Dhoni's tricks will get exposed one by one. All these 1 billion strong herd of sheep - Indian fans - will slowly realize how Dhoni is feasting all glory that was carefully built by preceding Captains ESPECIALLY GANGULY!
Ganguly was not into regionalism or other groupism. He was NOT an insecure person. He knew his technical limitations as a batsman (He is no Tendulkar or Dravid) but that man excelled with the bat bring the best out of his talent. He was an even more talented captain, who was excellent at spotting talent and giving them the confidence to perform - WHETHER THEY WERE BENGALI OR NOT!
This Dhoni prefers to have his Hindi wallahs only! His shrewd manouvering to get non Hindi wallahs and established senior players (about him he is again insecure about even if they are from Delhi...like Sehwag) out of the team will get exposed soon..when deep resentment builds up among players, and 'Captain worshipping' and NOT TALENT would be the primary criteria to stay on in the team. This Bhajji and Dhoni jodi is out to ruin Indian cricket.
AFter Sreesant got the 5 wicket haul, I had predicted on Rediff boards TWO things - 1) That he will soon get Sreesanth out of matches using some ridiculous excuse in front of the media and I specified 'Upset Stomach' by way of example. I was stunned to read that this is the EXACT excuse he used.
2) Soon he will start making Sehwag's life miserable and shake his confidence, to eventually get him out of the team.
Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans backfired!!!
by rahul bajaaj on Dec 10, 2009 01:26 AM
Mr Exoti, You are a morwe regionilistic person than your dada Ganguly. Leave Dhoni, Everybody knows about Saurab Ganguly for his regionalism,favouritism, Bossism,Autocratic behaviour and other cheap tactics he had made inside india and also abroad with the help of Jagmohan Dalmia. Once dalmia was out, he even went against him and agin patched up with dalmia once he again came back to power. Ganguly was a daring captin but do not hide his ugly intentions with your mask. The most selfish person was ganguly,he was caption of the team only because of Dalmia and was righly thrown out because of the help of one Austtralian,greg chappel.
Re: Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans backfired!!!
by exoticbronze on Dec 10, 2009 01:40 AM
So how many Bengalis did 'regionalistic' Ganguly bring into and/or encourage to flourish in the team?
Last time I checked Sehwag was not a Bengali, but the guy keeps praising Ganguly's leadership and for persisting with Sehwag. Infact Sehwag says his turning point as a cricketer came due to Ganguly spotting Sehwag's talent to be an opener and discussing it with Sehwag at lenght (without imposing it on Sehwag). Sehwag says he will remain ever indebted to Ganguly's leadership. (This was in response to a question comparing leadership styles of Dhoni and Ganguly!).
Ditto with Sachin. In a recent interview when asked to compare Ganguly's captaincy with Dhoni's, Sachin said, "I am not into comparing two individuals, every one is different". Then he went on to praise Ganguly (and not Dhoni) by saying, "This much I will say, most decision taken by Ganguly on the field were SPOT ON correct!".
Stop this regional nonsense when someone like me brings out a line of though so different from the herd of 'Dhoni worshippers'. This is the beginning of a steep downtrend for INdian Cricket.
Dhoni can hide behind the achievements of this team that was nurtured and nourished by seniors like Ganguly, Sachin, Dravid, Sehwag, Kumble, Laxman etc. HOwever it is not an unlimited bank account for him to keep withdrawing from, without putting stuff into nurture it further!
His games to remove non 'Yes Sir, NO Sir' players (like Sreesanth) and estblished icons like Sehwag will ruin things
Re: Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans backfired!!!
by Rahuldravid Backstabber on Dec 10, 2009 07:15 AM
Mr.Rahul Bajaaj, you are the "owner" of bajaj industry; still you have such low IQ! Kindly substantiate your theories about Ganguly's bossism, favouritism etc etc. Else, why dont you just say that you are a simple rabid Ganguly hater. Please dont try to hide your bias with un-substantiated theories.
Re: Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans backfired!!!
by Against Pseudo on Dec 10, 2009 07:49 AM
BAJ AAJ...... WELL VIRU , YUVI, HARBAJAN, ZAHIR, NEHRA, EVEN dravid in odi ,IRFAN & DHONI WERE SELECTED BECZ OF GANGULY REGIONALISM......
Re: Re: Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans backfired!!
by Against Pseudo on Dec 10, 2009 07:52 AM
he is the only captain we had in India who didnt have a regional favours. he looked for the talent unlike other captains
Re: Re: Re: Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans backfir
by exoticbronze on Dec 10, 2009 08:59 AM
100% correct. Ganguly never got into the regional politics, and groomed and encouraged cricketers only going by their talent.
All those Ganguly haters (and blind Dhoni followers) need to chill some. Dhoni is basking in the results of the hard work put in by his predecessors over the years - principal among them Saurav Ganguly.
Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans backfired!!!
by exoticbronze on Dec 10, 2009 01:22 AM
Sehwag would be out of team India after World Cup! Those of you reading this please make a mental note about this, and recall this when Sehwag decides to hand his boots soon after the world cup! The guy has too much class to openly spill the beans about the intense politics of Dhoni, so Sehwag will maintain his dignity and remain quiet. Already if you guys notice, in every interview he appreciates Ganguly's leadership in reposing the confidence in Sehwag, and brining out the best in Sehwag. In the present setup Sehwag is lucky to have Gary Kirsten else Dhoni leadership would have already ruined Sehwag's focus. A player like Sehwag needs just one thing to be at peak performance - The full backing of his captain that results in optimum self confidence. As K Srikkanth rightly said "Sehwag is a CONFIDENCE player". Players like Sehwag come once in 50 years, and are a combination of skill (which many other batsmen may have), and self confidence (Which very FEW batsmen have...do you think a Sachin or a Dravid would play a reverse sweep or a hook to complete 250 or 300? NO! Sehwag completed his 250 with a reverse sweep! And will hook if the ball is 'hook'able even if he is on 299..instead of waiting through 15 dot balls to get to his 300! That is a CONFIDENCE player). Dhoni knows that and will slowly begin chipping away at Sehwag's ocnfidence.
Now you will say how? Simple. By spoiling Sehwag's rhythm. The most likely way would be by changing Sehwag's batting order,and end his form
Re: Re: Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans backfired!!
by exoticbronze on Dec 10, 2009 02:01 AM
"how many players from Jharkhand did Dhoni favour to be in the Indian side."
LOL..are there any players in Jharkhand. YOu got one Dhoni from that hinterland. Which is why he is getting all his non performing Hindi wallahs Sharmajis. Did I not make that clear previously. (Now unless Dhoni gets someone from Jharkhand, or possibly from his own 'gully', it wont satisy you. Why, even so you will say 'but he is not from Dhoni's home, so Dhoni is being fair'. Sheeple like you will start 'baa'ying a different tune as soon as this team's fotunes start going downhill...and soon!
LOL! Since you could NOT name a Bengali player that Ganguly brought in (to support your accusation about Ganguly being 'regionalistic') what do you bring as evidence?! You quote Lok Sabha Speaker talking about Ganguly's expulision as your best evidence of Ganguly being 'regionalistic'. LOL! Is that the best you could come up with?!! Hilarious stuff!!!
So you think that if you state Somnath Chatterjee is a 'Shameless speaker' then you have successfully tarred Ganguly! And you are not regionalistic!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans bac
by exoticbronze on Dec 10, 2009 02:29 AM
I just read another comment of yours where you support a comment calling Yusuf Pathan a 'taliban terrorist' because of his beard, and when someone else objected to that comment on Yusuf, you ganged up on the person rebuking the stupid comment. You criticized the sensible comment and called the person a 'terrorist sympathiser' a 'Pak sympathiser' and to leave INdia...or some such.
That pretty much sums up your mentality. LOL..and you are preaching on to others about 'REgionalism'.
There is no point dignifying people like you by responding to your comments!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I am THRILLED that Dhoni's crooked plans bac
by exoticbronze on Dec 10, 2009 04:32 AM
Rahul Bajaj,
Nice to hear that you are a True Indian fan. Anyway to refresh the memory of the 'True Indian Supporter' that you are, I am copying and pasting your comment (which incidentally is from this same thread/article).
Here is the original comment that got it started:
by s mumbai on Dec 09, 2009 11:10 PM | Hide replies
dhoni overestimates himself...he was the sole reason of defeat today...why the hell he need to promote himself...first he wasted useful deliveries and caused pressure on gambhir...then he threw his wicket...time for team to call back dravid bcoz our new crop of pathan,rohit,jadeja,virat is a failure... yusuf with his beard looks like a talibani...i am ashamed as an indian to have this terrorist in the team.."
Then Faseeh Aamir responded with the following comment upset about this guy calling Yusuf a terrorist:
by Faseeh Aamir on Dec 09, 2009 11:38 PM I am very depressed with your comment on Yusuf. Infact your comment reflects your feeling against the muslims. You people r responsible for the rift that exists in between hindus and muslims.Rubbish mentality. I am ashamed aswell after knowing the fact that there r people who thinks like you."
Then YOU 'Rahul Bajaaj' chimed in with this comment:
by rahul bajaaj on Dec 09, 2009 11:40 PM Idiot Faseeh Aamir, Why are u showing your Pakistani mentality in this forum. Get lost you terrorist out of India."
Faseeh was not being communal or abusive. yet u call him terrorist n idiot.
Re: Re: Sri Lanka won thanks to the sublime efforts
by Hago Kiruttinan on Dec 10, 2009 01:31 AM
omg! what you are saying is we played with 7 players and they played with 15 ?
As in the past Sanath Jayasurya was/Is India's nemesis during this match. He either excels with both the bat and ball or at least on bowling along when his batting form is dipping even at his age of 40.
