The problem with our generation journalists seem to be confusion of profession. The basic of journalism is to make people aware of the facts and incidents and not pronouncing judgement. So it will be interesting to watch, if in your next article you will recommend the choicest punishment for VG.
FIRST OF ALL INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION IS NOT A HINDU CIVILIZATION...
HINDUISM GAINED ITS FORM AND TEXTURE AFTER INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION WHICH IS AROUND 3000 BC, RIGVEDA AND OTHER LATER VEDAS WERE WRITTEN AFTER 2000- 1500 BC. RAM AND MAHABHARATHA HAPPENED AFTER THE VEDIC PERIOD.
HINDU WORD IS BORROWED FROM PERSIAN AND ARABIC VOCABULARY... IT SIMPLY MEANS PEOPLE LIVING BEYOND RIVER INDUS, IT DOESNT CATEGORIZE ANY RELIGION.
MUSLIMS CAME TO INDIA IN 622 A.D. THE WORLDS FOURTH MOSQUE IS SITUATED AT KONDAGALLUR KERALA, WHICH WAS BUILT DURING LIFETIME OF MOHAMMED SAW BY MUSLIM TRADERS.
THE SO CALLED RELIGIOUS GROUP OF HINDUS HARDLY RULED INDIA FOR 600 YEARS OF 3000 YEARS OF HISTORY 1000 YEARS THE BUDHISTS RULED INDIA 1200 YEARS THE MUSLIMS THE BRITISHERS 200 YEARS.
MUSLIMS ALSO INVADED INDIA APART FROM TRADING ROUTES OF KERALA, THE SAME WAY THE ARYANS ALSO INVADED INDUS VALLEY CIVILIZATION AND DROVE THE DRAVIDIANS TO THE PRESENT SOUTH INDIA.
Re: Hindu Lies
by Prashant Singh on Apr 08, 2009 12:48 PM
Seems to very realistic. By the way, which moolla taught you this lesson. Ask him unnecassarily not to divert innocent guys like you, rather teach something significant.
Search more about the facts, you are completely wrong.
Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Atul Neogi on Apr 08, 2009 05:39 PM
These are 'views' of a pseudo intelligent nobel laurate (the same award which ignored Gandhi). Opinions are like a55holes - everyone has one
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Amir on Apr 09, 2009 12:23 PM
you are self centric saffron hindu guy... you will not stop at any proof.. until you win....
Re: Hindu Lies
by swapnakant samal on Apr 08, 2009 01:10 PM
You should know that the histroy what we read is an all pleasing version. the problem with all of us is that we quickly start pointing out errors. lets look inward first.
Re: Hindu Lies
by Rationalist on Apr 08, 2009 12:41 PM
It is only a theory that Aryans never invaided India. There is no supporting events or doucmentary evidence like we have of Islamic invasion. It was created by Britishes to justify their annexation of subcontinent and to divide the Indian society.
Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Amir on Apr 08, 2009 02:27 PM
yeah the hindu word itself is borrowed from arabic vocabulary... refer any of your books there is no such word as hindu in your vedas, ramayana, mahabharatha... when you refer your hindu centric mind would be enlighteneed to the truth thats islam.
Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Arvind Londhe on Apr 08, 2009 04:24 PM
Amir, do you know: 1] who were there before Mohd.Paigambar & the Islamic Hizri Calander? 2]who were there before Yeshu Chriest & the B.C. known year Calander?
3]who were there before even any Social Reformer like H'Ble Bhagwan Budhdha, or Mahavir Swami or any known Calander Hero?
Amir, every body has fore-fathers known as followers of Sanatan Vaidik Dharma, and you know for "Dharma" there is no suitable alternative word or existance. Think deeply, we are all sons of only one "Sanatan Satya" i.e. "Satchidanand Ghana Parmatma" who is the Master of all including Yeshu, Mohd. Paigambar, Mahavir Swami, Shankaracharya and whosover known or unknown. Be polite but brave to accept the truth.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Amir on Apr 08, 2009 07:49 PM
you accept there was no word such as hindu earlier to 17th century... if you have show me... if you cant show me... tell me you are using the word what muslims used to call you.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Arvind Londhe on Apr 13, 2009 12:19 PM
you proved yourself who is nerd, simply overlooking the words or acting as if nothing has happened? Where lies 17th century, 1st try to read the matter, if you can not go through properly you accepting whole hearted the facts & figures I put, understood you nerd?
Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Mahavir on Apr 12, 2009 11:13 PM
Amir, Pl. get out from Madarsa and educate yourself. Read something other than Koran and Hadiths. The word 'Hindu' is not an Arabic word. The Persian ( Iran) people used to address people from Indian subcontinent - as Hindu ( Sindhu) ie peole from Sindhu valley civilisation. There is nothing Arabic about it. The word 'Hindu' indicates a clulture,civilisation and a Race and not a RELEGION.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Amir on Apr 15, 2009 11:18 AM
Exactly... then why do you use a word used by other people to call you... you dont have a word for yourself to be called... you dont have a name for yourself.... imagine that... you are posing with a word used by persian or arabic... whoever it is muslims or christians or anybody... but you are using the word given by them.... shame shame...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Arvind Londhe on Apr 15, 2009 01:58 PM
Amir, why are you that you are hiding the inner voice on my brotherly suggestions regarding our fore-fathers before any calender Hero or reformer clarified in my message dt. 08.04.2009. If not hiding, thanks for accepting the truth & please put off the ugly imaginations & thoughts dividing sons of the true & only GOD i.e. "Satchidanandghana Paramatma". Try to held creating a new society free from 1) any religious fight (ofcourse religious fight does not mean "Dharma Yudhdha" because all are sons of one GOD only); 2) Hunger; 3)Ill-healths; 4) Power games; 5)un-educated single/society; 6)Jealousy; 7)Nerds;8)Prides and whatsoever truely called BAD Habbits/thoughts. LET US LOVE EACH OTHER FOR EVER. ARVIND
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hindu Lies
by Amir on Apr 28, 2009 12:35 PM
Only that allah will guide us to the life you and me are talking, we may have few friends who support our view and we will definitely crores who wont go with us and bent to oppose us. But ultimately everyone will only listen to that one almighty that is allah subhanawatala (parmatma) the only who has creates all of us, and divided us into nations and tribes only so that we can identify each other, but not to fight each other. Lets declare that there is only one Allah and there is no one but him who is the almighty.
Sanjay Gandhi reborn in BJP? Hope it turns out true Mr.Praful. India was always missing Sanjay after his death. May Varun finish the unfinished task of his father. Go Varun. People of India will give you the power to acheive our goal. Wish the worst dreams of Seculaists(psuedo) come true.
The sterilisation was tried to address the problem of over-population and that was done in some chosen over-populated areas irrespective of religious or ethnic identity. The author has tried to provoke the community sentiment by writing his interpretation of facts which is untrue. This kind of article carries wrong msg and enhances the conflicts between the communities
Re: wrong interpretation
by Rationalist on Apr 08, 2009 11:54 AM
Worse he talks about human rights.Are human rights different for different religions. When H1nduz are adopting family planning & trying to control population, why mozlems do'nt want to do that? What's human rights got to do with that? IF they think it is against Izlam to follow family planning, let them go to an Izlamic country. Why they want a Secular country? TOmmorow they may say convering non-beleivers is also human right as per Izlam & since this is a Secular country they must be allowed to practice what is said in their holy book freely.
Re: Re: wrong interpretation
by Rationalist on Apr 08, 2009 11:55 AM
They are not following family planning bcos they have agenda of out numbering non-beleivers & forcing the non-beleivers to convert to Izlam.
Re: Re: wrong interpretation
by Amir on Apr 08, 2009 02:29 PM
the biggest joke about hindus is that they do family planning... this guy is only aware or urban india... they are not bothered about rural india.
this is biggest joke because because of hindu family planning is india the no.1 in population when compared to the whole wide world. It is more densely populated than china and other populated countries due to hindu family planning.
Re: wrong interpretation
by ashu on Apr 08, 2009 11:43 AM
correctly said. the author seems to be narrow minded and left/congress oriented. while citing so many examples against Varun And Sanjay ji, he couldn't mention the hate speech of lalu(roller crash).he also supports the views of mayawati, a very unsocial leader who gives more importance to gaurd the statues of herself n Ambedkar than actually working for the goodwill of Dalits.
