Brave words from ICL but empty ones. ICL was any case no match for IPL and now the recession has made sponsors shy away from ICL. If things were not worse, anbsence of Porki cricketers from ICL has taken away the only drawing power it had. ICL has already cancelled its April- May event and October event is also doubtful. Sooner then later we will see the demise of ICL. And ICL was not doing any noble thing of promoting cricket. It was a business venture just as IPL is. So do not shed any tears on its demise
Re: Brave words but empty words
by Kalyan Raman on Mar 31, 2009 08:19 PM
It was because of the ICL that the BCCI had to raise salaries of domestic cricketers and start the IPL. If the Indian domestic cricket stars now get a chance to play abroad (SA) they should now thank the ICL. ICL maybe a business venture but it is important for all businesses to have fair competition to keep them on their toes and to provide real value to employees and customers alike. In this way I will shed tears for any pioneer's demise.
Re: Re: Brave words but empty words
by Vinal Gandhi on Mar 31, 2009 08:26 PM
BCCI raised salaries of domestic players much before ICL commenced operations. And the real logic behind ICL to commence was not any phelanthropic but because BCCI cancelled Zee's contract and Subhash Chandra wanted to hit back. Secondly Mody of BCCI had this idea about Cricket league in line with EPL long before ICL but BCCI at that time under Dalmiya shot down the idea. Granted, ICL was a good thing to have happened but ultimately sponsors dried up and that is hardly BCCI's fault.
Re: Brave words but empty words
by Ashwin Ramaswamy on Mar 31, 2009 08:04 PM
Why can't IPL and ICL co-exist ? Why should ICL be closed ? and this rubbish about considering ICL players as "illegal" won't be tolerated any longer . in the 70 s when Tony Greig and Co. went to play World Series they were not allowed to play regular international cricket after returning. They went to court and sued and got justice. Same will happen with players like Justin Kemp,Shane Bond and more players if BCCI does not allow them to play international cricket just because they are in ICL
Re: Re: Brave words but empty words
by bharat on Mar 31, 2009 08:31 PM
Mr ashwin dont u see the vast diff between the compitativeness of both not even 10%of ppl watched icl where as max cricket loving public watched ipl coz of which it is a hit,and moreover that half head guy chandra with ofground unsuccesfull team of players is pouring so much money to the foreign players who even dont give 10%of their best on grounds,does this make cricket loving indian happy!!!
Re: Re: Brave words but empty words
by Vinal Gandhi on Mar 31, 2009 08:14 PM
I agree with you that IPL and ICL should be allowed to co-exist and may the tourney more favored by people win! But that's the nature of business. Could you envisage another football league independant of FA to exist? Could you think of a parallel Olympic to take place independant of IOC? ICL should have realized that IPL has more power, more money and more authority. They tried to prevail but failed. Look at the attendance figures at ICL and compare them with IPL's.
Re: Re: Brave words but empty words
by sanjayhyadav on Mar 31, 2009 08:15 PM
both of u r right but ppl should look cricket as game n not as business. only cricket council can owe d tournaments n not private. it must have international approval as 50-50.
Re: Re: Brave words but empty words
by bushwacker on Mar 31, 2009 08:16 PM
they cant because they are rivals and ICL is not recognised by BCCI.BCCI is running cricket in india not Zee.
Re: Re: Re: Brave words but empty words
by Vinal Gandhi on Mar 31, 2009 08:21 PM
The nearest individual who had challenged the authority of an organization was Kerry Packer. And even he had to shut down his operations, though he had more acceptance amongst players then the individual country boards of that time. Any why he so nearly succeeded? Because he was offering more money. IPL is offering much more money then ICL. So afterall, it is all about money honey! No game today is only a game. Everything is business and money matters. Those who have deeper pockets alwys win in the end.
corrupt pawars (not powers) just started IPL to match ICL as BCCI was going downhill. The twiste face did not like losing corrupt revenues. Hence IPL is the one thatneeds to shut down and NOT ICL.
Re: KEEP ICL GOING- THATS is Real Cricket
by FINGER on Mar 31, 2009 08:04 PM
u r very correct,mr.sharma Kapil heading ICL is originL Cricket which design for enjoyment and giving plateform to beginer.
Re: KEEP ICL GOING- THATS is Real Cricket
by bharat on Mar 31, 2009 08:20 PM
have u seen icl matches,i tried to watch but cant see it for more then few minutes y has it happened?????? also watch the final it was like pakistan team playing one side and all others on other isnt this rubbish?
ICL is started by real cricket players with a vision whereas IPL is started by some gamblers & few so called business ppl... but in India only gamblers will hav the say... sports is itself a gamlbing these days.. :(
Re: ICL Vs IPL
by MILIND RODRIGUES on Mar 31, 2009 08:12 PM
Dont give that bull sh*t...The ICL owners are not here for philanthrophy...People like Kapil dev and others have only joined for the money. Do u think they would join ICL and accept no pay.If that is the case then only can u say that they are interested i the welfare of cricket
Re: Re: ICL Vs IPL
by Vinal Gandhi on Mar 31, 2009 08:28 PM
Spot on. If they were of noble intentions, why they have not paid salaries to many of its players?