Re: SANATH JAYASURYA:
by srilal ravindra on Dec 10, 2009 01:14 AM
Its no use saying that Jayasurya is India's nemesis. He was given life by Indian fielders. Catches being dropped ( 4 in all; all easy ones .. sitters) and runout of Sangakkara .. We gave the match away to SriLanka. India didnt deserve to win today by the way they fielded.
This was a fast outfield, it was not the hitters pitch to just go on hitting 6's. This was pitch for technical batsmen like Sangakarra and Gautam Gambhir, thats why those 4s, the ground shots were important which they capitalise on.. It was not the pitch for the pinch hitter which indians were trying. This was the main reason for the indian defeat.
Indian's are always complacent after this victories, as they have taken this 20-20 encounter lightly.
After the two test wins, India should have fielded their best 11 like Zaheer, praveen Kumar, Jadeja in the 20-20's.
Only after a 3-0 win in ODI's, they should have rested some players and fielded some young faces that too 1 or 2, not 4 or 5 replacements. This foolish selection policies of the Selectors,Captain has cost similar types of matches in the past.
Re: COMPLACENCY:
by gaurav manchanda on Dec 10, 2009 12:28 AM
u r asking for jadeja in the playing XI. What will be his role in the team Batsman, Bowler or an all-rounder?
Re: Re: COMPLACENCY:
by rahul bajaaj on Dec 10, 2009 12:40 AM
Jadeja is definitely a good bowler & fielder like Ojha,Praveen kumar etc and a useful late order batsman. Given Chances, he will a better allrounder than the useless Irfan pathan.
Re: COMPLACENCY:
by vinay on Dec 10, 2009 12:28 AM
okay. but majority of newcomers were on the bench except for dinda. so selection of new players had hardly anythng to do.
Re: Re: COMPLACENCY:
by rahul bajaaj on Dec 10, 2009 12:43 AM
Mr.Vinay, What was Zaheer Khan rested.Was he playing non stop cricket for the last 12 months???? He had just returned only for this series after aninjury and he is fit also.
Praveen kumar & Ravindra jadeja inspite of being economical bowlers in 20-20's in 2009 ahead of even Harbhajan singh has not been selected. Whether this is blunder or tactical thinking or grooming somebody for 2025 world cup??????
Re: Re: Re: COMPLACENCY:
by gaurav manchanda on Dec 10, 2009 12:59 AM
selectors wants to remove from the job of captaincy thats y they have choosen useless players.
Re: Re: Re: Re: COMPLACENCY:
by gaurav manchanda on Dec 10, 2009 12:59 AM
selectors wants to remove Dhoni from the job of captaincy thats y they have choosen useless players.
As Mr Gaurav & Jay commented, Dhoni should be playing only at No-6 or No-7 in both 20-20's & ODI's otherwise he should be out of the team eventhough he is the best (Successful)Indian captain till date.
Re: DHONI:
by gaurav manchanda on Dec 10, 2009 12:00 AM
No question can be raised on the dhoni's performance in ODIs but in T20 Internationals his performance raise lot of questions?
Re: Re: DHONI:
by rahul bajaaj on Dec 10, 2009 12:04 AM
Definitely Dhoni is not a great 20-20 player as he was a few years back, but his position at No- 6 or 7 will always be handy in most situations.
The dual role/pressure of captainship/Wicketkeeping cannot be handled in 20-20's especially coming at No-3.
unless Dhoni, Selectors and the fans realise this, India will be loosing soon a successful captain.
Also, except for parthiv patel, there is no ideal replacement for Dhoni in the 20-20's.
Re: Re: Re: DHONI:
by gaurav manchanda on Dec 10, 2009 12:11 AM
Dhoni's performance is not good in T20 bcoz he has changed his batting style and approach
Re: Re: Re: Re: DHONI:
by rahul bajaaj on Dec 10, 2009 12:16 AM
Because of Dhoni's change in attidue in his batting style (playing as a stock batsman instead of striking), did india finished many matches successfully, unlike in the past. But, Dhoni & Fans should realise this and see that Dhoni plays the role of a rescuer/hitter only at No-6 or 7 and not at No-3,4 or 5. This is the important reason for India's defeat in the past 10 months other than some team selection mistakes like leaving Praveen Kumar, jadeja, Zaheer khan etc...
Chasing 215 cannot be done even with 11 batsman. Credit should be given to Sri Lankans for their fighting spirit. Also, Indians did loose by 29 runs only aginst this big score, unlike the past Indian teams, who would have lost by atlest 60 runs while chasing this score.
Re: This team is good than the team some 3 years ago:
by vinay on Dec 10, 2009 12:00 AM
credit to lankan batsman n ind fielders who purposely dropped so many simple catches that players like yuv dropping simples ones.
100% fixing. theres no doubt abt it now. once agian its proved that ckt is a tamasha show.
so many catches dropped. at least 7-8 catches in all. dropped by the best fielders like yuv -2, sehwag-1, ishant-2, ojha-1. u cant justify that as normal ckt.
so simple catches dropped by likes of yuv implies that itwas really a gift of ind to lankans to score above 200 runs. even misfields like that of yusuf.
just pack up the discussion n ignore such matches. its really painful.
