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Ricky Ponting
Dinesh Karthik
by Ricky Ponting on Dec 01, 2007 02:22 AM  | Hide replies

Just about 3-4 months back it looked like we've found our opening pair for test but it's no where now.
I always felt Dinesh Karthik is not a natural choice for an opener. All the three innings so far, he caught out in the slips. I think he's not the long term answer for opening.
Due to this opening slot, he lost out his keeping to Dhoni, who tremendously improved in his glvoe work behind the stumps. I think this tour will be end of Dinesh Karthik's tenure, at least in this series as we have Gambhir and Sehwag cooling off their heels.
I feel sorry for Dinesh Karthik. He showed a lot of guts but he's short of batting skills. I strongly believe there wont be one more chance for him to prove in this test match at least.
Before the start of this test series, it was either Ganguly or Laxman, now it is Karthik.



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biswa pal
tendulkar the great
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 01:19 AM  | Hide replies

tendulkar should have played the line of the ball.even if he was not picking kaneria,he could have carried on if he had played him of the pitch or with a straight bat.he also could have employed the sweep shot.all you have to do against the spinners on this pitch is to defend the balls pitched on a good length and wait for the balls which are a little short.you can work the short balls of the pitch playing on the backfoot,this being a slow pitch.using the feet against the spinners would also be a good idea.as then the bowlers would tend to bowl a little short.players playing of the backfoot and using their wrists well would perform well on this pitch.

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Salil
RE:tendulkar the great
by Salil on Dec 01, 2007 01:27 AM
I think part of it was over confidence and partly becasue he was too eager to get to his 100 as quick as possible......
he didn't pick that googly at all...
other he played perfectly the way you said...sweeps, blocks...and hit short balls..


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Arnab Gupta
RE:tendulkar the great
by Arnab Gupta on Dec 01, 2007 02:02 AM
Easy to say while watching on TV, isn't it...
Why don't you coach SRT on his batting styles and the way he should play? He might get a few more centuries thanks to you...

(That was sarcasm... in essence, what I meant was: Just shut up and watch the cricket!)

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biswa pal
RE:tendulkar the great
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 02:05 AM
arnab,you jackass.this is a free country.everyone can have his opinion.if you dont like it get out of this forum.anyway i am not lecturing anybody.i only wanted to have a healthy discussion.i am also a great fan of sachin.

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aseem bhatter
RE:tendulkar the great
by aseem bhatter on Dec 01, 2007 02:18 AM
plz don't try to give lesson to Cricket God of India....he is playing frm last 17yrs...no other player in present time have so much courage n respect for the game...

Sachin is Awesome n He showed once agian why he is consider no 1 batsman in this world....

Congragts to Jaffar for his Splendid inning,he is in amazing touch....

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biswa pal
RE:tendulkar the great
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 02:20 AM
i am not giving lesson to sachin.sachin is the greatest.dont get me wrong.i was only trying to discuss this with sachin's fans.

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aseem bhatter
RE:tendulkar the great
by aseem bhatter on Dec 01, 2007 02:27 AM
dear biswa pal
u may be right on your point but thing happen in cricket no one is without flaws...but still we should take it in a ve manner rather than counting -ve rather the way to enjoy....

even i am also a Cricket Fan n Player n currently playing for a Local Cricket Club Of Melbourne....n my coches gives us example of Sachin's Techniques....Aussie hve GR8 respect for Sachin too...

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biswa pal
RE:tendulkar the great
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 02:34 AM
dear aseem.i am not counting negatives.i only feel that a great player like sachin could have achieved more.i am pained at sachin missing so many hundreds.but,he has done enough to be counted among the greatest of all time.i only want that he breaks all records and wins many more games for india.anyway,good luck in your cricketing career.

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aseem bhatter
RE:tendulkar the great
by aseem bhatter on Dec 01, 2007 02:46 AM
ya offcorse i agree with u on this point...
gud luck to u too...

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ACM
RE:tendulkar the great
by ACM on Dec 01, 2007 03:27 AM
Sachin thrills because he's mortal. Enjoy him for what he is. Actually speaking his cricket is not copybook technique - far from it. Lara is more copybook technique than SRT. Compare the footwork of these batsmen and it comes out real clear. Sachin is an instinct player and it's incredible what he's achieved thru sheer talent. Those drives look majestic because of the minimal footwork. But those drives also get him out a lot again due to lack of footwork. Just enjoy the genius for what he's achieved inspite of his big flaws both in the mind and in technique. He could have hit a few more centuries or won a few more games for India. The best part about Sachin is the amount of respect and love he and his brand of cricket has genereted for Indians and Indian cricket by admiring public worldwide!

