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When poor form ruled Dravid out


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Ifear paceman
What agression was this ?
by Ifear paceman on Oct 21, 2007 07:21 PM

Now what do the fans say on Captaincy issues?

The telegraph on October 8 th report says -------------
Assistant secretary Snehasish Ganguly
's role will also come under the scanner. There has been growing pressure from a section of the members for his resignation. Snehasish has conceded to having introduced Pradip Todi, younger brother of Ashok, to the police chief. He is also a director in their company.
It may be recalled that police had raided Todi's Burrabazar office in 2002 and arrested four persons in connection with a betting racket. Three computers and eight mobile phones were seized. Todi was interrogated by officers of the anti-rowdy section but was let-off.
Till late on Sunday, Snehasish neither took calls nor responded to text messages from The Telegraph seeking details of when he got involved with Todi.

If Snehasish's Todi links do go back to 2002, then the wisdom of his continuing to have business ties with Todi is bound to raise eyebrows as younger brother Sourav was then the Team India captain.


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Ravin
DRAVID: MADE SCAPEGOAT BUT IS TRULY A MESSIAH
by Ravin on Oct 19, 2007 12:27 PM  | Hide replies

How many people in contemporary or pre-historic cricket can we imagine who will unselfishly resign from the captain mantle in ODI/Test Cricket, and that too after winning a history making ENGLAND series after 2 decades? ABSOLUTELY NO BODY.
All his TEST HUNDREDS have helped in either winning ( mostly) or drawing matches and most are on neutral cricket grounds.
Do any of his critics recall that in the 2002 ODI world cup he scored maximum runs in the tournament as well as kept wickets? We lost in the FINALS. Short memory!!!
The trials and tribulations he has suffered and gone through, nobody else in International cricket has gone thru. But like always a PHOENIX he has risen from the ASHES.
Like the experts say%u201D CLASS IS PERMANENT AND FORM IS TEMPORARY%u201D.
He has proved it previously and will prove the adage again.
After all he is not somebody or anybody but RAHUL DRAVID.


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Starwar
RE:DRAVID: MADE SCAPEGOAT BUT IS TRULY A MESSIAH
by Starwar on Oct 19, 2007 07:29 PM
What kind of messiah ???

Dravid was a true politician when was captain ...Truth is Dravid backed Chappell during WC 2007 to betray his senior teammates...sachin,saurav,yuvi,zaheer..

RD is a selfish traitor who only thinks of himself...this was proven when he resigned as India captain without informing selectors..

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Ifear paceman
RE:DRAVID: MADE SCAPEGOAT BUT IS TRULY A MESSIAH
by Ifear paceman on Oct 20, 2007 12:49 PM
Captain Ganguly India South Africa

1st IND v SAF 09/03/2000 Nehru Stad. (Kochi),India won by 3 wickets

Now you can see Donald who was there in tests opted out,Clusner did not bowl but he was there in the squad.

Pollock,Kallis,N Boje did not finish their quota.
Cronje,Hayward,
Williams,Crookes finishing rest of the overs.

What was cooking up. Did South Africa wanted themselves to loose?

2nd IND v SAF 12/03/2000 Keenan Stadium India won by 6 wickets
What they are up against? same bowling despite earlier defeat.
Same bowling pattern.

4th IND v SAF 17/03/2000 IPCL Sports Complex India won by 4
wickets.

What is going on same bowling pattern. inspite of being two one down in five match series. This should be do or die match for SA. Same bowling pattern.

Real great captaincy by Ganguly and match management by Dalmia combine .He not only motivated Indian players but South African Players for India win . ROFL....


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Ifear paceman
RE:RE:DRAVID: MADE SCAPEGOAT BUT IS TRULY A MESSIAH
by Ifear paceman on Oct 20, 2007 12:49 PM
Now a report -------- Mukherjee%u2019s detractors are claiming that CAB Assistant Secretary Snehashish Ganguly ( Brother of Saurav Ganguly) and President Prasun Mukherjee were on the wrong foot of the ICC code of conduct because of their relations with Todi. Todi was investigated in 2004 for his alleged involvement in a cricket betting racket that had seen the arrest of six people who worked under him.

