Re: problem
by vikram kamath on Nov 06, 2009 04:01 PM
For God's sake, don't give communal color to Cricket at the least!!! Only politicans use to for votes.
Re: problem
by pradeep agarwal on Nov 06, 2009 04:08 PM
Calling them communal is wrong but they are svery superstitious thanks to most of them with no education or very humble background.The filthy money in this game without equvalent efforts make them insecure & likes of Srisanth,Munaf,Ishant,Jadeja.Yusuf etc sports these totkas to survive in team for some time.This kind of eych is also seen when singers in reality shows from small towns are in final.You could see the mother of a singer from mathura with very humble background was constantly chanting & shuffling a mala.
In 1999, India lost a Test match to Pakistan by 12 runs in Chennai. There were some startling parallels between that match and the one dayer on November 5, 2009 where India lost to Australia by 3 runs in Hyderabad.
On both occasions, Sachin Tendulkar got a big hundred and India lost.
Tendulkar added 136 runs with Nayan Mongia to revive India's chances.
On Nov 5, he added 137 with Suresh Raina to again revive India - one run more than Chennai.
Mongia perished to a pull shot when India needed 53 to win in Chennai.
Raina also perished to a pull shot when India needed 52 to win in Hyderabad -- one run less than Chennai.
On both occasions, Tendulkar was out caught trying to clear the infield with a lofted shot.
On both occasions when he got out, Tendulkar was batting with the No. 8 batsman -- Sunil Joshi in 1999, Ravindra Jadeja on Nov 5, 2009.
Both Joshi and Jadeja are slow left-arm spinners, and their second names begin with the same letter.
In 1999, Tendulkar was the seventh out with India needing 17 for a win.
In 2009, Tendulkar was the seventh out with India needing 19 for a win.
In Chennai, Wasim Akram won the toss and elected to bat.
In Hyderabad, Ricky Ponting also batted after winning the toss.
India lost their last five wickets for 40 runs in Chennai.
On Nov 5, they lost their last five wickets for 47 runs.
In 1999, Pakistan opener Shahid Afridi got a hundred.
In 2009, Australia opener Shaun Marsh got a hundred.
Re: history repeats
by pradeep agarwal on Nov 06, 2009 04:42 PM
The message is 'The remaining in team were enjoying their money than & same now whereas this guy is championing the cause of loosers after so many years & cry for the loss.There was no remorse on faces of all those who make millions from the game & yet delivers big 0 to public who sponsor this money by buying products they represent as ambassadors.
Re: history repeats
by Against Pseudos on Nov 06, 2009 02:22 PM
Got it. The rest of 10 Indian players still play the same. Tendulkar still plays the same.
The vaaaast gap in performance has continued. :)
Is that what your long research thesis trying to say?... :)
ITS REMIND ME SACHIN ONE OF THE BEST TEST 100 IN CHENNAI 10 YRS AGO IN 1999 AGAISNT PAKISTAN PLAYED A GREAT KNOCK IN TURNING AND UNEVEN BOUNCE PITCH AGAINST GREATS LIKE AKRAM,WAQAR, SAQLAIN IN GREAT PRESSURE, SACHIN ALONG WITH MONGIA TOOK VERY NEAR TO VICTORY,SACHIN WAS IN GREAT PAIN AND I THINK THAT WAS THE 1ST MAJOR INJURY OF SACHIN IN BACK, HE GOT OUT AND REST OF THE BATSMAN FAILEC TO MAKE REQUIRED 17 RUNS SAME WAS THE CASE IN HY'BAD Y'DAY
its was a totally annoying feeling after watching the match.... india could have even lost by 150 runs... losing by 3 runs and waiting for a win was only agony..
how many times has sachin did this.... he should learn to encourage the partners to play their natural game and not show body language as if he is the one such as in matrix... he always wants the strike and thinks only he should take single of the last ball of any over. if the partner takes a single of the last over, which is how gambhir, jadeja play , sachin gets pissed off and thats off he get out.. ridiculous.
Re: Re: In a loss everyone gets the blame
by x on Nov 06, 2009 02:15 PM
when someone is playing annoying cricket the players lose interest, only the spectators are screaming... the batsmen get out by sachin's attitude.. plain simple.