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Achyut Bal
RE:tendulkar the great
by Achyut Bal on Dec 01, 2007 01:50 AM
"..being a slow pitch.using the feet against the spinners would also be a good idea.as then the bowlers would tend to bowl a little short.players playing of the backfoot and using their wrists well would perform well on this pitch.."

Why would you use wrists for a short (or created short) ball? Shouldn't you use your timing and either pull or cut?

Biswa - the point is - if you do not know what you are dishing, do not let the world know how stupid and BS you are. Stop your bullshit bingo now.

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biswa pal
RE:tendulkar the great
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 01:59 AM
achuta,you fool,i am not talking about long hops.you can pull spinners if they are long hops.playing of the backfoot you can play a forceful shot using the wrists which would be less risky.also,see todays highlights and you would find out how many balls have been pulled of the spinners.wristy players like laxman,saeed anwar,jaffer have been successful at the eden gardens.

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rajoo iyer
RE:tendulkar the great
by rajoo iyer on Dec 01, 2007 04:34 AM
hi biswa,
i never know that india has great cricketers like you who can teach sachin how to bat or what he shud have done!!!!!!!!!
sachin is the only player whose wicket is so priceless even for the best bowlers in the world to proclaim and you please reserve your expertise to train several useless players who are in the team.
Eating sandwich and writing thru this column is easier for useless fellows who cant contribute anything worthwhile in life and you are also one of those idiots. In india there are several stupids like you - so you dont worry about company.

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Minto
India is in a different league now
by Minto on Dec 01, 2007 01:18 AM  | Hide replies

The difference between PAk and India is astronomical at this time. Inida can easily score 700 runs against this PAK team. The demolition should be complete within four days even if Yonus and Yosuf click.

India's real opponent is AUS. India is definitely the favorite going into AUS. AUS has the weakest team in last five years while India has never been better. India in its current form is capable of whitewashing AUS.

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write tp
RE:India is in a different league now
by write tp on Dec 01, 2007 05:16 AM
would U care to explain why India lost to Aussies in INDIA by 2-4(would have been 2-5 if not for rain). That team was more or less same as what they are going to get when they go to australia in a month.

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Achyut Bal
RE:India is in a different league now
by Achyut Bal on Dec 01, 2007 01:52 AM
Dreaming is always good, being greedy is not. :-)

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Salil
RE:India is in a different league now
by Salil on Dec 01, 2007 01:22 AM
hold your horses dude :))

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biswa pal
RE:India is in a different league now
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 01:37 AM
'India in its current form is capable of whitewashing AUS'.comment is laughable.

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Minto
RE:India is in a different league now
by Minto on Dec 01, 2007 01:41 AM
People laughed when I said that India would win T20 WC. Time will prove me correct in few weeks.

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biswa pal
RE:India is in a different league now
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 01:47 AM
are you a soothsayer?

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Minto
RE:India is in a different league now
by Minto on Dec 01, 2007 01:49 AM
I will have the last laugh

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biswa pal
RE:India is in a different league now
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 01:53 AM
you certainly will have the last laugh.because you will wake up and find that you were dreaming.

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Salil
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by Salil on Dec 01, 2007 01:13 AM

our bench strength, unlike pakistan is really looks good...pak dont even have a repalcement for someone like Akmal...i think he is having worse series than what Parthiv had down under.
You cannot reply on one fast bowler so much that you want to get him in the team even if he is 70% fit.

In contrast...
We have 3 to 4 batting replacements who have already shown lot of promise in the limited opporunities they have got. Uthhappa, Gambhir, Sharma...not to mention Yuvraj singh.

Same in fast bowling department. Even if we dont have our first 2-3 choice fast bowlers (zaheer, sreesanth, RP)...our confidence will not be dented..we have someone like Munaf, pathan, agarkar who could step in..

perhaps same cannot be said about our spin department...take kumble and bhaji out..and suddenly we may look hapless...
Yes we have Powar and Chawala, but although they may look promising they are yet to prove in the big stage. But then again how can these guys prove unless they get enough chances...and this is where i think we have missed a trick. We have not done enough to groom quality spinners....



