Re: India is NO.1 team.
by Against Pseudos on Jan 06, 2011 08:51 AM
Chirag ForYOU:
With all due respect to your message (which was an excellent one by the way); I see a logical fallacy..
If we win this test we are No. 1 If we draw it, we are the joint No. 1 If we lose, then I agree with you, we need to introspect
P.S.: A "Far ahead of this ranking" label requires a lot more than what we've displayed. Even the so-called (by Indian fans) 3rd rate Aussies defeated South Africa at home last year.
G Gambhir - 12 V Sehwag - 8 R Dravid - 23 SR Tendulkar - 34 VVS Laxman - 49 CA Pujara - 18 MS Dhoni - 24 Harbhajan Singh - 30 Z Khan - 0 I Sharma - 0 S Sreesanth - NOT OUT
Re: INDIA Scoreboard tomorrow
by chirag foryou on Jan 06, 2011 08:48 AM
Mr. Pornistani, Don't be in hurry. We are No.1 team in the world. Either we will win or we will make it draw. No other possibility Just wait and watch.
Re: Re: INDIA Scoreboard tomorrow
by Against Pseudos on Jan 06, 2011 08:53 AM
Chirag ForYOU:
I too am a cricket fan; but I don't agree with you.
First innings with the super solid Sachin we could last for only 117 overs on a much better batting pitch. What makes you think we will repeat the feat for 90 overs on this deathbed?
You can't rule out SA win possiblity. Not by any means.
In fact the only possibilities are India Win; OR SA Win..
10 batsmen can't just hang around on this pitch trying to save this match. Its a do or die situation...
Re: Re: Re: INDIA Scoreboard tomorrow
by B C on Jan 06, 2011 10:48 AM
there is no death bed... if kallis and boucher can bat 60 overs our guys can bat 90 overs anyday
Sachin should not play in second innings at all... He should allow the rest of "SPECIAL" players to play and save this match. He has already done his part on this match. It is upto Shewag/Dravid/Lakshman and Dhoni's job to save this match now.
Re: Re: Not Possible....
by Mahesh Dave on Jan 06, 2011 08:40 AM
Whatever It does not make deference...1st or 2nd (typing mistake).....But Inning defeat was shamefull...
It is time for our Second Innding Sultans to justify their place. First Innings King Sachin proved himself. Now it is upto Dravid and Lakshman to prove themself.
Re: Second innings Sultans!!!
by Gopal on Jan 06, 2011 08:43 AM
that is the way to silence sachin bashers ( Same time no disrespect for second inning Sultans)
Re: Second innings Sultans!!!
by Mahesh Dave on Jan 06, 2011 08:45 AM
Don't say SRT to first Inning king......Say him "no pressure situation king" and "2nd Inning Flop"......
Re: Re: Second innings Sultans!!!
by Against Pseudos on Jan 06, 2011 08:48 AM
Dave Watson:
;-)... nice to know that Laxman can't even perform when there is no pressure... he performs only when there is a win in sight... :)
With no disrespect to Laxman, I detest your portrayal of him as this most selfish player seeking personal glory of "making India win matches"... and when that's not possible; then to not even bother..
And FINALLY, SRT was NOT a second innings flop at Centurion... was he? :)
Re: Second innings Sultans!!!
by chirag foryou on Jan 06, 2011 08:42 AM
Laxman has not required to prove anything. He has save as lots of time. Please check statistics, He is best second inning player in the world.
Re: can he do it
by Gopal on Jan 06, 2011 08:33 AM
suresh Balakrishnan Would you still admit or why are you shy to say it this way? ( Sachin has done it in first innings let us see If Sachin can do it for India again.
Re: Re: can he do it
by Against Pseudos on Jan 06, 2011 08:43 AM
;-)... right.. If Laxman does it once (and only when victory is in sight) he is special. Sachin is special ONLY if he does it twice all over again... :)
Re: Re: can he do it
by Ravi Iyer on Jan 06, 2011 09:06 AM
what 486? all we need is 340. Why reduce by 146? Are we to analyze with and without Sachin all the time? If he's in the team, he has to play well. Same goes for the other 10.