Second report --------------- Snehashish Ganguly%u2019s( Brother of Saurav Ganguly) statement on Tuesday that he had introduced businessman Ashok Todi to Police Commissioner Prasun Mukherjee after Todi approached him with a %u201Cfamily problem%u201D.
( World was knowing what is the family problem. And Snehashish Ganguly did not knew. How comw? )

Todays report ------------------. New Delhi, Oct 19 (IANS) The Central Bureau of Investigation (CBI) Friday registered a case against Kolkata-based industrialist Ashok Todi for the alleged murder of his son-in-law and computer graphics teacher Rizwanur Rehman in West Bengal last month.



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Suman Bhat
RE:DRAVID: MADE SCAPEGOAT BUT IS TRULY A MESSIAH
by Suman Bhat on Oct 20, 2007 09:14 AM
ganguly is selfdish oppertunist dirty poiitican a curse to team india
he ditched sachin to gain captiancy he ditch damiay and dravid
dravid is most successfulodi captian he classy test captain he did better job than ganguly in 2 yrs but was betrayed by his team senior members
sachin and ganguly are jealous of dravid's scuccess afgter WI win which dravid team got without ganguly and tendulkar
wC debacle is non performance of 11 player smain culprit were ganguly and sachin who never supported dravid's captaincy but promoted groupism against him

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Suman Bhat
what jayavardane and ponting said aobut dravid
by Suman Bhat on Oct 19, 2007 09:46 AM  | Hide replies

Dravid was among the three top batsmen in last series. The highest run getter in last three series were Tendulkar, Yuvraj and Dravid in that order. In the current series, no one except Tendulkar was consistent. It is good that you mentioned Australia. Gilchrist did not have a great run this swries but he was neither dropped nor his batting slot was changed. Rahul Dravid being asked to bat from number 3 to number 7 in ODI matches. It is simply unreasonable. Dravid is the most dependable batsman
http://cricket.expressindia.com/fulliestory.php?content_id=229348/
Dravid will bounce back: Jayawardene
http://www.cricketnext.com/news/dravid-will-bounce-back-jayawardene/27513-13.html
Dravid is one of the toughest competitors out there. He has been around for India for quite some time and it is obvious that after a few failures the spotlight would be on him. But I am sure he will show some character and bounce back strongly. That is what cricket is all about. You have lots of ups and downs. You just need to keep a steady head and go through the lean periods,%u201D he said
Player Mat Inns ;NO Runs Ave SR
RT Ponting (Aus/ICC)
194 186 21 & nbsp;7386 44.76 85.15
SR Tendulkar (India)
173 170 15 &nb sp;7132 46.01 83.51
R Dravid (Asia/ICC/India)
225 207 31 7115 40.42 72.40
Mohammad Yousuf (Asia/Pak)
211 202 26 7085 40.25 74.44
ST Jayasuriya (As

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Starwar
RE:what jayavardane and ponting said aobut dravid
by Starwar on Oct 19, 2007 07:30 PM
Suman Bhat is alive...long live kannadiga boorishness

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Suman Bhat
bcci/seection commitee has doube standard
by Suman Bhat on Oct 19, 2007 09:44 AM  | Hide replies

dravid is victim of dirty poitics of ind dressing room supported by strong mumbai lobby but no media/cric expert highight it
ask ind opening pair superstars and dhoni and yuvi to bat at any no in five innigs see the diff in performance and strike rate dravid performance as captain / batsman is recognised and rewarded by icc but he was blamed for many reasons he was not responisbe for and never got his share in ind media whatever he deserved. it happened to laxman kumbe and dravid sresant dropped for bad bowling but rp singh proved worst thean sresant. gnaguly scoring for self and gave more runs to opposition by poor fieding, poor running btn wkt and not wiling to take single he survived for 2 yrs as non performaing captian gr8 10dlkar never dropped for bad performance even yuvi and dhoni failed in this series and harbajan zahir failed and these player never dropped. bcci/selection commitee has diff yardstick and double standard for selection of players.
stat proved dravid is best in batting in odis and test and he did better job as captian just 5 failures he was dropped
if dravid had godfather media or cric experts would not hv gone criticising him when ganguy was captain he had dalmiay and survived almost 2 yrs non performing batsman nobody speak against him infact dravid and chappell blemed for his outset
Ponting surprised by Dravid's promotion to no. 4
http://cricket.indiatimes.com/News/News/Ponting_surprised_by_Dravids_promotion_to_no_4_/articleshow/2458224.cms


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unni nair
Re: bcci/seection commitee has doube standard
by unni nair on Apr 02, 2009 10:48 AM
leave him alone, He will perform and give reply to all. Now he maybe running in with some emotion, for all the expert giving him nice reward for His contribution.

