RE:Poor DC
by Antonio Mascarenhas on May 04, 2008 01:39 PM
What about Misbah decision ????????????????????????? Was he out so please do not blame the umpires. What happen the other day when RC lost to RR.Dravid was given out LBW ???????????
RE:Poor DC
by Roshan Shark on May 04, 2008 01:30 PM
DC, despite having such a powerful line-up are in the bottom of the table, infact they have lost more matches than anybone in the tournament.. that itself says a lot of things....
1. Poor captaincy 2. Poor execution 3. poor local talent
RE:Poor DC
by on May 04, 2008 12:43 PM
Don't you think Misbah also got a bad decision.
Dravid's captaincy is better than Laxman and Ganguly in t20 matches.The reason- Laxman and Ganguly got better teams than Dravid but still they aren't utilising the resources well.
Bangalore will end up with either 4th or 5th place. Just keep watching.
People blame Dravid , whenever BRC loose the match. Bangalore currently do not have a local talent. He has to depend mostly on 4-5 players. Compare him to Ganguly. KKR got better local players compared to BRC but still they are loosing. Dravid is doing better with whatever the resources available to him.
Other than DRAVID, only two notable players from Bangalore are Uthappa, whom Mumbai took away and Kumble who can't turn the ball to be more effective.
One need to have a good local talent to win the matches.Delhi, Chennai and Punjab got a good local talent. KKR captain don't know how to use his local talent, even though it is good.
Stop blaming Dravid or Laxman or even Mumbai captain for everything, if they do not win. These captains are doing best with their available local talent. Also, do not expect they reach semis.
RCB should ask Venkatesh Prasad & Srinath to play instead of players like Sunil Joshi who is elder than Prasad or Srinath.
RE:Dravid trying his best with no local talent
by mithun ds on May 04, 2008 03:29 PM
Rajasthan Royals have good local talent such as yusuf pathan, R Jadeja, and two good young bowlers
RE:Dravid trying his best with no local talent
by shaz on May 04, 2008 04:00 PM
How can we call the local talent is better in rajasthan royals and delhi but not soo good in in other teams.Warnie is doing an exceptional job at captaining as well as coaching the side. He is the true reason why some of the local talent has been doing exceptionally well. The same might not have done so well had they played for some of the other teams like mumbai or banglore.
RE:Dravid trying his best with no local talent
by on May 04, 2008 12:37 PM
If Dravid and Ganguly retire, who will go to stadiums to watch matches in Bangalore and Calcutta respectively ?
Ganguly played far more 20-20 matches than Dravid. Ganguly should have played better . Dravid once known for test matches only, slowly developed his skills to become a good one day player. If he would have played 40 to 50 t20 macthes, he would have adjusted.
The reason you can't Darvid and Ganguly because for following two reasons. Name any better player than Dravid even in 20-20 , who is from Bangalore for replacement and same holds good for Ganguly ?
RC is really lucky to get two quick wickets of Laxman and Styris (both LBW but not outs as per the TV replays) and thats the turning point. Else DC would have won the game. Greate effort by Bangar but could have run quickly in the previous overs to change singles to twos. Anyways the game was interesting.
Thank God! Venugopal was not there in Deccan Chrgers team. Otherwise, Venugopal along with Arjun Yadav(Recommendation candidate by Shivlal Yadav) would have formed a deadly combination and as a result the Deccan Chargers would have lost by a margin of 100 runs.
flash news : harhajan singh has developed a new delivery. the teesra. here he will not bowl the ball, but he will fart when he is about to bowl. the non-striker cant bear the stink and he will run away. then harbhajan will run him out. this is the teesra.
tendulkar is so afraid to face bowlers like brett lee, mcgrath and asif that he has chosen the safes option of sitting out of the games. he will play against some weak opposition, score a scratchy 20 or 30. all his fans will be extremely happy and they will start praising him. and they will claim that he is the greatest cricketer in the world. what an insult to the really great players out there. he is nothing but an ordinary cricketer now. he was good when he was young. now he lacks the ability and skill to face the best bowlers. but he doesnt realize that. he thinks that by scoring a 100 in every 10 matches and getting out for single digit scores in the other 9 matches, everyone will consider him to be a great player. it is time that he retires and gives opportunity to deserving youngsters before he ruins their careers.
