the data is wrong. what about 4-0 loss in England ? Also Dada played gainst greatest Aussie Teams. Dhoni lost 4-0 against the weakest Aussie team in the decade.
Re: dhoni-Gangly -better captain
by sanjay on Feb 28, 2013 09:28 AM
The data is right.. May Bengali have different data of their own tests won 320 runs won 1st v Australia Mohali 17 Oct 2008 Test # 1889 won 172 runs won 1st v Australia Nagpur 6 Nov 2008 Test # 1892 won 1 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Mohali 1 Oct 2010 Test # 1972 won 7 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Bangalore 9 Oct 2010 Test # 1973 lost 122 runs lost 2nd v Australia Melbourne 26 Dec 2011 Test # 2025 lost inns & 68 runs on 1st v Australia Sydney 3 Jan 2012 Test # 2027 lost inns & 37 runs lost 1st v Australia Perth 13 Jan 2012 Test # 2029 won 8 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Chennai 22 Feb 2013 Test #
Re: Re: dhoni-Gangly -better captain
by Opinionated Man on Feb 28, 2013 09:35 AM
India lost 4- 0 to England, and here it shows DHoni has 2 losses againt England..
Re: dhoni-Gangly -better captain
by Aam Aadmi on Feb 28, 2013 09:36 AM
stats vs australia are correct rajiv. last match was captained by Sehwag. 2 matches won and 6 matches lost against England. They are swapped. But yes, India lost against the weakest Aussie team. In the Melbourne match the batting as usual collapsed after a good partnership between Sachin/Dravid. 2nd innings we could have been chasing a lesser target if the field was not set in a defensive mode. A win in Melbourne could have done much to gain confidence, but sadly it went the other way.
Re: rediff is piad media data is wrong
by sanjay on Feb 28, 2013 09:30 AM
The data is right.. May Bengali have different tests won 320 runs won 1st v Australia Mohali 17 Oct 2008 Test # 1889 won 172 runs won 1st v Australia Nagpur 6 Nov 2008 Test # 1892 won 1 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Mohali 1 Oct 2010 Test # 1972 won 7 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Bangalore 9 Oct 2010 Test # 1973 lost 122 runs lost 2nd v Australia Melbourne 26 Dec 2011 Test # 2025 lost inns & 68 runs on 1st v Australia Sydney 3 Jan 2012 Test # 2027 lost inns & 37 runs lost 1st v Australia Perth 13 Jan 2012 Test # 2029 won 8 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Chennai 22 Feb 2013 Test #
Re: rediff is piad media data is wrong
by sanjay on Feb 28, 2013 09:30 AM
The data is right.. May Bengali have different tests won 320 runs won 1st v Australia Mohali 17 Oct 2008 Test # 1889 won 172 runs won 1st v Australia Nagpur 6 Nov 2008 Test # 1892 won 1 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Mohali 1 Oct 2010 Test # 1972 won 7 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Bangalore 9 Oct 2010 Test # 1973 lost 122 runs lost 2nd v Australia Melbourne 26 Dec 2011 Test # 2025 lost inns & 68 runs on 1st v Australia Sydney 3 Jan 2012 Test # 2027 lost inns & 37 runs lost 1st v Australia Perth 13 Jan 2012 Test # 2029 won 8 wickets lost 2nd v Australia Chennai 22 Feb 2013 Test #
Ganguly created a team. Put fire in the bellies of the players. Ignited passion and brought some pride and self respect to the team. Dhoni was just lucky to carry it forward. Yes he is good that he was able to carry it forward but it would have been impossible for him to do what Ganguly did.
Re: Always and forever Ganguly hands down.
by Harsh Mehta on Feb 28, 2013 05:00 AM
Arun,
Ganguly was a great captain.
But, you cannot say that Ganguly created the team and Dhoni is carrying it forward... Dhoni won a T20 World Cup with a completely fresh team... Dhoni is a great captain too. No Indian captain has won 2 world cups.
Re: Always and forever Ganguly hands down.
by Sunil Vaidya on Feb 28, 2013 08:45 AM
azhar india's first really successful captain created the team of laxman dravid sachin ganguly himself kumble bhajji etc... ganguly was just lucky that he got this team and reaped the fruits...
Re: Re: Always and forever Ganguly hands down.
by Jahnavi on Feb 28, 2013 11:41 AM
Sunil leave thease SG fans they are writing comments in frustration because of MSD's Success.
Its strange statistics. India lost to england in all 4 matches in the the england tour 2011, all under Dhoni. But according to the list he has lost altogether 2 against england
Re: vs England
by Manoj Menon on Feb 28, 2013 02:40 AM
Clearly misleading and table doesnt match with the text. According to Cricinfo Dhoni’s stats is 44-21 won-12 lost-11 draw
I would not compare Ganguly with any other Indian captain. He is the best captain India can ever produce.
He had gigantic teams as opponents; Australia(the BEST CRICKET team in the history of the game), South Africa, England, Sri Lanka, West Indies and Pakistan. After Tendulkar left captaincy, it was handed over to Dada. Dada built a team which forced team India to the top ranks. It was done so strategically(keeping a great Indian team) that Dhoni or the future captains would reap the fruits. Ganguly is a Legendary captain and Dhoni is a good captain. There is no comparison.
Re: Comparison between apples and oranges
by madhur goyal on Feb 28, 2013 02:30 AM
agreed, he was instrumental in building the team in a great winning unit while Dhoni was till now playing with established veterans and experienced players and won against Australian team lacking likes of Ponting, McGrath and Warne. Ganguly is so far the best captain
Re: Comparison between apples and oranges
by ASHISH KUMAR on Feb 28, 2013 10:29 PM
only idiotic fools in india think that captain brings any cup. If captain has potential to bring cup, then how after winning 1st T-20 wcup, India out in 1st round of next 3 consecutive t-20 wcups loosing all matches under same captain. Its no. & form of match winner players, quality of opposition & pitch conditions which decide any match & not captaincy
I think both are good enough to be called good captains. The only person who lacked captainship calibre is TENDULKAR, with all his recordshecould not be a good captain because he was always for records
Re: DHONI
by ASHISH KUMAR on Feb 28, 2013 10:29 PM
only idiotic fools in india think that captain brings any cup. If captain has potential to bring cup, then how after winning 1st T-20 wcup, India out in 1st round of next 3 consecutive t-20 wcups loosing all matches under same captain. Its no. & form of match winner players, quality of opposition & pitch conditions which decide any match & not captaincy
