When Australia came to India in 2004,the Mumbai pitch in which the last test match was played had cracks and India won the match.Australia did not complain and said India played well.but these SA people are not able to digest the loss and so they are complaining to the match referee.SA are a mentally weak side.
RE:pitch problems
by Govind Raj on Apr 16, 2008 11:46 PM
Arun, you are wrong.
It is not the South Africans but the God of Double Standards Roshan Mahanama who complained. He and his team have thrived all these years on home grounds due to tailor made pitches. They have failed miserably outside Sri Lanka and only success outside Sri Lanka was in Pakistan and that against a disjointed Pak team. They have given some patchy performances in Tests over past 2 years. But during Mahanama%u2019s times, they were lions at home and a totally miserable lot out side of Sri Lanka.
Coming to your statement that Aussies did not complain about the Mumbai pitch is patently incorrect. The series started with a thumping Aussie win on a good Bangalore pitch. On an equally good Chennai pitch, India could have won the second test but for some really bad Umpiring that saved Aussies and the rains on day-5 with India having good chances of squaring the series.
Then due to the group rivalry in BCCI, the Bindra group gave a green top to Aussies for the third test. And Dada famously avoided playing the test. People derided Dada for this act. Dada did not miss the test because he was scared of fast pitches. He has done famously well on fast pitches against pacers before and after Mohali. It was because he was disgusted by the crab mentality of Indians. Which other country gives a pitch blatantly favoring opposition team? That too just because of internal politics. That was really bad taste. We all know how New Zealand prepares pitches that turn their a
RE:RE:pitch problems
by Govind Raj on Apr 16, 2008 11:48 PM
We all know how New Zealand prepares pitches that turn their average seamers into monsters. But then we blame our batsmen for not batting well. But if touring teams falter on our turning tracks, we blame our pitches. This is just totally unfair.
Well India lost the third test and moved to Mumbai. On a slow turner from day-1, Aussies had the upper hand till the third day. They needed only 107 runs in second innings to win the series 3-0. Ponting was not complaining till then. And suddenly Murli Karthik came from nowhere and demolished them in second inning to clinch a famous win for India. Ponting%u2019s statement after the defeat betrayed the real Aussie mentality. They are the worst losers in any game anywhere on earth and Ponting is the WORST SPORTSPERSON ever born. He went to the extent of demanding an inquiry about the pitch, saying it was really frustrating to lose on this kind of a pitch. He totally negated India%u2019s clearly superior performance. Aussies clinched %u201Cthe last frontier%u201D only because of favorable Umpiring, Rain Gods and the squabbling BCCI buffoons.
But Smith and his men did not complain about the pitch and actually said: India played better than South Africa. This is the real story. Smith is a million times better Sportsman compared to Dirty Ponting. In fact, it is an insult to Smith if we even compare him to the Champion Manipulator Ponting.
In Ahmedabad, the Proteas bundled out India within 20 overs. Is the pitch not responsible there. Both the teams played in the same pitch and it has to be taken in the right spirit. Mahanama is not able to digest an Indian win and ICC should not take cognizance of his findings. BCCI should reject the charges
RE:The same applies to Ahmedabad pitch also
by Kumar on Apr 16, 2008 07:50 PM
The Proteas, Mahanama, Ponting, the Aussies, the Aussie media, Hillary and Obama and all and sundry are unable to digest an Indian win. This is the most idiotic statement. Is BCCI the epitome of righteousness. The fact is we Indians are unable to digest any loss on the cricket ground. We are the ones who cry about poor umpiring, sledging, complaints, etc. It is as if the national honour is at stake. Dont be a moron, our cricketers are concerned about the money they make and not about anything else. Given a choice they will all opt to play in the ICL circus.
RE:The same applies to Ahmedabad pitch also
by sachin on Apr 16, 2008 10:25 PM
true. icc is biased. if ind wins the match in 3 days, its the fault of pitch and if the same team loses in 3 days like in ahemdabad, then its the fault of ind team? is bcci full of cowards?
If a Test match ends within 3 days respective Cricket Association and the BCCI is the looser by way of poor gate collection.