RE:tendulkar
by ratsass on May 04, 2008 11:53 AM
he deserves to be downgraded. he is a selfish player who wants to create all records before he retires. compare him to players like jayasuriya and gilchrist and others, who dont have any problems in playing according to the situation. if the team needs them to go for runs when they are on 90, the will try to hit a six. but tendulkar will make sure he will get from 90 to 100 in singles, wasting as many balls as possible. just because he will complete another hundred. such selfish players do not deserve any praise. indian cricket will propser if tendulkar retires.
RE:tendulkar
by m w on May 04, 2008 11:56 AM
I know u want to watch tendulkar play...but he doesn't read these reactions so it won't bring him out to prove himself to you!!! I hope u understand injuries...why not try to play and hit a century with the leather ball even in local matches and then comment Mr. couch potato!!!
RE:tendulkar
by ratsass on May 04, 2008 12:12 PM
hahaha. well, if that explanation gives you any comfort, so be it. the truth is that people like you become blind when it comes to tendulkar. whatever he does is ok, according you people. if he scores a zero, he would have got out to an unplayable delivery. if he struggles for a patchy knock, then the wicket is such that any batsman would have struggled. thanks to people like you, mediocrity has assumed importance in indian cricket. thanks to people like you, non performing players are given god like status in indian cricket. i have nothing against tendulkar. he was good once. not now. thats my point. anyways, keep up your policy of supporting tendulkar. some people never realize.
RE:tendulkar
by daisydaiisy on May 04, 2008 12:57 PM
whenever he has injury u say that. u get ur opportunity. but when he hits 2 back-back winnining scores like in finals in australia, u all hide in ur dingy dens. tell me other than sachin which indian has done well against no.1 team australia? has anyone helped team win finals in australia? has anyone else helped win oneday tournaments like in sharjah against australia? where were u when he scored 499 runs in tests in australia? he has best batting record in tests(highest form of cricket) against australia. no indian has come close to his avg against aus. even lara's avg is pathetic against australia. sachin played with injury in australia for the sake of the team. really, morons like u who have not achieved even 1% of what sachin has achieved or will take 9999 lifetimes to even achieve half of what sachin has achieved need to be shot down when u utter irreelevant nonsense like u did above.
RE:RE:tendulkar
by ratsass on May 04, 2008 01:08 PM
you seem to be a someone who is blind to tendulkar's failures. you talk about his back to back hundreds and his winning performance in sharjah. how many matches has he plyed till now? he has played for 18 years. in all those years, are those 2 matches the only ones you can think of? that itself shows how much of a non performer he is. you are proving what i said in my earlier reply. tendulkar will perform pathetically for many matches ina row. then suddenly he will come up with a hundred. and you will all be very happy and start saying that he is god. what an insult to god!! what happened to your god when he hit ducks or single digit scores in other matches?? i am not saying that he should hit a hundred every single match. but if he is the greates player you all claim that he is, a little more consistency, selflessness and attitude is required from him. a player doesnt become great by scoring 42 hundreds. the circumstances in which he gets them and the manner in which he gets them also contribute to his greatness. as long as you people dont realize this, you will continue to be oblivious to his failures.
RE:tendulkar
by daisydaiisy on May 04, 2008 01:13 PM
those two are the finals he won for india against champion team aus...tell me another pklayer who has done it against champions aus? ur dhoni? ur sehwag? ur yuvraj? tendulkar was top scorer for india in last 12 months in onedayers and this was after idiots like u asked for his retirement,....tell me how he at age 35 is able to beat the likes of dhoni or yuvraj in scording hundreds....do u have the answer? u idiot go and see his hundreds and how they have been useful. sehwag or yuvraj or dhoni can't even match to 25% of what sachin has done for india...first tell me contributions of ur heroes like sehwag/yuvraj/dhoni before talking crap abt tendulkar.
RE:tendulkar
by ratsass on May 04, 2008 01:20 PM
i am not claiming that yuvraj, dhoni or sehwag is great, am i?? before you start abusing others, get your facts right. again and again you are focussing only on tendulkar's match winning innings. just one year back, he struggled at home againts pakistan. his own hone crowd (mumbai) booed him out of the stadium. anyone who has played as an opening batsman for 18 yars will get 42 hundreds. forget about the recently concluded series against australia. apart from that, can you tell me atleat 5 innings over the last 5 years where his hundreds have contributed to an indian victory (test matches)? can you tell me at least two second innings performances over the last 5 years where his batting has won the match for india? if you have the answer, please reply. if you dont have a proper answer, please dont reply by abusing.