Re: Re: Re: Re: In a loss everyone gets the blame
by x on Nov 06, 2009 02:27 PM
first he ensures he gets others out by his annoying attitude and then he deserts the sinking ship as if showing himself as a hero... for him team comes only secondary... these are all well known and you still want explanations fcukoff
Re: In a loss everyone gets the blame
by miviu on Nov 06, 2009 02:22 PM
Why was his strike rate that bad... 175 in 141 balls was not enough. If u think he is a bad player, then he wouldn't have scored these many runs, with average of over 44, most importantly at a strike rate of 86 ... do see any body to reach/match this in the near future...
Re: Re: In a loss everyone gets the blame
by x on Nov 06, 2009 02:25 PM
only he wants the strike by taking the single of the last ball... almost all of the time.. else gives his partner to play the last 1 or 2 deliveries and doesnt want to take single for the partner of the last ball.. he slows down considerably when reaching 50 or 100 and for him 200 at the back of his head was another reason for the team's defeat..
Re: Re: Re: Re: In a loss everyone gets the blame
by RS Upadhya on Nov 06, 2009 03:07 PM
I quite agree. Why are all these Knowalls after Sachin.He is not only great, but one of the all time greats. No less a man than Sir Donald has said so. Other greats (&rivals) like Akram, Ponting,Warne, Mcgrath,Gavaskar and a host of others including ,Windies speed merchants have ack this. To me he's living legend. Our great armchair critics are entitled to their views, but to say others like Sehvag,Yuvi Dhonietc get out 'cause of S's attitude is rubbish. They should stop doing this & flush it.
Once you are within striking distance, they (Sachin and Raina) need to slow down. Its one thing that they took risks and it succeded (when India was massively behind). You can not take the same risk when you need less than 7 a over. Its not belittling the 175; it was a fantastic innings but to me its useless when India loses.
Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by vathula on Nov 06, 2009 02:17 PM
Those who have settled down should stay till the end. You have to finish it...isn't it? The pilot can not say that I flew 99.9% of the distance very well and while landing, I made the mistake!!
Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by satyanaraya jha on Nov 06, 2009 02:22 PM
I THINK UR KNOWLEDGE OF CRICKET IS VERY POOR, OPNER ARE NEVER FINISHER THET ARE PILLER FOR ENTIRE INNGS AND SET PLATFORM FOR OTHERS BATSMAN TO PLAY...IF U CAN NAME ME ANY ONE OPNER BATSMAN WHO HAS CAME FINISHING THE MATCH THEN I WILL DO WHATEVER U SAY TO ME
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by miviu on Nov 06, 2009 02:29 PM
Vathula must be thinking that its privilege of bowlers or lowere batting order not to show any commitment. 18 runs in 3 overs with 4 wickets in hand.... Sachin brougt victory to the door steps, but lack of attitude and insticnts to win... others have floored the wonderful opportunity.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by ramakrishnan s on Nov 06, 2009 05:42 PM
Buddy, so u mean to say that sachin is not required to finish off the match since he an opener. Sachin played a grt knock, nobody would deny that at all, lest u feel that i am criticising him. But we had just 19 runs to get off 19 balls, and the way sachin and jedeja was playing, they could easily got those runs playing risk free cricket. But it was not to be! sad...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by vathula on Nov 06, 2009 02:26 PM
The role has to change. Sachin should have his role changed, when India was within a striking distance. You can't hand this over to the tail enders. I am sure Sachin himself knows this but I don't expect you to know. btw, plz dont type in caps, its difficlut to read; i am sure you want people to read your post!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by miviu on Nov 06, 2009 02:41 PM
Cricket is a team game.. Sachin did his best, if he is to be blamed then what about others. We lost with just 3 runs and 2 balls to spare. Can't we expect even 3 overs of batting from 4 batsmen, out of them, ignorantly, 2 got run out. Who knows had Pravin kumar managed to save himself from run out we could have won the match. The way u expressed ur thoughts, we should not even expect tail-enders to stay on wicket for 4 overs....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by Against Pseudos on Nov 06, 2009 02:28 PM
Thanks for telling us that Sachin "decided" to get out... :)
But if Shaun Marsh can decide to get out, why not Sachin?.. :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by satyanaraya jha on Nov 06, 2009 02:31 PM
it ur problem, if ball has gone few inches here n there he wld have get few runs it was just bad luck ball landed in fielders hand, i dont need to yupe in caps or in small, people will read my message, if not all u certainly read my message LOL
Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by Against Pseudos on Nov 06, 2009 02:27 PM
Vathula
The pilot is not playing against a plane that might suddenly explode under him.
