Re: spineless tendulkar
by Power Cut on Nov 21, 2011 03:05 PM
Yes, only "OperationBlueStar" aka "LTTE creator" IndiraG and "BoforsLoafer" and "EarthWillShake WhenBigTreeFalls" RajivG deserve BharatRatna!!!
Re: spineless tendulkar
by Incredible India on Nov 21, 2011 03:05 PM
and suddenly after 15 yr one fine day I wake up and found that my bank balance is NIL; so what should I do; Ok I cant play cricket; I cant do job; ok I can make a controversies so that some TV channels can call me for interview and get paid by them; Ok so what do I do; OK lets dig out past and see if something I can manage;;;;;
Azhar and Ajay Jadeja were involved in match fixing scandals. You can crucify them for anything but not for this.
One must remember that 1996 world cups inaugural ceremony was done at Eden Gardens in Calcutta (as it was known in those days). A huge dias was erected in the centre of ground and the pitch was completely dug up for this. After the ceremony was over, the entire pitch was relaid and India Srilanka semi-final was the first match played on that newly laid out pitch.
Everyone in Indian camp were not sure how the wicket would behave and may even have some devils atleast initially till it settles down in about 50 overs.
So a conscious decision was taken to field first if they won the toss and the same thing was done. And it proved correct when 3 wickets fell in quick succession with the score still in 30s. Only it was in the end the score went up to 251 but it was eminently chaseable.
Indians played the pace part well but the wicket started behaving unbelieably notoriously when spin was introduced. Forget about Muralitharan, even Jayasuriya looked like a Shane Warne and Indians could do nothing.
You may point out that Azhar and Jadeja both got out for ducks after consuming nearly an over each. But you should not blame Jadeja nor Azhar for this. Jadeja was the hero in the previous match with Pakistan and he wanted to win the cup for India and so did Azhar.
Everyone knows the rewards far outweigh any kickbacks from bookies.
Re: KAMBLI's 15 MINUTE FAME! Dont blame Azhar-not for this
by Incredible India on Nov 21, 2011 02:59 PM
I agree I still remember the match; jayasuriya was doing Shane warne; just go and watch the video about how Jadeja got bowled by Jayasuriya; you will see that it was absoulate 25 degree spin from legside; also the pitch was dusty; it was indeed the unexpected pitch to be blamed;
Re: Re: KAMBLI's 15 MINUTE FAME! Dont blame Azhar-not for this
by Indian on Nov 21, 2011 03:22 PM
"And it proved correct when 3 wickets fell in quick succession with the score still in 30s"
I don't agree with this one....as Both Sanath and Kalu got out hitting a ball....they were in offensive mood as through out the tournament....it was neither the bowler nor the pitch which played role.....thr game was simple....hit or out
Indian Team in 90's was heavily dependent on Sachin and the moment he got out the whole team crumbled to pressure....
Eden even now is same pitch which turns a lot so nothing related to the dais which was erected on the pitch...i don't buy this comment... I don't think even any fool will dug up a world famous eden's pitch to erect a dais....
Re: Re: KAMBLI's 15 MINUTE FAME! Dont blame Azhar-not for this
by Indian on Nov 21, 2011 03:22 PM
"And it proved correct when 3 wickets fell in quick succession with the score still in 30s"
I don't agree with this one....as Both Sanath and Kalu got out hitting a ball....they were in offensive mood as through out the tournament....it was neither the bowler nor the pitch which played role.....thr game was simple....hit or out
Indian Team in 90's was heavily dependent on Sachin and the moment he got out the whole team crumbled to pressure....
Eden even now is same pitch which turns a lot so nothing related to the dais which was erected on the pitch...i don't buy this comment... I don't think even any fool will dug up a world famous eden's pitch to erect a dais....