RE:RE:tendulkar
by daisydaiisy on May 04, 2008 01:28 PM
struggled at home? wow u show ur ignorance. he helped india win the odi series against pakistan. forgot his 97??? in tests against pak too he had good scores of 82, 56 not out etc. do u call a small section of idiots as whole mumbai crowd eh? idiot test matches are not won by individuals they are won by the team. first learn some basics of cricket. and test cricket is usually won by bowlers. btw ur a smart cunning fella putting a blanket requirement knowing fully well that it won't fit the bill like match winning hundred. was his 91 in headingley in england last year not as useful or match winning one? was his 2 hundreds against bangaladesh not useful? was his 44 against south africa when chips were down for india on the bouncy track in south africa not useful? and why should i ignore australia? he came to very good form in australia and he had worked hard for it. if not for his injuries in 2004 and 2005, he would have done well even in those years. u need to learn more abt cricket before discussing ur crap here. u just hate him for nothing. and its so sad coz whole world including warne and macgrath and donald call him greatest. then what are u? are u greater than warne or mcgrath or donald? hahaha.
RE:tendulkar
by ratsass on May 04, 2008 01:42 PM
and you are extremely smart too my friend. you quote statistics on matches, but you dont take into account the value of the innings. tendulkar, when batting second has a failure rate that is comparable to most number 11s in the world. you are using his injuries to protect him here. 'if not' for his injuries in 2004 and 2005, he would have done well. would he? 'if not' for your diminishing grey cells, you would have become albert einstein, wouldnt you? his 91 in headingley, as well as some of the other knocks that you have mentioned were constructed with such pain that any one would have wondered if the man was playing with one blind eye. his misses and swipes at deliveries were an eyesore. the only good thing about that innings was his focus to stay at the wicket despite struggling so much. his 2 hundreds against bangladesh, well, all i can say is that jason gillespie also got a 200 against bangladesh. and i still am waiting for an answer. his 2nd innings match winning performances (not even hundreds, mind you). this distinguishes him from players like ponting, lara and other true greats. do you mean to say that inspite of playing 18 years he doesnt have a single match winning performance in the 2nd innings? wow, that truly makes him great!!!
RE:tendulkar
by daisydaiisy on May 04, 2008 02:03 PM
ur really amazing dude. u find one reason or the other for talking trash abt tendulkar.
1. now that i compiled u a list of useful scores by sachin, u talk abt first and second innings. then when i compile list for the same, u will talk abt scores in daytime and afternoon time..what humbug arguement is this? seems like u have free quota to talk trash abt sachin as much as u want and u dig all kinds of scenarios for that from the corner of ur brain.
2. oh so now that 91 has been proved to be useful, it was played with pain eh? next u would say sachin needs to bat with one hand and score hundreds eh? mate have some sense here. we are talking cricket here not some gilly danda or some rajnikanth film.
3. so if gillespie got 2 hundreds against bdesh, sachin should not? he should just keep quiet and score ducks when he is in australia? now u really starting to annoy me and show ur total ignorance.
4. if 2nd innings alone was so imp. then do u mean to say all should get out to zeroes in first innings...btw the pitch is rock hard and doing things mostly in first innings...true mark of a batsman is how he scores on these good tracks with bounce and moisture for fast bowlers in the first innings and helps team build up a good score,...
ur really talking trash dude coz u know in ur own heart ur running out of excuses to find that sachin is not a great player. thats why u resort to all kinds of irrelevant nonsense like scoring 91 in pain and what not.
RE:tendulkar
by ratsass on May 04, 2008 02:30 PM
if you are so keen on portraying tendulkar as a great batsman, i am willing to have a bet. lets assume that he plays for another 2 years. in those 2 years, let us see analyze each match, each inning. let us see how many winning performances he dishes out. let us categorize it : matches played in india matches played abroad batting first (ODIs) batting second (ODIs) first innings batting (tests) second innings batting (tests)
after 1 year of cricket, let us see if he has proved himself to be a great batsman. who knows, i might change my mind at the end of 1 year!!
let me know if you agree to this. instead of having a war of words here, let us go about this in a different way and let us see if we can arrive at a conclusion. what do u say?