Re: Re: Re: can he do it
by Against Pseudos on Jan 06, 2011 09:12 AM
Ravi Iyer:
;-).... So you want to take his contribution yet treat it like it's trash? :)
Read Balakrishnan's comment on why he will add only Sachin's second innings runs to the Indian total and discard the first innings one as they don't meet his standards... :)
Re: Laxman Will Win Again
by Against Pseudos on Jan 06, 2011 08:13 AM
Shri Chip:
To all those Laxman Saviour club members only one question.
Why doesn't he play cricket instead of "saving" India? If he did that, 90% of the cases the second innings and heroics wouldn't have been needed...
Take this test... If Sachin had scored a duck in first innings; would that have meant the pressure in the first innings was any less? But that would have meant that we would have chased an impossible target of 486 in the second innings.... THEN if Sachin had scored 146 and Laxman whatever you are planning for him; who would you say "shine again"?
You say, Laxman reserves his special for the second innings. Question is Why? And why can't someone else reserve specials for first innings? After all there ARE two innings in test cricket, are there not?
I am just curious about this phenomenon, hence asking... :)
Re: Re: Laxman Will Win Again
by kumar jitendra on Jan 06, 2011 08:19 AM
i guess u r most confused person on this earth so better get up rise and shine
Re: Re: Re: Laxman Will Win Again
by Against Pseudos on Jan 06, 2011 08:26 AM
Kumar Jitendra:
I know that Logic and Rediff forum have nothing whatsoever in common, so its hardly surprising that YOU too believe that Sachin's 146 in the first innings was useless... :)
Keep thinking that way and keep wondering why we don't win more matches; when all we are doing is converting easy win matches into High pressure "India Saviour" type situations... ;-)
Re: Re: Laxman Will Win Again
by Gopal on Jan 06, 2011 08:27 AM
Against Pseudos, You stole my thoughts. If some one scores 50 for India to win the match then it is more Important than the Openers or Upper order batsmens 100. I tell you the reason for that we Indians have very short term memories and we cant remember what was happening on second day and third day of cricket when sachin was fighting through the innings and What happened to VVS ( yet no disrespect to VVS) This arguement is for the people who simply like to find reason to bash sachin.
I don't want Century from SRT or not to win match.....I just want him to play match saving Inning......If he play good like a master......I will stop hating SRT.....otherwise I will tell him airless baloon or pavilon express etc....
Re: Prove yourself......
by Another Critic on Jan 06, 2011 08:15 AM
Who cares what you say. We've come across so many idiots, we will include you in that group.
Re: Re: Prove yourself......
by Mahesh Dave on Jan 06, 2011 08:18 AM
Another Critic....and who cares of "toilet tissue" of SRTingu like you.....Get a life...
dear friends , now you will see the true character of the indian team or so called indians when this type of task has came in the history of cricket india they have generated the famous response 'Fight or Flight' .. & they will choose to flight. yesterday ,the south africa were 65/4 ..& then they scored 341 .. just think why ... because the indian team lack the killing instinct .. just look at the indian innings ..240/3 .. then bundled out at 364.. this is just a lack of killing instinct. their body language shows the defeat before they have been defeated ..this match has only result & that shall be a humiliating defeat for indians.. no body can save them now.
Re: true character of indian team.
by Another Critic on Jan 06, 2011 08:12 AM
SA can't bowl out India in 90 overs even if it is the final day. It's either draw or Indian win. It's India that is holding its cards.
Re: Re: true character of indian team.
by kumar jitendra on Jan 06, 2011 08:21 AM
i will bet my last ruppe if india win, it can only two either SA wins or Draw. Trust me
Re: true character of indian team.
by Gopal on Jan 06, 2011 08:18 AM
I somewhat agree with you, when kallis & boucher were going then dhoni lacked some imagination and stuck with the regular bowlers he should have tried virender sehwag for an over or two ( I understand he has a bad shoulder may be thats why) and he could have tried sachin earlier than he did.