It’s not the Seniors or Juniors that is the reason for the failure in Australia & England. It’s because the combined standard of the Aus/Eng players is better than that of India. But our Indian commentators will not agree this. Indians have never been good performers in Australia, SA, NZ etc… At the most, the margins of defeat made the difference between various overseas tours. The main reason is that Indian batsman cannot play more than (140 KMS/Hr fast bowling in India) 135 Kms pace in Bouncy tracks. Also, the Indian team for the last 10 years also cannot handle even spinners like Danish Kaneria, Panesar, even brade Hodge etc.. less to speak about Swann, Muralitharan etc. Since, in the 90’s when even vinod kambli hit Warne, Warne was not considered great. But, in the later stages, Warne too became dificult to handle, but our media & foolish fans will talk only the old 90’s story. Even in Indian pitches, the same Youngistans were not able to play and were only dancing against Kemor Roach’s pace .. Against, bowling speeds of less than 130 KMS/hr, our greats will trash the opposition and against great spinners like Marlon Samuels, Kevin Pieterson, Duminy etc… and Gavaskar, Shastry, Harsha Bhogle, manjrekar, Siddhu etc will continue to sing preaises which will be endorsed/nodded wildely by WASIM AKRAM since his bread and butter is in singing praises for the Indian team. So, the problem with the Indian team is not lack of
Re: FACTS ABOUT YOUNGISTAN & MONGISTHAN-JAI HOOO:
by Srinivasan Renganathan on Feb 23, 2012 04:08 PM
So, the problem with the Indian team is not lack of form or fitness, Unity, Harmony etc etc… Add to Dhoni’s luck evaporating and his captain cool image is boiling, we can see much super perfomances in Australia. To win in ODI matches, particularly in difficult conditions like Australia , the key is in taking singles, rotating the strike and not in hitting mad sixes with cross batted shots. India pitches are suited for these types of shots where even a mishit goes for a six, unlike in Austalia, England, NZ, where only a better technique matters. Since our greats (Youngistans & Mongistans) are grown up in playing in the front foot always due to the easy batting dusty pitches in India, they cannot play in the backfoot in foreign conditions, cannot play the pull shot efficiently, nor can play square of the wicket on both the sides. Also, playing in the V-area with the straight bat is considered technically sound by our experts which wont fetch quick runs in ODI. This is the basic reason for Indian players failure in bouncy tracks.
But, when the same team comes to India, everyone will regain their form immediately and the same team will create many more wonderful records. Remember that the same Sewhag hit 219 in ODI just a few months ago & our youngistans like Koli, Raina, Jajeja, Rohit was considered greatest in the world playing at ease in these tailor made useless batting indian pitches. After all FORM IS TEMPROARY BUT CLASS IS PERMAMENT according to the
Re: Re: FACTS ABOUT YOUNGISTAN & MONGISTHAN-JAI HOOO:
by Ashish Kumar on Feb 23, 2012 05:14 PM
Solution: Let us import players. There are plenty of Desi Boyz in England and Australia.
I am a huge fan for both dhoni & sachin, Both are genies players. By the on going series non of the batsman played the innings together the were separate.Indian Team is separated due to dhonis partiality on senior most players. Even gambir scored two 90 but rohit did not score a single 50s. Kapil or Ganguly cant blame sachin to get retire from his ODI carrier. Age is not a thing for a man to play cricket, if he is good in his fitness then a 50year old man can also play cricket.
Re: india poor performance
by Nature Boy on Feb 23, 2012 04:05 PM
Are you out of your mind?? Sachin is dead slow and killing the time that can be used to groom a young player..
What I fell is Dhoni is playing too much of games.. His thinking somehow is not to win games right but to give exposure to youngsters. But these fail to grab the opportunities given to them. No team rests experienced players to give away opportunities to new ones until the match is not important. Dhoni completely fails here. You have to consistently play these three. On the other hand sacking cannot pick the matches he should constantly keep playing otherwise if he fails in some people are to ready to ask him for retirement although he is still better than other Indian batsmen..... That's the truth...
Re: Haha
by ramakrishnan s on Feb 23, 2012 03:42 PM
I would agree with you that seniors need to be preferred if they had been playing well. But look at their performances objectively without being emotional. You can’t select some one just because he is experienced. It has to be based on form. An experienced player might fail in one or two games, that would be accepted, but he cant play poorly game after game, isn’t it. Again we need to give enough chances to youngsters before you take a call on him. Mind you, sachin too took more than 70 matches before he hit his first ODI ton.
I am a huge fan for both dhoni & sachin, Both are genies players. By the on going series non of the batsman played the innings together the were separate.Indian Team is separated due to dhonis partiality on senior most players. Even gambir scored two 90 but rohit did not score a single 50s. Kapil or Ganguly cant blame sachin to get retire from his ODI carrier. Age is not a thing for a man to play cricket, if he is good in his fitness then a 50year old man can also play cricket.
The main reason why the tour has been a disaster for the Indians is the inability of the batters to adjust to the extra bounce resulting in 'mistiming' of their shots most of the times. Virtually every batter including Sachin has suffered on account of this. Only Virat Kohli and now in the one dayers Gambhir & Dhoni appear to be getting some measure of the wicket and fiery Aussie bowling.Specifically the failure of one dayers, the various reasons could be summarized as :1.For one dayers the 'start ' of the batting and the 'death overs' of the bowling are critical. India fared 'worst’ in both. While the the Top order 'flopped' as never before the team is lacking proper bowling plan or strategy with some 'bizarre' bowling combinations, their use etc.2.Yougsters like Virat K and R Jadeja not applying themselves adequately. Virat K looked to have changed for better initially but gradually he seems to be getting back to his old 'impetuosity' of throwing his wicket repeatedly. Jadeja who looked much improved batsman on his re-entry after the WC looks to be old Jadeja of pre-WC pereid.3.The other youngsters like S Raina and R Sharma are also not able to adjust to the ‘bounce’ and not being able to ‘finish’ the game the way expected of them.4.Bowling failure of course has to do more with the leadership failure with totally inexplicable and bizarre decisions of combination, their use etc.
Sachin Scored in 2011 World Cup 482 of 9 matches. Dhoni Scored 241 of 9 matches. Dhoni Scores: Vs BAN 0, Vs ENG 31, Vs IRE 34, Vs NED 19, Vs SA 12, Vs WEST IND 22, Vs 7, Vs PAK 25, Vs LANKA 91. How he criticise sachin. How he backing Raina who scores only 74 runs in world cup.
