quote by "The Patriot" (a revolutionary intellectual thinker of the 21st century): "the ones who compare will never appreciate the game nor the talent"!!!!!
U should not compare these two for so many reasoons... if u still insist to comapre then it is certainly DON BRADMAN the greatest... even gavaskar and tendulkar would accept..
Re: gb
by dubey patel on Dec 25, 2010 07:17 AM
I am not agree with u as don was the player old times when modern techniques were not used. he would not have averaged this much with the modern tachnology
Its impossible and unfair to compare two greats of different eras.
Sachin is the Modern Don Bradman,
In todays era , its impossible to achieve an average of 99.99 . Moreover , Bradman didnt play in subcontinent pitches , but Sachin has scored all over the world.
Tendulkar because he played in the era where every action, weakness analyzed. But still bowlers can't take him out. He played on almost every type of pitch, every type of bowler, almost against every team.
Theses days are media lobbying as well fixing days. Take the case of black and-white movies era when Jairaj used to do all stunts on his own and now duplcates do it for all,be it so propogated Hero of the century.Stupid are those who clap for such performrs. Indian youth force is so swiftly diverted of problems country today faces by such false bendings,alas a country sinking in curruption,unemployment,joblessness,high inflation nd chatacterlessness and those making huge money piling want to keep mind of country tracked to confined whether to give Bharat-ratna [to crores and crores earners for self and self only]asif this awarding will change future of this ill managed,currupt country.
Theses days are media lobbying as well fixing days. Take the case of black and-white movies era when Jairaj used to do all stunts on his own and now duplcates do it for all,be it so propogated Hero of the century.Stupid are those who clap for such performrs. Indian youth force is so swiftly diverted of problems country today faces by such false bendings,alas a country sinking in curruption,unemployment,joblessness,high inflation nd chatacterlessness and those making huge money piling want to keep mind of country tracked to confined whether to give Bharat-ratna [to crores and crores earners for self and self only]asif this awarding will change future of this ill managed,currupt country.
Rediff is exploiting the mentality of Indians. If anything is said good about India ,Indians even in any context it publishes it so that its website sells. And it is repeated as headlines now and than. Especially if any Non Indian says it ,it is headlines. eg Indi Superpower,greatest economy, Rahul Gandhi best future PM,Sachin best, this best and that best. Stop this nonsense.Other thing do not potray any American with Indian name as Indian even if he is a Us citizen.That way 90 % of all Americans will be British,Irish,German,French etc etc. Stop fooling young readers who crowd the internet stop Rediff please.
Hi everybody ,this Rediff is wasting time. Nobody visits rediff except for the fact if you had made it as your email id 8 to 10 years back and want to continue and 99.9 % are indians. Obviously Indian visitors and 90 % very young who has grown up just knowing Tendulkar,They will vote for Tendulkar 99.9 % of the Time.
I suggest Rediff make it clear that BRADMAN was also Captain of the side unlike Tendulkar who is playing without pressure of leading as an ordinary batsman. This is the most important criteria. If Tendulkar was captain his performance would have been half of what it is and career over long time back. Most of the greatest players retired while leading their sides. So this Poll is unrealistic and do not waste time here.
This is only marketing hype otherwise a career avg. player of 55-56 cannot be placed alongside a career avg. of 99.94.
Bradman played for two decades as has Tendulkar hence the logeveity argument does not hold as well.
Moreover Bradman played in an era of uncovered pitches and in an era when the game was not as batsman oriented as today, without helmets, thigh guards, chest guards and 8 ball overs. Indeed he scored a centruy in the Bodyline series when bouncers without any restrictions were bowled at him with 8 players on the legside. That is the ultimate test by intimidation.
Fans of Bradman too had expectations as he was peerless, something which the Sachin lobby never fails to highlight. another point that is oft repeated is that Bradman's era was a bit easier, but this agian is flawed since if this was the case then Bradman alone would not have had an average of 99 with no batsman in the 80s and indeed the best batsman of any era have been hovering in 50-60 avg. range.
This Sachin hype is a marketing gimmick and an online poll is hardly a barometer to judge the all time greatest.
Indeed Sachin has scored 50 test centuries but it took him an eternity from Bradman's time with his 29 from 52 tests spread over from 1928 -1948.
Sachin is one of the modern greats but his feat would pale in comparison with greats of the past, and his impact upon the Indian teams fortunes perhaps lesser than that of Gavaskar, whose centuries impacted Indian performance more.
Re: Flawed argument
by Chrysanthemum sxaz on Dec 24, 2010 01:38 AM
12 double and 2 triple centuries. Sachin has maybe 5-6 double and no triple. moreover Sachin's 2nd innigs avg. is around 28.
How can he be called an all time greatest with these flaws. Surely if tihs dupe is being forced then this should be explained. actually i saw yesterdya on CNNIBN, the newscaster was referring to Chappell's declaration that Bradman was better as heresy. Such gall is really appaling. As cricket lovers we must be dispassionate in judging individual talent, in discerning individual talent.
I mean no dosrespect to Sachin's achivement, but he has had lesser impact upon India's fortunes than Gavaskar,, Dravid or Laxman, in terms of winning or saving tests.
Re: Re: Flawed argument
by rajratan2323@rediffmail.com on Dec 24, 2010 04:46 AM
I agree with you but actuall Gavaskar as well had very less impact,Tendulkar has higher than Gavaskar. Gundappa Vishwanath had the highest. Whenever he scored well ( not necessarily 100 ,India performed and actually won) Vishwanath scored on difficult pitches better than Gavaskar.It is a known fact.
Re: Re: Re: Flawed argument
by Chrysanthemum sxaz on Dec 24, 2010 05:01 PM
Gavaskar was at one time India's backbone in batting and saved many tests, his sheer endurance took India out of the woods on countless occasions. Besides he faced higher quality of fast bowling than Sachin faces with the west indian bowlers, lillee, thompson, Imran everyone except the mediocre indian attack, and scored maximum centuries agianst the best pace attack 13/34 WI.