BCCI has done a good job by keeping ICL at bay. Otherwise, tomorrow some sheikh form gulf will come to start a cricket league saying that his sports channel wants to rule cricket. Then, one more sheikh will come and so on. Finally, India would have more than ten different leagues managed by petrol pump owners, i.e. sheikhs. Already many top football clubs are being bought by them incl. MAN U.
Re: BCCI has done a good job
by Ashwin Ramaswamy on Mar 31, 2009 08:02 PM
BCCI is arrogant,selfish,narrow-minded and greedy . It has been ill-treating ICL for long and now still refuses to change ! They even hesitated to invite Kapil Dev for felicitation ceremony beacuse he happened to be chairman of ICL .In the event they invited him but the whole thing speaks much about their attitude. BCCI hurriedly fixed dates for IPL without even considering elections and now has paid for its folly as the tournament has been shifted to South Africa .Why can't IPL and ICL co-exist ? Why should ICL be closed ? and this rubbish about considering ICL players as "illegal" won't be tolerated any longer . in the 70 s when Tony Greig and Co. went to play World Series they were not allowed to play regular international cricket after returning. They went to court and sued and got justice. Same will happen with players like Justin Kemp,Shane Bond and more players if BCCI does not allow them to play international cricket just because they are in ICL
I am really regretted because lot players are abadoned from the matches due to terror attack as well security concern.Eventually icl is striving to get place in india as well overseas to promote their publicity by means of cricket.Honestly icl could not fight with bcci by all the way , because bcci is richest board forever in the world,becuase of crazy fans and only game dominating in our nation. Eventhough other games are also playing but does not reach to public due inadequate resource and in efficient management and politics between members. Everybody intention to rob money from the government and store into their locker. Is all not ashame to us. We are standing 2nd place in population but we could not win any medals respectively. we are loning every olymbic for getting gold to represent india to the world.It is really disgusting to all.
Re: Bullied by bcci
by Anjar on Mar 31, 2009 07:50 PM
bcci is a bully.
BCCI did everything to ruin ICL from political pressure to pressure on the spoansors, even they didn't pay the dues of those Indian players who played in ICL. such a shame for BCCI.
in short, BCCI did everything un-sporty in the name of sports. shame on BCCI
Re: Bullied by bcci
by SaneA on Mar 31, 2009 07:58 PM
Naveen bhai points noted. But why don't you improve your english - what horrible constructions --
ICl developed the idea of a league. The BCCI tried their level best to squash it, armtwisting etc..Finally they started their own and ensured by their political methodology that no one will enter ICL. Heroes like Kapil are side-tracked and enterpreneurs like Subhash Chandra face opposition. Its sad that politicians enter every where wherever their is money. Who says the licence raj is over? Level the playing fields and then the match outcome will be true! And yes, definitely some will find IPL better after all they have weaned away the stars(using the BCCIs clout). Even ICC has become a puppet in the hands of BCCI
Re: IPL is the no - 1
by Clinton Borges on Mar 31, 2009 07:45 PM
Its like an Indian saying the British are the best 70 years ago. How did they get there; by robbing us Indians. The IPL robbed the ICL and did all they could to kill them
Re: IPL is the no - 1
by SATISH REDDY on Mar 31, 2009 08:18 PM
IPL is really worst . ICL is the best. IPL took the concept from ICL and started the league. U will find true cricket legends only In ICL. Try to open u r eyes my dear friend
Re: IPL is the no - 1
by Kuntak Nag on Mar 31, 2009 08:25 PM
Mr. Branch, u can dream for your IPL to be the best. But the reality is just the opposite.
BCCI is arrogant,selfish,narrow-minded and greedy . It has been ill-treating ICL for long and now still refuses toi change ! They even hesitated to invite Kapil Dev for felicitatioin ceremony beacuse he happened to be chairman of ICL .In the event they invited him but the whole thing speaks much about their attitude. BCCI hurriedly fixed dates for IPL without even considering elections and now has paid for its folly as the tournament has been shifted to South Africa .Why can't IPL and ICL co-exist ? Why should ICL be closed ? and this rubbish about considering ICL players as "illegal" won't be tolerated any longer . in the 70 s when Tony Greig and Co. went to play World Series they were not allowed to play regular international cricket after returning. They went to court and sued and got justice. Same will happen with players like Justin Kemp,Shane Bond and more players if BCCI does not allow them to play international cricket just because they are in ICL
Re: BCCI will never change
by Kuntak Nag on Mar 31, 2009 08:21 PM
I fully agree with you Mr. Ramaswamy. U said 100% correct about BCCI. They are really very arrogant, selfish, narrow-minded and greedy. Love live ICL. Mr. Subhash Chanda, we are with you.
Re: BCCI will never change
by SATISH REDDY on Mar 31, 2009 08:22 PM
I do agree with your commentsThats right Ashwin BCCI is arrogant and selfish people and corrupted.