A player is playing a game against an opponent.
If according to you, getting out is in the control of a player (as if Sachin got out intentionally), then pray tell me why Dhoni decided to get out, why Sehwag decided to get out? And leave them alone (coz obviously they are inept) but why Raina decided to get out when he was so settled?
Why Shaun Marsh decided to get out? Why Shane Watson decided to get out?.... Endless questions ... eh?... :)
Even the best ever batsman in the world Sir Don Bradman has gotten out if you know... :)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by vathula on Nov 06, 2009 02:32 PM
Marsh was batting first, not chasing. If India were batting first, then Sachin's shot after 175 was more than justified. However, its a different story when you are chasing less than 7 runs a over
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by vathula on Nov 06, 2009 02:46 PM
No player ever will 'decide' to get out unless he is a fraud. It's always a risk-reward equation. The scenarios are completely different i.e, when you bat first and when you chase. Re. Pilot Q: 2 days back, the Quantas pilot forgot to let open the landing gear with less than 600 feet altitude till the safety alarms screamed to rectify the same.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by ramakrishnan s on Nov 06, 2009 05:48 PM
AP, at the start of the innings and right through the innings, we had to score at around 7 runs per over. Sure enough, one had to take chances at that stage. Sachin played wonderfully and brought the match in india's grasp in the 48th over when we had to score just 19 runs in 19 balls. Now what was the need to play risky cricket at that stage when we had both sachin and jadeja at the crease? That is the point and kindly note that it is meant to run down sachin's innings at all, but the fact is had sachin played normally, he wd have won the match easily.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sachin and Raina are to be blamed
by ramakrishnan s on Nov 06, 2009 05:49 PM
Should read...it is not meant to run down sachin's innings...
can u imagine inspite of retirements of greats like in recent time mcgrath, gillispee, warne,kasprowiz,gilchrist,hayden,martin, waugh brothers,langer, this Austrlia team is still giving challanges to other teams who are talking big, they won one day series in England though lost the test series2-1 but gave the gallont fight, won champions trophy, and now giving india hard fight,,,,those who are saying austrlia is not the same team, i am saying austrlia inspite of going through changing phase is far ahead of all. well done austrlia.. u r realy 1- 10 and after that any teams comes i salute austrlian players
SACHIN IS GREAT PLAYER OF CRICKET. I THINK SACHIN IS A ATTACKING PLAYER HE IS NOT NOT A FINISHER WHY PEOPLE BLAME HIM FOR LOSS AGAINST AUS. HE HAVE DONE HIS BEST FOR WIN BUT CRICKET IS LUCK GAME. MAKE 175 RUNS AGAINST AUS NOT AN EASY JAB HE PROVIDE YOU WINNING PATH BUT OTHER PLAYER FAIL TO PACKUP AND LOSS THE MATCH. SACHIN DONE WELL HIS INNING WAS BRILIANT FOR ALL TIME. I WANT TO ASK QUESTION PEOPLE WHAT ARE DOING OTHER 10 PLAYER WHY ARE YOU BLAME SACHIN FOR LOSS. HE IS ALWAYS PLAYING FOR INDIA WHEN HE MAKE RUNS INDIA WIN MANY MATCHES. I ALWAYS WITH SACHIN WHEN HE PLAY OR NOT HE IS A GENIOUS. SACHIN YOUR ARE THE BEST OF ALL TIME CRICKET.
Re: CONGRATULATION SACHIN
by satyanaraya jha on Nov 06, 2009 02:00 PM
BECAUSE HE CANT FINISH THE MATCH KNOWING WELL THAT AFTER HIM TAILENDER WILL COME WHEREAS PLAYERS LIKE YUVI N DHONI WHEN GETS NEAR TO VICTORY THEY COME WITH FINISHING THE CMATCH THNATS DIFFRENCE
Re: Re: CONGRATULATION SACHIN
by Against Pseudos on Nov 06, 2009 02:13 PM
Jha
Thanks for letting us know that Sachin failed to score 350 yesterday.
We are painfully aware of the situation.
