first,their is a urgent need of you to vesit BABA RAMDAV beacouse your brain has infected by AIDS.
Re: Why Sikhs can have Gurudwara Act...and Muslims their Personal
by mounteverest on Apr 08, 2009 09:13 PM
As per UN act Muslims are more than 5% in India & are not classified as Minority. To be classified as Minority the community has to be less than 5%.
Re: Why Sikhs can have Gurudwara Act...and Muslims their Personal
by John Travolta on Apr 08, 2009 09:04 PM
SIKHS are a part of Hinduism..... and yes why shud the Muzlims be accorded a special minority right ? on what basis ? . Minorities in Izlamic countries do not have that right.
It is is the BJP or the Sangh parivar which is clamouring for common civil law for all religions. Their message to people of all religions living in India is 'First be a nationlist, your religion comes second'. It is funny that politicians from from congress whether they are young, sauve and educated that they talk of secular India while pandering to minorities having taken the majority for granted. This is the very party that massaccred the sikhs in New Delhi for some misled sikhs having assassinated Indira Gandhi. Unforntunately the nationalists in the country are being named as communalists and the real communalists are calling them selves secularists. The Congress have redfined the word 'secularism', it means pandering to minorities as if they are guests in this country and they need special treatment.
Re: Common civil law
by truthsayer on Apr 08, 2009 08:36 PM
There exists GENEVA CONVENTION ON ETHNIC MINORITIES that India and hundreds of other democratic countries are signatory to.
As per this convention, "Ethnic Minorities Rights can not be taken away even by Democratic Majority Vote process"
In Other words, Special Ethnic Minority Rights are like their Fundamental rights. These rights listed under convention are:
1. Right to En-Bloc voting 2. Right to Minority Education Institutions 3. Right to Personal Laws, traditions and customs
These priviledges can not be subjected to banning even thru parliamentary voting process; which otherwise is the very basis of democratic rule.
We do see healthy application of this concept in India as well. For example, Sikhs have their own parties like Akali Dal. They have SGPC to govern their religious places. They have their own educational institutions like Khalsa College which has Sikh Dominated Management
However, Indiam Muslims have always been denied same rights thanks to COMMUNAL politics of INDIA
Re: Re: Common civil law
by mounteverest on Apr 08, 2009 09:20 PM
As per UN (GENEVA CONVENTION ON ETHNIC MINORITIES) Muslims cannot be classified as Minority as Muslims constitute more than 5% in India. To be classified as Minority the community has to be less than 5%.
Muslims being classified as Minority in India by Congress is purely Appeasement politics.
Re: Re: Common civil law
by kumar kumar on Apr 08, 2009 08:42 PM
some religion's personal laws are archaic and barbaric. You cannot get rid of your wife by uttering talaq thrice havin enjoyed her. You cannot have guys marry as many women as you want and maintain a harem in these modern days.