Also both trams played on the same pitch!! No two different pitches for 2 teams. Its level playing field only.
last time India visited New Zealand all test matches were played on under prepared wicket. It was assisting fast bowlers very well and being used to such conditions their batting was better than us!! Then no match referee commented on that.
Match can neither be suspended or abolished due to poor pitch condition etc., unless it is dangerous for the safety of the batsman.
Since Kanpur pitch was not at all come under the Danger category, there is nothing wrong in the pitch. If ICC takes any action or ban such stadium then it is just question of racial discremination!!!!!!!
RE:Kanpur Pitch
by rupak oak on Apr 16, 2008 07:33 PM
U idiot!! Nobody is saying that India won the match because of the wicket. Anybody could have won. And if India had lost the match idiots like you would have been the first to blame the wicket ( Just like u are blaming NZ Wickets). Where is the question of Racial Discrimination here? (Do u even know what it means?? ) If a wicket has uneven bounce from day 1, How is it that u say that its a good wicket? Did u not see how Dravid got hurt? Wickets abroad, even though heavily in favour of bowlers have true bounce unlike Indian wickets.
RE:Kanpur Pitch
by Ariel Katz on Apr 16, 2008 07:52 PM
I remember a few years back a match in the Windies (involving India, I think) being called off because it was too dangerous. How about complaining now?
In the recent past we have won matches quite convincingly in South Africa, England and Australia in their own backyard. Since no one complained we can assume that those pitches were not under prepared.
Then why do we resort to such practices, that too at home ? All for the sake of squaring up the series ? Lack of self belief, probably.
We want to see the Indian team win without giving guys like Mahanama (who has rarely supported team India) a chance to spoil the celebrations. M S Dhoni rewarded someone for not doing his job properly.
RE:Lack of Self belief
by All Right on Apr 17, 2008 10:45 AM
"For the sake of squaring up the series"?
That's rich, Mr. Addict.... That you seriously believe that a pitch can be laid out in one week time frame... :-)
You might seriously believe that there was a big hole in the middle of Green Park, waiting to be filled up with the right kind of mud - depending upon the result from Ahmedabad.... But that's how pitches are NOT made..... it takes ages to convert a pitch from what it is to what you want it to be.
Mahanama might spoil the celebrations 1000 different ways. Do you mean we should be caring about covering off all those points he or someone else can invent to complain? Who cares?
And I like your first paragrpah - "Since no one complained we can assume that those pitches were not under prepared.."... Your yardstick of right and wrong are dictated by others' responses or lack thereof.
Sri Lankans always hate indians, becoz they never got an opportunity better than us in career, wealth, currency, they are jealous of us.
Our prime minister Rajiv Gandhi was assasinated due to theses fools, LTTE & sri lanka, india rae not helping there dirty civil war so they are hating India for not supporting their terrorism.
They played like furiously when India was in 2007 world cup, becoz they want India down.
Bcci members r acting smart as they have launched IPL. All over the world know that BCCI rules the ICC as most of the income cums from INDIA. I request all INDIANS just Boycott the IPL series, learn the lesson to BCCI members
india developed fear of steyn and other african pace bowlers in first 2 tests. all biggies succumbed (leave brave ganguly) and sachin and kumble even runned away. thats y BCCI used tihs techniques and made spinner friendly wicket sot hat steyn and company cudnt do much. that y india hav very good record on indian soil. remember icc champion trophy 2006. that time india cudnt even reached in 2nds round just bcos all the matches were palyed on pace frindly wickets of mohali and brabourne stadium.
RE:fear of STEYN AND MORKEL
by Indian on Apr 16, 2008 07:22 PM
he is a bengali...... he rasgulas inside his mouth well normaly they have co ck as they are called co ck su cke rs .
RE:fear of STEYN AND MORKEL
by All Right on Apr 17, 2008 10:47 AM
Thats y BCCI used this technique and made spinner friendly wicket.... Hmmmm.... hota hai kabhi kabhi.. tujhse bhi to galti ho gayi na? Dinno Ahmedabad was a spinner friendly wicket...