He should definitely raise his game higher to the next level now, where instead of Team India, it will be Sachin v/s the Other Team as Gavaskar was subtly hinting at before the series.
Hopefully the day will arrive and we won't need any pretenders along with him to enable us to win matches.
Re: Re: Re: CONGRATULATION SACHIN
by satyanaraya jha on Nov 06, 2009 02:26 PM
Y IS IT THAT DHONI N YUVI FINISHED THE MATCH? N NOT SACHIN KNOWS VERY WELL THAT AFTER HIM AND JADEJA ONLY TAILNDERS WERE TO FOLLOW THERE WAS NO RISK TO BE TAKEN THEN I ALSO ADMIT THAT THE BALL WAS TO BE HIT AND HE PLAYED HIS SHORT HALF HEARTLY MAY BE THINKING IF BALL PASSES AWAY SHORT FINE LG FIELDER HE MAY GOT FEW RUNS INTENTION WAS GOOD BUT LADY LUCK WAS NOT WITH HIM AND INDIA, WE SHOULD ALSO APPLUED RAINAS EFFORT N I THINK IN LAST CRICKET WAS WINNER
Re: CONGRATULATION SACHIN
by Baikaar on Nov 06, 2009 01:59 PM
GREAT PLAYER, GENIUS BUT NOT FINISHER!
What is the use of young Tendulkar’s greatness and genius if he can’t finish to bring the Indian team victory. Ask any Indian and he/she will express the same feelings that the so-called ‘Little Master’ threw away his wicket in a bid to reach highest score of 194 in ODIs to get in the records books.
With so many wickets in hand, it was a simple matter for Sachin to stay at the crease. The victory was there for the taking even if Indians would have scored in singles and twos. But I had the nagging feelings that these fellows will try to become heroes and millions of Indians will be left heart-broken. This is what the Dhoni-led team did.
Re: Re: CONGRATULATION SACHIN
by satyanaraya jha on Nov 06, 2009 02:04 PM
I DO NOT AGREE WITH U MR. BAIKAAR, THAT HE THREW WAYA HIS WKTS. HE HAS PLAYED SIMILIAR SHORTS EARLIER ALSO N GET RUNS IT WAS JUST BAD LUCK THAT HE GOT OUT IF BALL HAVE GONE FEW INCHES HERE N THERE THEN IT WAS CERTAIN BOUNDRY OR RUNS I DO NOT AGREE WITH U, N I THINK UR KNOWLEDGE OF CRICKET IS VERY POOR, OPNER ARE NEVER FINISHER THET ARE PILLER FOR ENTIRE INNGS AND SET PLATFORM FOR OTHERS BATSMAN TO PLAY...IF U CAN NAME ME ANY ONE OPNER BATSMAN WHO HAS CAME FINISHING THE MATCH THEN I WILL DO WHATEVER U SAY TO ME
Re: Re: Re: CONGRATULATION SACHIN
by Baikaar on Nov 06, 2009 02:49 PM
My Brother true he played the similar shots earlier when he was attacking. But one's game very much depends on the timings and requirements of the team.
At that moment the victory was there for the taking even if Indians would have scored in singles and twos. But I had the nagging feelings that these fellows will try to become heroes and millions of Indians will be left heart-broken. This what the Dhoni-led team did.
Re: Re: Re: CONGRATULATION SACHIN
by miviu on Nov 06, 2009 02:15 PM
And what pinches is 18 runs in 3 overs could not be scored with 4 wickets in hand. Couple of player's cricketing sense is poor that they were run-out by the opposition. And India got all out 4 runs short of victory and 2 balls were still remaining.
Re: Re: Re: CONGRATULATION SACHIN
by satyanaraya jha on Nov 06, 2009 02:20 PM
we have to give full credit to aussie. in limited sources they never loose the cool
can u imagine inspite of retirements of greats like in recent time mcgrath, gillispee, warne,kasprowiz,gilchrist,hayden,martin, waugh brothers,langer, this Austrlia team is still giving challanges to other teams who are talking big, they won one day series in England though lost the test series2-1 but gave the gallont fight, won champions trophy, and now giving india hard fight,,,,those who are saying austrlia is not the same team, i am saying austrlia inspite of going through changing phase is far ahead of all. well done austrlia.. u r realy 1- 10 and after that any teams comes i salute austrlian players