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Ifear paceman
Clearly Ganguly is half a cricketer than Dravid
by Ifear paceman on Oct 19, 2007 08:51 AM  | Hide replies


Ganguly Record as batsman in ODI matches when he was Captain

(source:cricinfo & courtesy Sanjeev Verma)

Season Matches Average

2005-2006 5 15.40
2004-2005 8 19.50
2003-2004 16 27.46
2002-2003 28 41.50

Dravid record as batsman in ODI matches when he was captain

Season Matches Average

2006-2007 6 36.75
Dravid's worst more than double of Ganguly's worst.
2005-2006 22 55.88
Dravid's one of the best about 1.5 times of Ganguly.
2004-2005 2 52.50
Dravid's third one almost double of Ganguly's worst.
2003-2004 6 30.60
Dravid's second worst more than double of Ganguly's second worst.

Interestingly Ganguly has made up this by scoring against minnows and masala matches.
Ground fielding the wrost.
Running between wickets the poorest.
Showmanship the best.

Clearly Ganguly is as good as half a cricketer than Dravid.


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Starwar
RE:Clearly Ganguly is half a cricketer than Dravid
by Starwar on Oct 19, 2007 10:08 AM
This guy is a real moron...clearly loves the out-of-form Dravid ...so presents stats that are convenient

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Ifear paceman
RE:Clearly Ganguly is half a cricketer than Dravid
by Ifear paceman on Oct 19, 2007 10:54 AM
your vocab seems to be not beyond word moron...lol

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Starwar
RE:Clearly Ganguly is half a cricketer than Dravid
by Starwar on Oct 19, 2007 07:24 PM
You fool...wanted more vocab so here I go...

dimwit...idiot...bozo...joker.... monkey

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Ifear paceman
RE:Clearly Ganguly is half a cricketer than Dravid
by Ifear paceman on Oct 20, 2007 10:21 AM
that is only thing you know?

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unni nair
Re: RE:Clearly Ganguly is half a cricketer than Dravid
by unni nair on Apr 02, 2009 10:51 AM
Captain his as good as team, Why Austrila Struggle When They Have Super Captain Cheaty Pointer

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Manoj Tadepalli
dont get sentimental
by Manoj Tadepalli on Oct 18, 2007 06:11 PM

its time Indian cricket realised that it should go purely by form and not by reputation and keep playing out of form "heroes" of the past. These holy cows of Indian cricket have never really delivered, but seem to have big reputations nonetheless. Worse is their tendency to look at individual landmarks ( see the no of balls they use in their 90s) only to lose the match.

Get professional, don't be sentimental

Manoj

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raj mani
Dravid is Best
by raj mani on Oct 18, 2007 04:33 PM  | Hide replies

Look at the statistics. Dravid is best at both format of cricket..after scoring 10565runs in ODI.some stupid guys singing Dravid is not fit for ODI format..it's shame on u guys...he is is 5th player who scored most runs in cricket history..get some knowledge before talk about cricket..


TEST

player team       mat      runs hs 100       ave
BC Lara             131      11953 400* 34      52.88
AR Border 156      11174 205 27      50.56
SR Tendulkar      140      11150 248* 37      54.92
SR Waugh 168      10927 200 32      51.06
SM Gavaskar       125      10122 236* 34      51.12
R Dravid            112       9492 270 24      56.50
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SC Ganguly      96       5812 173 13      41.21




ODI

Player       mat runs        hs 100 ave sr
SR Tendulkar      398 15484 186* 41 44.11 85.47
ST Jayasuriya      401 12178 189 25 32.73 90.46
Inzamam-ul-Haq      378 11739 137* 10 39.52 74.24
SC Ganguly       303 11147 183 22 41.43 73.69
R Dravid            330 10565 153 12 39.86 71.22


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Suman Bhat
RE:Dravid is Best
by Suman Bhat on Oct 18, 2007 04:55 PM
very good analysis
dravid played most of odis in no 4, 5 6 or 7 position and he did not bat for 26 odis


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Mahendra Parab
RE:Dravid is Best
by Mahendra Parab on Oct 18, 2007 08:03 PM
Well Done Raj.

