after continuing their dominance till the 35 overs, totalling 252-9 is a solid evidence of a pathetic batting by the Indian batsmen. Whatz more amazing is that its tough to find any other team that can make take its own blame to cause the difference b/w winning and losing.
I don see it a point to include Kumble in the ODI suqad. Leave it bowling, can't a bowler whoz played 250 ODI's claiming 300 wickets score quick-singles. Taking 4-5 balls to score a single and give strike to Dhoni MaDe ThE DiFfErEnCe !!
I wud luv to see a fighting-defeat than a taming-loss !! miserable indeed..
We need players like Collingwood, Sangakkara, Ponting, etc who remain at crease until the job is done. Not Tendulkars, Gangulis and Dravids. This is a bunch of losers. They never look like they are going to win a match even against a club team
Although it is very late at the close of World Cup, but India should replace Dravid from Captaincy before going to World Cup. See, how many matches he lost after during his captaincy, loosing rate is 80%. Bring Tendulkar or Ganguly as a skipper again. Dravid is most useless particularly in ODI or limited over games. Selectors should think of it very seriously.
RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by bharat on Feb 12, 2007 09:24 AM
Are we not being a bit too impulsive? If Tendulkar and/ or Ganguly fail in the next too matches, will you demand for them to be removed as well?
RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Feb 12, 2007 09:37 AM
Bhai Bharat, You are too much loving to Dravid. Dravid is too useless for ODI or limited over matches. Try to understand this. He is being skipping India last one year (not merely 3-4 matches). For the World cup India needs a Skiper like Ponting (AUS) or Smith (SA, smith even bit Aus chasing 439, all time record) or Lara (WI). And please donot compare him with Ganguly or Tendulkar. Ganguly is the most successful captain so far. And during Tendulkar tenure in past there were many hypocrtes (Azhar, Jadeda, N Mongia etc) involved in betting were in the Team made him unsuccessful as skiper.
RE:RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by Suman Bhat on Feb 12, 2007 09:45 AM
Two senior players who scored 10k runs in int'tl odi matches can play such irresponsible shots to get out cheaply? All cricket experts and commentories gave the same opinion. How Sangakara played the innings for Srilanka? I if india won the match many peopl would have told it is because of dada.Dhoni is No3 in ICC ranking he could not finish it. Dravid has been put under unnecessary pressure since some people would like to create an impression that he is a worse Capatin than Ganguly. Sataistics say something different. Dravid did own responsibility when India recently lost ODI match against WI. It seems that people have very short memory.Ganguly is performaing to make sure his place in team is safe but not for team cause.How he get out in SA when he scored 26 and 46 in second and third test. In SA it was Sreesant, DineshK, and Irfan who won match. During WI odi series dravid is highest rungetter with better average than ganguly. Dravid's odi batting average is better as captain than a batsman. How can you say he is not performing? Captiancy pressurer will be there when all players are not supporting. Some players play only to sure for their place in team. If you see the fielding you can see the difference. How Srilankan players supported his captain by giviing 100%. still team is ranked 6th now but dravid made captain it was 8th ICC odi ranking. Even ganguly had many defeats and how much success team had under ganguly captiancy within first 16 months.? ganguly was succesful b'zu of contributions of sachin,dravid kumble and laxman and sehwag. During WC2003 sachin won match against pakistan to take team to semis not b'cuz of ganguly's cpatiancy.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Feb 12, 2007 10:03 AM
Yes, Dhoni is #3 in ICC ranking. His average and strike rate is better than Dravid. Then why Dravid comes before Dhoni in the batting order ?! Another thing is Dravid's run average people account. what is about his strike rate? That is always lower than any top order batsmen. If opponent team scores more than 300, and Dravid's strike rate is 74-76%, then who will score rest of the runs (where team needs at least one run per ball). Other than Nagpur ODI where he batted in slog over in the first innings, Dravid is totally failed in ODI (donot consider his run average only). So, his attitude should be like Ricky Pinting (or Smith or Lara), otherwise Selectors (if he himself does not initiate) should remove him from ODI captaincy.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by Anindya Ganguly on Feb 12, 2007 10:01 AM
Come on Suman what u are comparing here is the battig skill not captaincy still. Nobody said that saurav is better than Dravid in batting skills.Both of them are great batsmen with dravid being the better one with better skills in TEST mathches. But it is true that saurav have the best captaincy ability among the whole bunch. And it's the credibility of the captain to make sure that he gets the right combination. So if dravid wins match shud i say that saurav played that's why , sachin played that's why or sehwag played that's why !!! To win mathches always people have to play or else how could one win !!!