Re: Re: Re: KAMBLI's 15 MINUTE FAME! Dont blame Azhar-not for thi
by RAJAN MHAMAI on Nov 21, 2011 04:47 PM
Sorry, Indian , if you think it was not the bowler who played a role in getting the Lankan openers out, then yu do not understand cricket. The field setting was strange for the openers. And both openers getting out in the exact same way showed some astute captaincy and very good bowling. I am not certain wether Azhar was involved in match fixing. But this match was defenitely not fixed.
Also, when you say the Eden pitch still turns as much as it did that day in 1996, get a reality check.
The only reason why Kambli kept quiet then was that he would lost place quickly from the team.He comes from a very low class family with a drunk father.Kambli has opened his mouth at the right time since,the ICC has gained momentum in crushing the fixing influences of the game.In short striking when the Iron is hot,which is what Kambli has done.He also enjoys some political support, so he stay safe despite opening his mouth.Back in 1996, he probably have been thrown out of the team and maybe more.A kid who travels from Kanjurmarh station to CST in jampacked 2nd class train compartment with a huge cricket kit bag will not let his opportunity go to play at internation level by opening his mouth in such a situation then.Hansie Cronje was murdered, not killed in an air crash, so was Bob Woolmer.Azhar and Ajay Jadeja have been seen in well known South Mumbai Pubs/Discs with bookies.This was the correct time to open his mouth since the ICC is after match fixing like a snoopy dog.Kambli might benefit from this publicity, but I think we should be more interested in seeing culprits like Azhar and Ajay, who made many a cricket fan spend valuable time watching a match in hope that they are playing to win, treated like dogs and kept outside society.
Re: Definitely Fishy
by Incredible India on Nov 21, 2011 03:10 PM
Azhar is any way banned for life; he wont get any other punishment since during those match fixing yrs India didnt have any law for fixing matches; and that is why Azhar was booked under IPC-420 for unfair play; and secondly all the players of Indian team are not a national team they are playing for Club BCCI so they cannot be declare legally wrong or anti-nationalist; Thirdly Kambli is blamming the decision of the toss which all the team member along with team management took decision and that too they could have lost the toss; so this seems to be a out of mind question?
Azharuddin admitted in CBI enquiry that he fixed matches in connivance with Ajay Jadeja, Ajay Sharma, and Nayan Mongia during CBI investigation. BCCI appointed Madhavan Committee also acknowledge this fact that Azharuddin has admitted his guilt of match fixing.
he introduce Mukesh Gupta Punter to Hensi Croney a South African Captain to promote match fixing but he was caught on Delhi Police Audio Tape Recording talking to Mukesh Gupta.
This is enough evidance to fix Azharuddin but he is enjoying Member of Parliament status.
India is nation of foolish people and croocks....Now Digvijay Singh is advocating propoganda for Azharuddin
Re: Azharuddin is Invantor of Match Fixing Hensi Croney was Victi
by Mirza Ahmed on Nov 21, 2011 02:44 PM
I see RSS clad are now forcing Azhar to leave country as they did for Hussain Saheb. See all the comments no body speaks about tendulkar mongia or any other as they have RSS backing. Azhar leave country ASAP. You are brought to ashes without any reason.
Re: Re: Re: Azharuddin is Invantor of Match Fixing Hensi Croney w
by Mirza Ahmed on Nov 21, 2011 07:53 PM
Tendulkar has mothered, Fathered and reiping the benifits of fixing. Always fixed in every match.
Re: Azharuddin is Invantor of Match Fixing Hensi Croney was Victi
by u k on Nov 21, 2011 02:47 PM
Yes,Azhar opened his mouth only when he knew that he is MP now, since India does not mind criminals in the Parliament.
Re: Re: Azharuddin is Invantor of Match Fixing Hensi Croney was V
by Mirza Ahmed on Nov 21, 2011 07:54 PM
If any indian is RSS/Safron like Tendulkar Indian dont mind giving Bharat Ratna also... ha ha ha...