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renu nair
RE:Dravid is Best
by renu nair on Oct 19, 2007 06:16 AM
stats are not the most important at evey instance......he is going to cost the team everything if he cant seem to perform....he was given 5 chances and he didnt perform in any

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Ifear paceman
RE:RE:Dravid is Best
by Ifear paceman on Oct 19, 2007 09:31 AM
then those five innings are not part of those stats you mean?

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Starwar
RE:RE:RE:Dravid is Best
by Starwar on Oct 19, 2007 10:10 AM
Dravid is past history....no matter how much you rant and rave...so chill

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Starwar
RE:RE:RE:RE:Dravid is Best
by Starwar on Oct 19, 2007 10:12 AM
Raj Moron...your own stats tell that ganguly is better than dravid in odis...

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Ifear paceman
RE:Dravid is Best
by Ifear paceman on Oct 19, 2007 10:55 AM
your vocab seems to be not beyond word moron...lol

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Suman Bhat
if performance is critteria then ganguly, zahir, bajji yuvi do not deserve the pace shoud be dropped
by Suman Bhat on Oct 18, 2007 04:33 PM

standard against dravid and sreesant
by Suman Bhat on Oct 18, 2007 03:55 PM | Hide replies

Meanwhile, on match day, Dravid sat quietly in the dressing room and watched Murali Kartik spin a web around the Aussies yet another time at the Wankhede. Thankfully for the team management, Dravid took the decision sportingly as he even volunteered to go out with drinks during the first break of the Australian i http://cricket.indiatimes.com/News/News/Dravids_omission_ignites_debate/articleshow/2469232.cmsnnings
Dravid dropped, not rested
- I was a party to the decision, says chief selector Dilip Vengsarkar
LOKENDRA PRATAP SAHI
I%u2019m amazed how Dravid%u2019s form became such an issue%u2026 Had he been an Australian, there wouldn%u2019t have been any discussion and the think-tank would have backed him,%u201D remarked the iconic Barry Richards.
http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071018/asp/sports/story_8448000.asp
it happened to kumble and laxaman
southzone players also use political infuence to be part
sresant replace by rp singh who proved to wrost than sresant

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Avi
Breaking news !!!!!
by Avi on Oct 18, 2007 03:09 PM  | Hide replies

Dravid is planning to contest polls in karnataka elections ... He might well become the next CM of karnataka ... Very promising replacement for H.D. devegowda ... He has shown lots of promise in politics when he was the captain of team india under the guidance of Greg Chappel ... He did sooooo much politics with in different areas eg ganguly, Sehwag, Sachin, Pathan etc. ...
Hail Dravid and all the best for future engagements ...

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unni krishnan nair
RE:Breaking news !!!!!
by unni krishnan nair on Oct 18, 2007 04:29 PM
any captain will find very hard to win matches(spl test matches) without him. Ok remove dravid perfomance and give how succesful was ganguly as captain on crunch moment. for me hero in indian team will always remaim sachin & dravid, the way they help on the field (while bating)so called young cricketer nobody should have doubt about, he was there for any captain. but when his turn came, he is polticans. Our cricket fan thinks that only INDIA plays to win, others are only to make india win

UK Nair

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Suman Bhat
RE:Breaking news !!!!!
by Suman Bhat on Oct 18, 2007 04:37 PM
Look at Dravid''s performance in last two ODI series:

FYI-statistics of last two ODI series are:
Natwest Series
Matches Runs Highest Average Strike Rate
SR Tendulkar (India) 7 374 99 53.42 85.77

Yuvraj Singh (India) 7 283 72 40.42 86.01

SC Ganguly (India) 7 249 72 35.57 73.45

R Dravid (India) 7 223 92* 37.16 97.37

MS Dhoni (India) 7 175 50 25.00 72.31


Future Cup

SR Tendulkar (India) 3 200 99 66.66 77.82

Yuvraj Singh (India) 3 123 61* 123.00 78.34

R Dravid (India) 3 112 74 37.33 73.68

SC Ganguly (India) 3 73 42 24.33 60.33

MS Dhoni (India) 2 14 14* 14.00 93.33

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