Not in the long run!!!! If you need to be reminded, Gambhir went through a MEGA-SLUMP for close to 2 years too!!! If any other technically sound player like RohitSharma or DineshKarthik would have been given so many chances, India would have been a far more formidable side!!!
Re: @Anurag Rathore - Only output matters
by Anurag Rathore on Aug 02, 2011 11:56 AM
Long run!!! Look at Sehwag, Gambhir, Dhoni who are playing from many years despite their limitations.
Dhoni was number 1 in ODI ranking for more than 2 years. Gambhir was number 1 in test ranking for almost 2 years.
Sehwag has spent almost 12 years in international cricket.
Re: Re: @Anurag Rathore - Only output matters
by Anti Semetic on Aug 02, 2011 11:57 AM
Dont mix Sehwag with uselessDICKheads like Dhoni or Gambhir!!!! All those rankings of the Dhoni's coterie are courtesy playing in Indian pitches and NOT abroad!!! Sehwag can boast of even triple tons abroad but what about the useless Dhongi and his chamchas??!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: @Anurag Rathore - Only output matters
by Anti Semetic on Aug 02, 2011 12:00 PM
Take a look at Dhoni's and Gambhir's abroad performances!!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Anurag Rathore - Only output matters
by Anurag Rathore on Aug 02, 2011 12:01 PM
Here we are talking about technique and long run...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @Anurag Rathore - Only output matters
by Varun on Aug 02, 2011 12:02 PM
They just started their career buddy. Give them time. Do you remember how dravid did in Aus first time around ? For gods sake cut these people some slack and if they repeatedly fail in away series, then yeah something can be done.
Re: @Anurag Rathore - Only output matters
by Anurag Rathore on Aug 02, 2011 11:57 AM
Long run depends on mental toughness of a player rather than skill.
Re: Re: @Anurag Rathore - Only output matters
by Anti Semetic on Aug 02, 2011 11:58 AM
Its a mix of all the factors!!! Even mentally tough Hayden went through a 3 year slump to be finally SACKED!!!
Re: Re: Re: @Anurag Rathore - Only output matters
by Varun on Aug 02, 2011 12:00 PM
But the desire to succeed is the biggest. Mental toughness and temperament are the key factors.
Re: Mr.Rathore
by sunil k on Aug 02, 2011 01:15 PM
footwork...."heart and soul" of batting is footwork....ability to pick line n length...playing around the offstump....that determines the quality of a batsman.....handling newball, fresh pitch on a swinging and seaming track against aquality attack like this is no joke.!!!! most importantly playing for team needs....thats the ultimate quality of a "master playerr".....that's dravid....not sachin....
Re: Re: Mr.Rathore
by Rahul Verma on Aug 02, 2011 11:48 AM
master?? what bakwaas? he is a good player but not a mentally tough and aggresive guy like Sehwag or Hayden.
Re: Mr.Rathore
by Anurag Rathore on Aug 02, 2011 11:45 AM
Yes he is better than master, no doubt about it. But the way Gambhir performed in NZ, Srilanka and SA is remarkable. Dravid just lifted his performance from WI tour.
Re: Re: Mr.Rathore
by Anti Semetic on Aug 02, 2011 11:46 AM
In my opinion, Gambhir is technically unsound to handle pace and bounce. His footwork is pathetic to say the least!!! Most of his success has come in again India. Indians have hardly travelled abroad and thats the reason their true colours are not coming out.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr.Rathore
by Anti Semetic on Aug 02, 2011 11:50 AM
Those are just temporary outbursts and not a consistent feature!!! Have you ever had a look at Gambhir's foot work?? To top it, he doesn't even have the hand-eye co-ordination of Sehwag to overcome that liability!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr.Rathore
by Anti Semetic on Aug 02, 2011 11:53 AM
Not in the long run!!!! If you need to be reminded, Gambhir went through a MEGA-SLUMP for close to 2 years too!!! If any other technically sound player like RohitSharma or DineshKarthik would have been given so many chances, India would have been a far more formidable side!!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr.Rathore
by Varun on Aug 02, 2011 11:53 AM
yes but that does not mean someone would fail. Come on man. Now whether he will do well or fail is to be seen. I agree on that.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mr.Rathore
by Varun on Aug 02, 2011 11:56 AM
I think Gambhir has it in him to succeed. I mean the will. I never expected him to do well in tests considering he pokes at balls around the off. But he demonstrated how to resist that in tests. So i personally think he will do well. But time will tell.
Re: Re: Re: Mr.Rathore
by Anurag Rathore on Aug 02, 2011 11:50 AM
Technichally Dravid is far better than Gambhir. But Gambhir is used to produce output more often.
dhoni is opting feild first after winning the toss ?
No matter there is green grass on the pitch,there is cloud cover But i feel that Dhoni should have opt for bat first as its always very difficult to bat in 4th inning of the test
Re: why
by Len Hutton on Aug 02, 2011 11:46 AM
his decision was right, as England were 6 down at 122,but India is famous for not getting tailenders cheaply out. if they got out with in 160
Re: Even
by Mr Bean on Aug 02, 2011 11:49 AM
plz dont expect anything from our tailenders starting from dhobiji to sreesanth...even dhoni falls under tail ender's category now
Is to remove himself from the team. Dhoni does not deserve to be in the team the way he is playing.. Dhoni can come back in the side after he regains his form. At the moment Dhoni is comletely out of sink both as a batsman and as a captain. Dhoni is tired physically and mentally. People were after Ganguly's neck for far less failures than Dhoni's. BCCI made a huge mistake of bad scheduling. Reminds one of South Africa humiliating Australia 4-0 (1969-70) after they toured South Africa right after they finished India tour in 1969 winning 3-1 without going back to Australia. India should have come back home after West Indies tour at least for a short time. Being away from home for a long time is mentally affecting indian players. This is the reason for such huge losses in both tests.
Re: One trick Dhoni still has
by Varun on Aug 02, 2011 11:41 AM
Well add to that list Sachin and Bhaji and Yuvraj and almost the entire team but Dravid.
Re: Re: Re: One trick Dhoni still has
by divine on Aug 02, 2011 12:22 PM
They have earned more through endorsements than from playing cricket. If in the last two tests days, they would have endorsed few new products, they would have earned few hundred crores rather than sweat it out for a mere few lakhs. Mysore Sandal Soap is endorsed by Dhoni as Karnataka does not have any veterans in any fields including cricket. Let us not waste our time in commenting on these stupids performance. They are Lion only in their soil and can score only against Bangladesh and weak West Indies. balan