Re: Azharuddin is Invantor of Match Fixing Hensi Croney was Victi
by Incredible India on Nov 21, 2011 03:02 PM
You cannot declare a cricketer as anti-national legally and that is why he was only booked under IPC-420 for doing unfair play; Remember BCCI already made clear legally that the players are playing for BCCI and not for India; so if someone does wrong only BCCI can give them punishment which they did by banning him for life; During Azhar time there was no law under which he could be booked and that is the reason he is set free;
Re: Re: Azharuddin is Invantor of Match Fixing Hensi Croney was V
by Mirza Ahmed on Nov 21, 2011 07:55 PM
Tendulkar has mothered, Fathered and reiping the benifits of fixing. Always fixed in every match
Re: Sharjah match was fixed...when Miandad hit for six
by Kabeer on Nov 21, 2011 02:57 PM
Every idiot says that Chetan Sharma should have bowled a yorker to prevent Miandad from scoring.
Every batsman expects a yorker like Richards did in Oval when Neil Foster bowled a yorker. Richards was expecting it and he moved slightly towards off-side and converted that perfect yorker of Neil Foster into a fulltoss and hit it for six. That was legendary.
Miandad too was expecting a yorker and Chetan Sharma was advised by the greats like Kapil Dev and Sunil Gavaskar who were veterans and who still remember how Richards hit Foster for six asked Chetan to bowl a full toss.
A full toss was the most unexpected ball at that stage. A batsman prepares himself for all kinds of deliveries to hit it for six but do not expect a full toss. So that was a perfect advice from Sunny and Kapil and others and Chetan did nothing wrong.
Even Miandad was not expecting a full toss. But the genius of Miandad adjusted in a fraction of second and hit it for six. May be had it not been required a six to win the match, Miandad would have played towards the ground and would have scored a four.
Dont blame Chetan for that. I am sad that Chetan took all the blame and still suffers from that stigma for no fault of his.
Just praise the genius of Miandad. Thats it.
At that moment Miandad was greater than Richards, for Miandad had only to score a six and nothing less where as Richards was setting a target to England. Richards was under no compulsiont to hit it for six but Miandad was in.
Re: Re: Sharjah match was fixed...when Miandad hit for six
by Incredible India on Nov 21, 2011 03:13 PM
Good now go and see how jayasuriya bowled Jadeja in Eden for the match in question; Comparing only that ball you will consider Jayasuriya as the greatest turner of the ball; he did an absoulate Shane warne style cent perfect; If anybody remember the condition of the pitch then nobody could doubt why we lost the match
Re: Sharjah match was fixed...when Miandad hit for six
by Kabeer on Nov 21, 2011 02:58 PM
Every idiot says that Chetan Sharma should have bowled a yorker to prevent Miandad from scoring.
Every batsman expects a yorker like Richards did in Oval when Neil Foster bowled a yorker. Richards was expecting it and he moved slightly towards off-side and converted that perfect yorker of Neil Foster into a fulltoss and hit it for six. That was legendary.
Miandad too was expecting a yorker and Chetan Sharma was advised by the greats like Kapil Dev and Sunil Gavaskar who were veterans and who still remember how Richards hit Foster for six asked Chetan to bowl a full toss.
A full toss was the most unexpected ball at that stage. A batsman prepares himself for all kinds of deliveries to hit it for six but do not expect a full toss. So that was a perfect advice from Sunny and Kapil and others and Chetan did nothing wrong.
Even Miandad was not expecting a full toss. But the genius of Miandad adjusted in a fraction of second and hit it for six. May be had it not been required a six to win the match, Miandad would have played towards the ground and would have scored a four.
Dont blame Chetan for that. I am sad that Chetan took all the blame and still suffers from that stigma for no fault of his.
Just praise the genius of Miandad. Thats it.
At that moment Miandad was greater than Richards, for Miandad had only to score a six and nothing less where as Richards was setting a target to England. Richards was under no compulsiont to hit it for six but Miandad was in.
