he gave preference to team first then to his personal glory. he was asked to open in tests, keep wkts in odis, but he never complained. unlike others. there r many in team who wants to open in odi but hate to open in tests. n ppl know abt them who r record hungry.
although dravid cant b replaced, dravid's capability of playing long innings n with technique lies with pujara. he is the only one who comes into mind to replace dravid. yes, kohli is also good but pujara is better than kohli n more talented. pujara looks better than kohli, to replace dravid.
Re: Re: salute dravid. he cant b replaced, but pujara looks next
by vinay on Mar 10, 2012 09:27 PM
pujara has been injured n due to his fitness is out of team. else he has been very good in the limited chances he has got unlike many others like rohit who hv been fialure inspite of so many chances.
Why there is no comment from Dhoni on Dravid so far. I am really surprised. Was he waiting for this moment disperately?. Very very bad sportmanship.!!!!!
Re: The jelousy is clear
by ROHIT SHARMA on Mar 10, 2012 08:38 PM
Why are u waiting 4 dhoni's comment even sehwag,gambhir,ganguly,laxman has also not commented
last year dravid was highest run getter today board asked him to retire. what about dhoni he is not holding properly still playing test cricket board want these kind of player. look at sachin and laxman record for last 1 year board never take any steps to pull them out from cricket what about zaheer the most injured man in indian cricket if he not get wicket next match he will take rest by saying hamstring etc he never bold full quota of his spell all the politics board are looking. dravid never get his due credit when ever opener failed ask him to open the innings whe ever keeper injuered asked him to keep the wicket why they never asked sachin to open the innings this shows the ability of the player
Re: riterment
by vinay on Mar 10, 2012 07:17 PM
100% agreed. dravid was the selfless player. he gave preference to team first then to his personal glory. he was asked to open in tests, keep wkts in odis, but he never complained. unlike others. there r many in team who wants to open in odi but hate to open in tests. n ppl know abt them who r record hungry.
there are numerous ex cricketers and useless non played cricket fans were against the great like DRAVID , TENDULKAR , LAXMAN , GANGULY , SEHWAG, KUMBLE who brought lot of acclodes and money to the indian cricket . There were hardly any senior cricketers who brought glory to indian cricket in all forms of cricket
No doubt kapil won the world cup for india and the most dedicated cricketer ever born in india but they were never consistent than the above players.
forget sunil gavaskar he only played for himself and ravi shastri is a good observer and commentator of cricket
ALL KUDOS TO DRAVID TENDULKAR LAXMAN GANGULY SEHWAG AND KUMBLE
ALL THESE CRICKETERS WOULD HAVE RETIRED LONG TIME BACK BUT OUR BCCI WILL LOSE HUGE REVENUE IF ALL OF THEM RETIRES AT ONE TIME
Dravid is possibly the last cricketer who played the Gentleman's game. Always soft spoken and polished, never one to let loose with his mouth.
When he was Captain for the 2007 World Cup, pretty much any other human being would have spoken out against all the groupism and politics that hurt India's chances in that WC. But Dravid, ever the gentleman kept quiet, and did not utter a single word even when he lost the captaincy.
At a time when India was finding it difficult to attain proper team balance, Dravid donned the keeping gloves, and did a fairly competent job. This allowed India to play an extra bowler, helping them reach the finals!
Of the Fabulous 3, Dravid and Laxman always come off as team players, and always put team cause above personal glory. Tendulkar on the other hand has been notorious for chasing personal milestones.
Another reason I prefer Dravid and Laxman over Tendulkar is how they were extremely dignified not just on cricket field, but off the field as well. Somehow, seeing the number of ads done by Tendulkar, one gets the feeling Tendlya is kind of like SRK when SRK was building is dream house Mannat - ready to dance at anyone's wedding if the money was good.
Compared to Dravid, someone like Tendulkar is pathetic when it comes to technique. For a top player, it is ridiculous how often Tendulkar gets bowled through the gate. I am not sure why he has not been able to fix this weakness, it has persisted from his first days to now.
Re: True greatness
by two paisa on Mar 10, 2012 05:03 PM
When it was time to hang up his boots, Dravid was dignity personified. He did not want to hang around and wait till people started asking "Why don't you quit?".
Tendulkar on the other hand has cheapened himself immensely. A time will come when people will discount Tendulkar's record - saying that anyone who plays for so long is bound to finish with a lot of records! Already there is a chorus of criticism against how Tendulkar plays for the record books than for the team.
There is one major difference between Dravid and Tendulkar - when the chips are down, and India desperately needs these batsman to click, invariably Tendulkar fails, and more likely than not Dravid clicks - or at least makes a valiant effort. When confronted by this fact, Tendulkar fans immediately talk about the Desert Storm innings in 1998. Come on - in a career spanning over 20 years, and having so many personal milestones, how come there are just a handful of instances where Tendulkar has saved India, or has won the match for India?
Look at Dravid and Laxman - despite having personal records nowhere near what Tendulkar has, both these batsman have had several games where they won the match for India from a pretty dicey situation. Or at least fought back credibly.