Re: Re: wrong interpretation
by Amir on Apr 08, 2009 07:45 PM
it was against a individual culprit... not a community like in case of varun gadhi.... he said about cutting muslims throats... which is heinous and barbaric and highly communal statement..
lalu said it again varun gadhi... which he and varun gandhi should sort out not you and me...
Re: have you casted you vote at indianexitpoll dot com
by Fu Jian on Apr 08, 2009 11:23 AM
Pros of Communism: You don't have to worry about money Same standard for everyone high growth rate in your country(stalins regime 1948-1955 had 20% growth) Lots of occupations such as SEO worker, taxpeople, bank-mans wont be needed Unemployment = 0%
India needs a change . So, for a better,united,progressive and peaceful India vote out BJP and Congress and give a chance to CPI(M)
Re: Re: have you casted you vote at indianexitpoll dot com
by sudipta dutta on Apr 08, 2009 01:25 PM
haan, thats why employment rate is sooo high in west bangal...and all educated bangali'e prefer to move out of bengal for better job and life
Re: have you casted you vote at indianexitpoll dot com
by Gabbar Sinngh on Apr 08, 2009 10:36 AM
Varun using goon power? Why are you lying Praful ?Praful you likking a55 of Co ngress
Re: Re: have you casted you vote at indianexitpoll dot com
by deep dar on Apr 08, 2009 11:04 AM
praful bidwai, please stop spreading lies! all patriots love BJP and Varun!
Re: Re: Re: have you casted you vote at indianexitpoll dot com
by Amir on Apr 08, 2009 02:34 PM
thats what patriotism means to BJP and varun killing muslims and crushing muslims.
If thats patriotism, allah only will know where this country goes in future.
Re: varun gandhi
by Atanu Chatterjee on Apr 08, 2009 11:14 AM
thats right. no reason to justify what varun gandhi has done and should be unscribed. But i just heard some similar speeches in tv yesterday only, one by amar singh regarding babri masjid and another by lalu about varun gandhi. Also it doesnt go down well when advani says MMS is weak PM or sonia gandhi is a foreigner and therefore cant be PM of india.
if he really beleived that high population growth rate was only due to the Muslims !
A growth rate of 3.2 % by the Muslim community in India comprising about 10 crores in the 1970s was in effect, only marginally more foreboding than the 2.9 % growth showed by the non-muslim community that comprised a whopping 60 crores (6 times the muslim population - all figures and extrapolations derived from census 1971) !!
Sanjay Gandhi - if he truly beleived that population control was very important and could be achieved by measures such as the ones he took - ought to have gone truly wild with his 'scissors' among the people without pausing at all to note the religious identity of his subjects ! And he should have done this in a very spectacular way chiefly in the northern belt (where hindu and muslim families were almost equally and prodigiously productive in the matter of population growth) !!!
Re: Sanjay Gandhi must have been well and truly dumb
by Vidisha on Apr 08, 2009 10:32 AM
Is it? The Northern belt is like that? If that's the truth H1ndus should be sterilised too.
Re: Sanjay Gandhi must have been well and truly dumb
by Gabbar Sinngh on Apr 08, 2009 10:33 AM
Sanjay Gandhi tried population control on all citizens. Mus lims who were not even 12 % at the time of partition have now become 20%. What do you want it to make-Afghanistan? Lebanan? Algeria? Articles like these are just to blame everything on Varun and his father. Praful is a bas tard
Re: Sanjay Gandhi must have been well and truly dumb
by Atanu Chatterjee on Apr 08, 2009 11:10 AM
The sterilisation was tried to address the problem of over-population and that was done with over-populated areas irrespective of religious or ethnic identity. The author has tried to provoke the community sentiment by writing his interpretation of facts which is untrue. This kind of article carries wrong msg and enhances the conflicts between the communities
Re: Re: Re: Varun Gandhi
by Jiggs on Apr 08, 2009 10:39 AM
Vidisha... Congress supporters have cracked up so much, that to protect Raul they are calling him gay. Gd Mrng...Lady....
Varun arrested for his speech against minorities--OK What about the christian converters who demonise hindu rituals and gods--Does they have guts to arrest them. What sbout mullahs raising fatwas and imposing shariat against women ,,,,, show some guts ,