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Manian Vasudevan
Tickets confirmed
by Manian Vasudevan on Dec 01, 2007 12:55 AM  | Hide replies

Your attention please! We furnish below the Reservation Status of the Air Tickets of the Indian Cricket Team to Australia :

Wasim Jaffer - Confirmed
Rahul Dravid - Confirmed
Sachin Tendulkar - Confirmed
Anil Kumble - Confirmed
Zaheer Khan - Confirmed

Sourav Ganguly - RAC
Yuvraj Sing - Wait Listed

Dinesh Karthik - Cancelled



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biswa pal
RE:Tickets confirmed
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 01:14 AM
yuvi in place of sourav.

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Salil
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by Salil on Dec 01, 2007 12:53 AM  | Hide replies

We should have played 3 spinners, they have better chance of getting wickets.

Karthik should have been in, instead of Munaf.

Dont be surprised if Sachin gets an extended bowling run.

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Aurijit Sarkar
RE:....
by Aurijit Sarkar on Dec 01, 2007 03:11 AM
definitely would be interesting to watch sachin bowl his leg spinners on a wearing 3rd - 5th day eden gardens pitch. i don't know why, but i love watching sachin bowl his leg breaks on spinning tracks more than i like his batting! :)

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Jaffer no Talent
by on on Dec 01, 2007 12:49 AM  | Hide replies

U read it right..jaffer got no talent. Paki bowlers bowled loose balls to this guy..he made most out of it..i think i wud bring in shewag and gambhir instead of karthik and jaffer...Jaffer is good only for Ranji...

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Manian Vasudevan
RE:Jaffer no Talent
by Manian Vasudevan on Dec 01, 2007 12:56 AM
For your kind information Sir...Jaffer has scored centuries against all the teams against whom he has played a Test!

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Vasantgopal
RE:Jaffer no Talent
by Vasantgopal on Dec 01, 2007 01:00 AM
And Dinesh K has been most successful this year, just the last 3 innings have been bad. But he is a long term prospect for tests.

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Salil
RE:Jaffer no Talent
by Salil on Dec 01, 2007 12:56 AM
Lord,.. please forgive this person, for he knows not what he is is saying.

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Salil
RE:RE:Jaffer no Talent
by Salil on Dec 01, 2007 12:58 AM
Also just so as everyone knows...this i suspect has gone unnoticed...Jaffer is the 3rd highest scorer this year.

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Salil
RE:RE:RE:Jaffer no Talent
by Salil on Dec 01, 2007 01:00 AM
He has ammased 718 already...he is behind Jacques Kallis (1125) and Kevin Pietersen (881) so far.

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Manian Vasudevan
RE:Jaffer no Talent
by Manian Vasudevan on Dec 01, 2007 01:01 AM
Excellent info mate. Kudos. However, instead of feeding messages of single lines, you may provide all the details in a single message na!

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Palkar Beduko
RE:RE:Jaffer no Talent
by Palkar Beduko on Dec 01, 2007 01:06 AM
Why dont you also do some work,go to cricinfo, search for records and find out whatsoever you want instead of asking others

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biswa pal
RE:Jaffer no Talent
by biswa pal on Dec 01, 2007 01:21 AM
jaffer has performed very well.still got something to prove on fast wickets.i hope he does well for india's sake.

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kamran akmal the hero
by . on Dec 01, 2007 12:07 AM

for dropping sachin catch

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Flying Bird
Very well played
by Flying Bird on Dec 01, 2007 12:06 AM  | Hide replies

On January 28, 2003, Mumbai needed 127 to beat Himachal Pradesh in a Ranji Trophy match when Wasim Jaffer received news that his mother Zulekha had died. Jaffer was shattered and unsure of whether to play on the final day. Chandrakant Pandit, then coach of the Mumbai team who had suffered a similar fate, spoke to Jaffer of his experience to which Jaffer replied, "I'll do it for my team". He scored 47 off 51 balls as Mumbai won without losing a wicket. Only then did Jaffer leave to attend his mother's funeral.

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Bhogavilli
RE:RE:Very well played
by Bhogavilli on Dec 01, 2007 05:32 AM
copied from cricinfo

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