RE:tendulkar
by ratsass on May 04, 2008 02:18 PM
now i am amazed at your ability to support tendulkar over and over again. you claim to hve given me scores of his second innings batting leading to an indian voctory. i cant see that anywhere. perhaps you would be kind enough to point that out to me again. then use use stupid logic to counter my argument about second innings being not important. second innings is absolutely crucial to winning matches. that is when he has proved himself incapable time and again. sadly, you dont seem to realize that. all you want to do is take it out on anyone who criticizes your idol. the fact is that tendulkar has struggled a lot in recent times against quality bowling. all that struggle gets hidden or remains in the background whenever he manages to score a century after many innings of failure. again, i reiterate, i dont have anything personal against tendulkar. my point is that he isnt as good as he once was. and it is high time people realize that instead of clinging onto past glory. as for the accusation that i am running out of excuses to belittle tendulkar, all i can say is that his performances speak for themselves. you have different yardsticks for judging people. and when it comes to tendulkar, the yardstick is shortest.
RE:RE:tendulkar
by daisydaiisy on May 04, 2008 02:04 PM
it is true his performance got affected in 2004 and 2005 due to tennis elbow injury. he could not free his arms as much as he could before 2004 due to the injury and as a result he could not hit freely. still he recovered and came out of it and played wonderful knopwcks. that shows the mark of a true genius who knows how to adpat to challenging situations.
Arjun 'shivlal' yadav son of the 'great' so called shivlal yadav wanted to become a hero overnight by rejecting a two by bangar and trying to finish the game himself. He indeed finished the hopes of DC and people of AP in all. Please for the betterment of cricket keep these kind of players away. The Yadav sr. couldn't win matches for India so is his son.
it is better to suggest BCCI that this kind of pyjama cricket should be called more as a MINI BASE BALL TORNAMENT. jaffer, dravid lakshman, kallis, gangu r all still playing perfect cricketing shots. They r true cricketers. heros many r talking about here.. r playing some ugly looking shots....disgrace to sports cricket
The following Test playing players proved that they do not fit to play in shorter version of the game. Rahul Dravid, Anil Kumble, J Kallis, Saurav Gangulli, S Chanderpaul, R Sarvan, Chaminda Vaas, VVS Laxman, W Jaffer, Murali Karthik, Zaheer Khan, Muraleedharan,R Ponting and S Pollock. These players if dropped from IPL, the Tournament would become more interesting. With due respect to all of them they should concentrate in playing TEST matches only hereafter.
RE:Unfit
by Dinesh on May 04, 2008 10:53 AM
Hi this is the BCCI. Thanks for your valuable advice. We have taken note and will take the action as per your suggestion. Please keep the suggestion coming. We need brilliant brains like yours for the future of cricket in the world
RE:Unfit
by ben hur on May 04, 2008 11:10 AM
teue. strike rate of 150 for batsman, can b considered as good in this format. below 150 s/r may b okay or average. and in crucial situations, s/r of even 200 can b attained which shows one as a good batsman. and as for laxman or other players scoring with s/r of 120 (although very good for odi) is not sufficient when the required run rate is above 8 rpo ie. require s/r of 135.
RE:Unfit
by Dinesh on May 04, 2008 11:15 AM
Socring 6 of 1st ball and getting out in the next ball will yield the best strike rate of 300. If all 10 players do that the total will be 60 runs. And the match can then be called 3-3 over match. New format?
RE:Unfit
by sharath chandra on May 04, 2008 11:25 AM
mr.Raam why d`nt u suggest BCCI that this kind of pyjama cricket sho;d be called more as a MINI BASE BALL TORNAMENT. jaffer, dravid lakshman, kallis r all still playing perfect cricketing shots. they r true cricketers. heros u r talking about r playing some ugly looking shots....disgrace to sports cricket
RE:Unfit
by Dinesh on May 04, 2008 11:30 AM
hey they are not ugly man. It is so graceful when Dhoni does a gymnast kind of rotation for his pull shot or a cut shot which looks like a cook using a huge spoon to stir his dishes
RE:RE:Unfit
by ben hur on May 04, 2008 11:30 AM
its not just the strike rate. but also runs. however, my point is scoring 70 runs of 60 balls ie 10 overs vl not help any team much.
will be weak without their Australian players. Ponting, David Hussye, Afridi has disappointed; The oldies Wrane and Mcgrath have exceeded the expectations. Dravid and Laxman had to prove a point and Laxman has done better so far as a player.
RE:Rajastan has surprised; Hydrabad has disappointed; Chennai and Kolkatta
by ben hur on May 04, 2008 11:11 AM
ponting was super flop. afridi cant expect much frm him either.
