Virat and jedeja, whats the logic of them being in the team. Two dumbheads, virat has proved againg and again that he is no good. We have the patan brothers and nair who are good alrounders and badrinath who fits into Dravids shoes. Pace department was far beeter with Venk Prasad than Kirten. Sreesanth lent some fire to the attack but all the three guy will get wacket in any condition. Shame a second string team defeated us.
Re: Stop Politics in cricket first
by shaikhhamid on Nov 09, 2009 01:12 PM
AS politics and politicians r every where, specially where there is any money, u will find them
if u see the state wise boards heads, u will find many politicians in that post....
Dhoni says the team lacked mental strength and bowlers were not upto the mark ,so why wasn't India's best bowler Sreesanth not included in the team ? Sreesanth has been known to rub the Aussies the wrong way and always manages to get under their skin.Moreover Sreesanth's attitude fires up the rest of the Indian team.Munaf maybe the highest wicket tacker in domestic cricket but he has never performed in International mathces .Sreesanth on the other hand does well both in domestic as well as International. Dhoni needs to explain why he didn't include Sreesanth in the team.If it a matter of ego or personality problem then it must be said Dhoni is a poor captain with poor man management skills.
Re: Dhoni should resign and selection panel should be sacked
by Al Capone on Nov 09, 2009 01:16 PM
Why mallu peolple always support mallus.Sreesanth was the worst player as bowler and as a player.There are many other players who performs better than him.
Re: Re: Dhoni should resign and selection panel should be sacked
by exoticbronze on Nov 09, 2009 01:39 PM
But Al Capone, all the so called better bowlers were of no use. Looks like Dhoni may have this tendency to pick bhaiyyas.
Re: Re: Dhoni should resign and selection panel should be sacked
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 01:44 PM
Why dhoni support only third class North indian players only. Following merit replacement is always possible- Dhoni(North)- Kartik(South) Kohli(north)- Dravid(south) Gambhir(north)-Laxman(south) Raina(north)- Rohit sharma(west) Ishant(north)-Sreeshant(South) Praveen(North)-Balazi(South) Bhajji(North)-Murli kartik(south) RP(North)- Abhisek nayar(West) Also players like Kulkarni, Oza, Badrinath, Irfan pathan, venugioal rao,Romesh powar ,etc knowking the door & no less than Dhob's NI friends. But they will never get cahnce as long as politician dhoni(himself an average player) is captain of the team. Even if BCCI kicks some dhoni friends out, he will bring likes of Goney, joginder sharma etc in team for sure.
Re: Dhoni should resign and selection panel should be sacked
by INDERJIT SINGH on Nov 09, 2009 01:45 PM
WE ARE GOOD IN MAKING INDIVIDUAL RECORDS LIKE KRISHNAN MENON IN UN AND WE LOST THE WAR A GOOD TEAM RUDDER LESS FULL OF CONTROVERERIES
Apropos of Gauhati ODI where India lost the series Dhoni should not continue as captain,as committed the blunder of batting first.Prior to the match it had appeared in almost all the leading news papers that Australia is going to field first.Hussey had gone up to say that they would be lucky if they lose the toss.And the foolhardy Dhoni was so over confident that he committed the blunder,and the Australias might be laughing at him.Dhoni is very very premature and proud.
Re: India's home jinx against Australia continues
by Siddhartha Das on Nov 09, 2009 01:11 PM
Dhoni is the best captain India ever had. He leads from the front and keeps the team together. He can't help it if his batsmen and bowlers are not motivated enough because they have made too much money already. He needs to bring in fresh talent who need money.