Throughout the nineties, Tendulkar was chasing personal records, and always saying stuff like "What can one batsman do, when everyone else is failing?". Then Dravid and Laxman showed us what one determined man can
Re: True greatness
by two paisa on Mar 10, 2012 05:13 PM
The main reason against the Fab 3 quitting, is that a young team might not be able to handle seasoned opposition like Australia.
But if India is going to lose matches in such a one-sided way - that too by an innings, how does it matter if we had a young team or an experienced team?
At least youngsters would be able to learn something on the tour which would make it worthwhile for their future careers. What exactly did Tendulkar acheive for himself on this tour, and what did he acheive for India on this tour?
The only thing he did was try desperately for his 100th hundred - and did not manage to get it. And deprived some capable youngsters of a place in the team.
If we are preparing for 2015 WC, Indian selectors must take a call - is Tendulkar part of our plans for the 2015 WC? If not, why exactly are we still playing him in the ODI team? Is he capable of staying there for 20-30 overs at least and playing the anchor role - allowing other batsman to attack from the opposite end? If he is getting out so early, so cheaply, so often, what exactly is his value in the team? And the lesser said about his fielding, the better. The guy cannot dive to save himself from a run out - why will he dive to save a boundary!
But we can't blame Tendulkar - he is a product of the 80's way of playing cricket. Back then no one used to dive. He is just continuing to play in that same way he learnt cricket 25 years back. What can he do if the game changed so much over the years?
Re: True greatness
by two paisa on Mar 10, 2012 05:13 PM
The main reason against the Fab 3 quitting, is that a young team might not be able to handle seasoned opposition like Australia.
But if India is going to lose matches in such a one-sided way - that too by an innings, how does it matter if we had a young team or an experienced team?
At least youngsters would be able to learn something on the tour which would make it worthwhile for their future careers. What exactly did Tendulkar acheive for himself on this tour, and what did he acheive for India on this tour?
The only thing he did was try desperately for his 100th hundred - and did not manage to get it. And deprived some capable youngsters of a place in the team.
If we are preparing for 2015 WC, Indian selectors must take a call - is Tendulkar part of our plans for the 2015 WC? If not, why exactly are we still playing him in the ODI team? Is he capable of staying there for 20-30 overs at least and playing the anchor role - allowing other batsman to attack from the opposite end? If he is getting out so early, so cheaply, so often, what exactly is his value in the team? And the lesser said about his fielding, the better. The guy cannot dive to save himself from a run out - why will he dive to save a boundary!
But we can't blame Tendulkar - he is a product of the 80's way of playing cricket. Back then no one used to dive. He is just continuing to play in that same way he learnt cricket 25 years back. What can he do if the game changed so much over the years?
Re: True greatness
by skanda acharya on Mar 10, 2012 05:16 PM
Problem with Sachin is not because of his selfishness but his indecisiveness. It has happened many times when he is in top form he has rested many matches. If he had not rested after World Cup when he was in top form & had gone to West Indies tour or before going to Australia had he played one dayers against West Indies, he would have had chance to score that impending century in one of those & that would have freed his mind & he would have played well in Australia.
Re: Re: True greatness
by skanda acharya on Mar 10, 2012 05:20 PM
Atleast one hopes that he completes that impending century in one of the league matches in Asia Cup & help India win the final of Asia Cup. The two achivements he is yet to accomplish & retire after this series.
Re: Re: Re: True greatness
by two paisa on Mar 10, 2012 05:52 PM
Well - who asks him to play till he needs a walking stick? When he is so old, obviously he wants to take rest!
I hope when Tendulkar scores his 100th hundred, at least one of the foreign commentators will make a remark like "Now that Tendulkar has his milestone, wonder when he is going to quit?" or something like that.
It will be a fitting snub to how selfish this guy has played his career.
Too much to expect the Indian commentators to say things like this!
Re: Re: Re: Re: True greatness
by skanda acharya on Mar 10, 2012 06:28 PM
Dont worry, you will not see him play atleast in next year. That's the maximum limit. But if he has any little dignity left in him he should immediately retire from one day cricket after Asia Cup & Test Cricket after Australia come to India later this year.
Re: True greatness
by vinay on Mar 10, 2012 07:20 PM
dravid was the selfless player. he gave preference to team first then to his personal glory. he was asked to open in tests, keep wkts in odis, but he never complained. unlike others. there r many in team who wants to open in odi but hate to open in tests. n ppl know abt them who r record hungry.
Re: True greatness
by Chris on Mar 11, 2012 10:33 PM
One bad series in Australia and Dravid decides to retire! Never mind the last series in England where he scored well. Never mind the centuries he scored against Windies at home. That is dignity! and when he leaves, grown men have had a tear in their eye. even Srinivasan seemed to have a lump in his throat while speaking. Dravid is dignity personified.
Still we should not bash Tendulkar and his immense achievements. Each person has a different perception of when he should retire. Let us see how long Tendulkar plays till he calls it a day!He has earned that right till his mahashatak! After that the knives will be out from everyone.
