Don't think that I have been unlucky, says Ishant

Re: Ishant Sharma by SRT Fan on Jan 25, 2012 06:18 PM when has indian cricket produced top quality pace bowlers who can intimidate opposition???????????/    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by Jiju on Jan 25, 2012 06:35 PM The "good" bowlers I can remember from around 2 decades are Kapil Dev, Srinath & Zaheer (but none could consistently intimidate the opposition)    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by SRT Fan on Jan 25, 2012 06:38 PM Jiju: tell me honestly. can u compare the above 3 u mentioned to someone like Curtly Ambrose, Walsh, McGrath, Marshall, Holding, Lillee, Thompson, Akram, Younis etc...    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by Jiju on Jan 25, 2012 06:56 PM SRTFan, as I told, they are just "good" bowlers and not quite intimidating. From 2 decades, we have seen only 3 "good" bowlers. Thats really unfortunate.    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by SRT Fan on Jan 25, 2012 07:02 PM good bowlers can't win matches frequently on overseas soil.. What u need is 50 percent good and 50 percent intimidation... What is a fast bowler if he cannot invoke fear in the minds of batsman.... Just look how aussies tamely surrendered to Curtly Ambrose on their own soil.... I remember once waugh brothers saying curtly is 6'7" and when he approaches the landing area the ball is delivered from a height of more than 12 feet. That's really frightening to even think of.. I do not know how batsmen of his era faced this giant... forget indian bowlers (who r never known for any quality). do we have a bowler of that calibre in world cricket today... I doubt... There r steyns, morkels etc but none of them are even 5 percent of what ambrose was in his hey days. he was a terr0r on the field.... I do not think India can ever produce such a bowler bcoz we do not have it in our genes to have that kind of a physique 2b a intimidating pace bowler.. Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by Jiju on Jan 25, 2012 07:05 PM Rightly said SRTFAN..... On one end, Ambrose with his terror unleashing, the other end with Walsh. They were the last Quality bowlers I remember. Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by Jay on Jan 25, 2012 06:59 PM You have not seen Kapil, I am sure! Otherwise you will never write like that! Kapil was a medium pace bowler who relied on swing and accuracy, rather than pace. If we had Kapil or somebody copied what he had done in Aus even in his last series there in 1991, we would have won this series in spite of batting failures!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by SRT Fan on Jan 25, 2012 07:06 PM jay: i am not saying kapil is a bad bowler... he is still india's best pace bowler... what I am saying is he cannot be compared to the ones I have mentioned... they r a different class together and unless and until india produce those kind of pacers it will always be difficult for us to win games away against quality opposition.. Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by Jay on Jan 25, 2012 07:05 PM And, can any of the bowlers you mentioned ever bowl 31 overs from one end throughut an innings like Kapil did in the Ahmedabad in 1983? Never, so never try to cmpare our legendary allrounder with these great fast bowlers just in terms of speed!    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by SRT Fan on Jan 25, 2012 07:08 PM hahahaha.. jay,they never needed to bowl 31 overs.... during his hey days, ambrose used to pick 5 wickets within 12-13 overs... Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by Jay on Jan 25, 2012 07:18 PM Ambrose would be accurate at best, but was never that lethal in Indian pitches! I don't think you have an idea of what had happened those days! Forget it, come to recent times, Steyn and co were hammered by Sehwag for a triple century in almost a day, and they toiled all day in the sun for a wicket! Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by SRT Fan on Jan 25, 2012 07:26 PM jay: what r speaking of indian pitches.... real test cricket in not in sub-continent, but outside it... Indian pitches were/are/never will be a yardstick for any good cricketer's performance.... Sad that WI cricket has fallen these days, else if they had the talent of 70's and 80's, Australia would not have danced for such a long time... they would have been steamrolled.. and yes that slogger sehwag, who u speak of so endearingly cannot survive couple of overs on real wickets... his triple tons on dustbowls r nothing.. if he has the talent let him do it down under against a watered down aussie attack... if aussies had mcgrath and warne, I bet sehwag would not have seen even double figures in any of the games. Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Ishant Sharma by Jay on Jan 25, 2012 07:38 PM I referred to Indian piches because you were saying they will not need 31 overs to bowl and ridicule a great performance of taking 9 wickets on a difficult pitch singlehandedly from one end! I am talking a different point! The point is we need great bowlers, irrespective of whether they are fast bowlers or will rely on swing and speed variations! Ishant is totally out of place and he lacks the fitness and skill to play Test cricket, at least as seen in this series and in Eng (except the 2nd inn, first Test in Eng)! And the last point, intimidation is not the reason for most of the wickets! Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: These days by vox populi on Jan 25, 2012 05:53 PM armchair experts are plenty    Forward   |   Report abuse
Re: These days by SRT Fan on Jan 25, 2012 06:06 PM Brodo Faggins: u worry about Pak team.... no need to comment on Indian team's performance...    Forward   |   Report abuse

Re: can get varun and try out, wont bring much change by SRT Fan on Jan 25, 2012 06:09 PM bcoz they have their own talent...    Forward   |   Report abuse