RE:RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by bharat on Feb 12, 2007 09:57 AM
My dear friend,
If you look at Dravid's record long term, I have no doubt that he is good enough to retain his position in the Indian side. Certainly he can figure among the top 5 or 6 batsmen. You cannot write off a batsman of good track record in 2 or 3 matches. This rule not only applies to Dravid but also to the other batsmen like Tandulkar, Ganguly, Sehwag. We all know that Graeme Smith had a poor run against India in the first few ODIs, having become Zaheer's bug bear. Did the South Africans drop him?
We cannot have a team full of bang-bang batsmen. Steady players like Dravid have their own importance. In his intial career, Dravid was not suited for one day, but he has adopted his game well for one dayers and is well worth the money. Dravid is still one of India's best batsmen, be it the test matches or ODIs. The question of whether he should or should not be in the team should not arise at least for now.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by Anindya Ganguly on Feb 12, 2007 10:08 AM
Bharat for SA and Aussie players do show consistency.They also go through these inform offform thinks. But for India this form issue is like a cronic disease. Once one gets out of form everybody follows it. And I am not a creicket expert but I think it is the responsibility of the coach and Co. to make sure that things work properly. If players are sent back to doemstic games to regain there form on their own then what THE BLOODY HELL is that coach doing there. eating only crores of our hard earned money !!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by Suman Bhat on Feb 12, 2007 01:17 PM
check the statistics of last six years find out who contributed more to team's victory sacnin, dravid or ganguly. And ganguly was successful captain not b'cuz his leadership quality or agression but of contrbuiton of dravid, sachin laxman and kumble. He was non performing captain almost 3 years of his captiancy.
Ganguly's ODI record as a captain: 147 matches, 76 wins, 66 losses
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by melque thomas on Feb 14, 2007 04:47 AM
For this World cup We need captains like Pointing i accept but you guys are not understanding the fact..Pointing is good because has a team they are doing well. But India as a team are not doing well.In case of Australia if Pointing does't play well one match others play istead. I hope you guys understand the difference. Lets forget the past and lets cheer up India as the World cup is coming very soon.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Drop Dravid from Captaincy
by Uttamkumar Samanta on Feb 12, 2007 11:36 AM
Dravid does not have killer instinct like Ponting, Smith, Lara, Ganguly or Sachin. Just because of that he should step down or be removed from Captaincy.
An uknown player like me can be included in the team. I do not charge even a single paise. It can still make no difference in the performance of the team. .... afterall no body will have any expectations out of me. Am I right?!!!!! THIS SHALL STOP CONTROVERSIES THAT THIS TEAM PLAYS ONLY FOR MONEY
RE:I can play free of cost for the team!!!
by Yadagiri Madhav on Feb 12, 2007 09:10 AM
Selecters oosted ganguly for a year out of team. now they should oost RAHUL DRAVID,SEHWAG IMMEDIATELY...AS ALREADY THROWN OUT OF TEAM Like KAIF,LAXMAN,PATHAN,RAINA...Now they should join to make proud of this country ...TO WIN MATCHES THEY NEED THE FOLLOWING INDIAN TEAM - GANGULY,SACHIN,LAXMAN,PATHAN,YUVRAJ,KAIF,RAINA,DHONI,SREESANTH,HARBHAJAN,MUNAF,BALAJI...SEEM'S FORGOTTEN BALAJI WHO MADE IMMENSE CONTRIBUTION TO INDIAN TEAM NOT ONLY IN BOWLING BUT IN BATTING TOO WITH HUGE SIXERS....... in this why tendulkar is still there? becz he a master blaster....he know what he is...still making some decent contributions...he was too out of team for more than 6 month's...don't forget....he was back with a bang of big 100. now his consistency is average...neither it is too bad or too god...so need to oost too bad players....who r not making atleast 20-30 runs on an average..(rahul dravid,sehwag)
Sri-lanka is also a very good team, they are better than West-indies. Malinga, Sangakara, Jayasuriya are very good. I believe Sri-lanka will do good in the coming world cup.
It was a close game, no doubt Ganguly is playing well but Robin in the top order is not a good idea. Robin will struggle against the top teams overseas. What is Sehwag doing in the middle order, the man is india's best hitter, in the first 15 over india should try to get off to good start and Sehwag along with ganguly can do that.
Also Anil kumble should retire, he is old, choose someone else and let them learn. It's hard to believe that in india they don't have spinners except kumble and singh.
Ganguly, Tendulker, Sehwag, Irfan and Zaheer will help India win the world cup. India needs to pick their best team right now.
RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by Pravin N on Feb 12, 2007 08:00 AM
..having said that. like every year, how much aid are the 20 million people going to come to with a begging bowl to the 1 billion stupid people for next year? Mey be you should go to Norway this year?
RE:RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by patriot on Feb 12, 2007 08:05 AM | Hide message
after ur tamils messed up my country, its time u pay
RE:RE:RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by Navnit Narayan on Feb 12, 2007 08:35 AM
tats why u killed so many of "our" tamils in 1984 and still do....go get a life man....your team lost 6-1 last dont u rem...its a game dont make it politics well i guess ur economy does not have the capacity to give u a job so all u do is sit on the net write crap mr. sri lankan patriot....
RE:RE:RE:RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by Navnit Narayan on Feb 12, 2007 08:36 AM
and before i forget....ur mutiah muralidharan is a tamil too...if u feel so strongly...u shld not let him play for u .....he married a tamil from india too....whose side are u man...u pathetic loser ...do something with ur life then preach...
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by Anindya Ganguly on Feb 12, 2007 08:40 AM
ha ha ha very well said Navnit. I think the "Raksash" shud shut up now. Go to hell whoever u are.
RE:RE:RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by Ashish Sonik on Feb 12, 2007 08:31 AM
U are a person with a poor and small mentality just like your country, Please get the hell out of this message board coz people like you waste the time of genuine cricket followers. If you have to fight go and join your nation's army and show some courage against LTTE and then call yourself PATRIOT.
RE:RE:RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by Sharath Shivashankar on Feb 12, 2007 08:40 AM
You call yourself a Sinhala I suppose. But who are you actually? Just South Indians who migrated and converted to Buddhism and adopted idiotic names like Bandara, Lasith, Chaminda, ha, ha, ha! Again, if you sri Lankans are so superior, may I ask you if you have your own Infosys, Reliance, Tata, ISRO...? Do you guys do anything else other than picking and crushing tea leaves? And running from the LTTE?
RE:RE:RE:RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by patriot on Feb 12, 2007 10:13 AM | Hide message
the people who pick and crush tea leaves are all dirty indian tamils. oh, if u think having reliance makes ur country great, then of course, u dont know what is greatness.
As for Muralidaran is being tamil, he is ashamed to speak that language. you can search for it anywhere on the internet. By the way, the team that beat India was 100% Sinhala. The lion lives.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Lanka 1 Indian 0
by Umesh Srinivasan on Feb 13, 2007 10:37 AM
Muralidaran is a Tamil and he speaks to his colleagues in Sinhala because they don't understand Tamil.If he was ashamed of being a Tamil, why didn't he marry a Kandy lamissi instead of a damsel from South India.Confine your comments to Cricket alone and know the proper facts before commenting.Live and let live.
The People of India should select the TEAM INDIA for the World Cup... some thing similar to a ballot box should be placed around the country. a list should already be placed which says that the team should be selected from the list specified. Then the best person would be picked up.
Some people feel that Cricket is a game of one or two like tennis or boxing. It is a team game. If the team can not absorb the shocks and hiccups of losing set players and can not rise up to the occasion why there are 11 players. While countries like South Africa Australia have batsmen up to 10 down, we still look forward to only Sachin or Saurav to play all the time and all the balls correctly and bring the win for us. In a fanatic fan infested country like ours, logic is always kept in the rack. It is also a good ploy to shift the blame on Saurav and Sachin in spite of their performances as that is the only way to guard the failures of Dravid, Dhoni and others. These fanatic fans think honey, digest honey, utter honey and vomit honey.
RE:Bullshit in Place of Honey
by Mohan Kalyanasundaram on Feb 12, 2007 07:11 AM
True. Cricket is a team game. That is why we need to have performers in our team. Did Sehwag make any sensible contribution to the team in the last 2 years? Why is the captain, Vengsarkar, and BCCI keep him in the team as opposed to some deserving talents?
Sachin scored in the last two matches. Was he ever consistent in the last 12 months?
Our great captain Rahul Dravid has gotten into this dirty politics. He is not contributing much these days with him pre-occupied with high level politics with our selectors and BCCI.
Our team very rarely performs as a unit. Even in a circus, jokers perform together with great understanding. Here, our jokers do not understand team work.
The only way to improve the performance of Indian players is ban all the advertisements they are taking part , players have to choose either the game or the advertisemets, Secondly Indain board should only give their match fees in acse they are able to win otherwise let them spend from their own pocket, whether the matches are being held in India or abroad, players should spend the airtickets , visa , boarding or lodging themselves , in case they win, they will be refunded the same