Re: Re: India's home jinx against Australia continues
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 01:48 PM
Again proven only sachin, Laxman & Dravid has got talent/technique to play consistently against top quality team like Aus/SA etc. But political dhoni being captain, no place for laxman/dravid etc in team & their replacement is horrible dhobi’s friends kohli/raina/gambhir etc This dhoni banar sena is fit only to play against team like WI, Zimbawe, Bangladesh , Kenya etc. Few of recent dhobi credential as a captain 1)shameful exit in 1st round of T20 wcup, 2)1st rounf exit in ICC cup, 3)shameful 5-2 loss against current Aus B team at home soil , 4)Loss against same Aus in ODI series last time. 5) shameful defeat in Asia cup final. 6)Less than 100 strike rate in T20. Responsible for all losses in T20 wcup as couldn’t strike the ball at crucial moment in all 3 matches. 6)Less than 35 avg in Test with No match winning /saving inning in test in entire career. No overseas 50 in test match against quality attack. 7)Inflated ODI avg in ODI due to no. of not out innings & manipulated batting position taking advantage of captaincy. Played very few match winning inning that also always on flat Indian wicket & against B grade bowling. Last 3 inning ODI strike rate less than 50. 8) Pathetic wicketkeeping. Dropped catches in almost all matches. 9)Master in politics as introduced 100% regionalism in team by keeping only NI in team just because they are his friends. 10)His T20 wcup win was a fluke as it was a new format though his contribution was zero in this tourname
Re: Re: India's home jinx against Australia continues
by Al Capone on Nov 09, 2009 01:21 PM
1.Xcuse me sir,for ur information Dhoni leads from the back by sending new comers up the order than him so that he can pass the buck. 2.The only thing he learned after captaincy is"defence"..he started using his bat as broomstick and sweeping the crease with singles one in 3-4 balls..and giving maximum strike to new comers except one match..well that is falt pitch. 3.He learned good vocalbulary to point out mistake..some time bowlers,batsmen...fielding.He himself missed catches. 4.He is expecting some sycophantic tunes fro Kohli,Raina,Jadeja.Except raina all other dumbguys.
Re: Re: India's home jinx against Australia continues
by Al Capone on Nov 09, 2009 01:21 PM
1.Xcuse me sir,for ur information Dhoni leads from the back by sending new comers up the order than him so that he can pass the buck. 2.The only thing he learned after captaincy is"defence"..he started using his bat as broomstick and sweeping the crease with singles one in 3-4 balls..and giving maximum strike to new comers except one match..well that is falt pitch. 3.He learned good vocalbulary to point out mistake..some time bowlers,batsmen...fielding.He himself missed catches. 4.He is expecting some sycophantic tunes fro Kohli,Raina,Jadeja.Except raina all other dumbguys.
Re: India's home jinx against Australia continues
by vijay rajan on Nov 09, 2009 01:16 PM
Since Ponting too would have batted first, your assessment of Dhoni's decision looks far fetched.
Thanks to the mess up during failed chases, Dhoni might have opted to bat first and put a good score on the board. Apparently, he lacks confidence in the batsmen while chasing.
The top order failed yet again which led to our downfall. Period.
Re: Re: India's home jinx against Australia continues
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 01:47 PM
Once u create so much politics in team & give insult to players like dravid, laxman etc, he will never have confidence as guilt feeling will always be with him.
i think the missing link in this series was maturity from indian batsmen to tackle inexperienced aussie bowler......dravid was the missing factor.....middle order needs stability and you cant depend upon raina's n yuvraj's. dravid experience should hyave come handy for sure...bring him back plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz....
Re: the missing link
by Siddhartha Das on Nov 09, 2009 01:08 PM
Well said. Bring in the wall - India will make 100 in 50 overs, with Dravid 50 (not out) becoming man of the match.
Re: Re: the missing link
by UnV Products on Nov 09, 2009 01:15 PM
tht 100 in 50 overs will be worht more than the 200-250 and loosing the match....get a life yaar...dravid deserves equal importance as sachin....we still need him....
Re: Re: the missing link
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 01:52 PM
Ur dhobi last 3 inning score- 23 in 48 balls 7 in 15 balls 24 in 65 balls. T20 strike rate less than 100. Dravid will do definetely better than this. Even in IPL dravid strike rate is better than dhoni. Dhoni is an average player just overhyped by media & some stupid fans like das etc.
Re: the missing link
by vijay rajan on Nov 09, 2009 01:23 PM
Most of us do realize Dravid's importance when the so-called young blood fails time & again. The selectors have goofed up yet again. How many chances do these youngsters need in order to learn & gain experience at the expense of team india's losses ? We not only need matured batsmen & bowlers, we also are in desparate need of selectors with a vision & commitment.
Re: Re: the missing link
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 01:55 PM
Its not selector issue. Its dhoni insistence to keep player like dravid/laxman etc out of team in name of age. Everyone know how effective laxman is against aussie but no one is talking about him. He is a class act & much superior to all these dhobi friends kohli, yuvi, gambhir,raina etc when we need to face quality opposition.
they were visiting side, so pressure of win is less. they had injuries.. so less pressure, as big excuse was ready. ful strength india was under tremendrous pressure. morever india chased in 4 matches and lost 3. india also did well down under by winning VB series as it had nothing to lose.
Re: Aussies had nothing to lose..
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 01:58 PM
During dravid captaincy India won consecutive 17 ODI by chasing - a world record. Now he is out of team & useless political dhoni is continuing as cptain(though he doesn't desrve a place even as a player in team) even after 3rd successive series/tournamnet defeat in pathetic manner. What a shameless politics.
While all of us vent our anger towards our paper tigers, one has to acknowledge the fact that our bench strength is poor. We lack the following :
1) 1 Steady opener who has the ability to negotiate pace / swing and stay put for the 1st 15 overs and score at a strike rate of atleast 80.00.
2) Batsmen who can steal singles with excellant running between wickets and keep the scoreboard ticking.
3) A flintoff, kallis or andrew symonds kind of genuine allrounder who can cart huge sixes at will and generate pace of 140 - 145 Ks with hostile bowling.
4) Fielders who can pull off blinders and adept at direct hits within the circle.
5) Bowlers to pull up their socks as far as fielding and throwing from the boundary is concerned.
6) 5 or 6 genuine batsmen, 1 or 2 genbuine big hitting allrounders, 2 or 3 pace bowlers to bowl at nothing less than 135 - 140 K.
Our dear selectors could do us a huge favour if they take a systematic approach to spot talent with above criterion. And needless to say, the aussies build their bench strength with such an approach and look at the results.
Re: Bench Strength
by Ramdas Nayak on Nov 09, 2009 01:06 PM
The problem with our selectors is - They do not find any one for opening beyond Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Sachin and Dinesh Karthik. - They do not find pacers beyond Nehra, Munaf, Ishant and RP Singh. - They do not consider allrounders other than Irfan, Yusuf and Jadeja.
India has young excellent players who were ignored when they were at their best in order to keep senior players who score hundreds once i 50 matches. God save India.
Re: Re: Bench Strength
by vijay rajan on Nov 09, 2009 01:13 PM
Rightly said. There exactly lies the problem. "SELECTORS". One has to wonder as to why don't new names do not crop up at selection commitee meetings ? Don't we have the talent ? Can't our selectors look beyond the already tried/tested/failed names ? What is the NCA doing ? Do players get into squads only due to influence ? Are the really talented ones lacking influence ?
Re: Bench Strength
by Dhantannan on Nov 09, 2009 12:50 PM
look at bench strength of aussies now. they have more than 20-25 players ready for wc 2011. problem for them is to pick up 11.
Re: Re: Bench Strength
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 02:05 PM
In last 15 yrs India has produced only 6 players who can be regarded of International standrad & match winning ability. 1)Anil Kumble 2)Sachin Tendulkar 3)Rahul Dravid 4)VVS laxman 5)Sourabh Ganguly 6)zaheer Khan. Rest of all including overhyped political dhobi & his sena are useless.
Re: Bench Strength
by abdul nazeer on Nov 09, 2009 01:56 PM
1. Sachin & Gambhir 2. Kaif 3. NOT AVAILABLE 4. Yuvi & Kaif to some extent 5. NOT AVAILABLE 6. gambir, sehwag, sachin or kaif, yuvi, dhoni, raina
Re: Bench Strength
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 02:00 PM
First step is to kick dhoni out. He has introduced too much politics & regionalism in team. Half the problem will be solved if a politician is removed from position of captain
Re: stop supporting cricket
by Ramdas Nayak on Nov 09, 2009 01:08 PM
Why to bring down Cricket? Cricket is the great game, emperor of all games in India. You blame players not game.
Re: Re: Re: stop supporting cricket
by ASHISH KUMAR on Nov 09, 2009 02:07 PM
Money is not the issue. Lets admit dhoni & his political sena diesn't have enough talent to counter Aussie. Hyped for nothing. Only great player in this team is Sachin & sehwag. But to be world class team u always need 5-6 great players & not only2.
And now the Aussies thrashed India in the current cricket series,I hope the Australians, would stop attacking Indian students in Australia.Hows this for a thought?
