India has never lost a est match in which Ganguly has scored a century.
First Ganguly is incapable of playing on sporting tracks, bouncy & lively tracks & he cannot even reach 50 on such pitches, as it has been correctly mentioned that he has a very bad average to be called a batsmen against the great bowlers of his time. So the question of Ganguly scoring 100 in a match which was either played on lively or sporting pitches doesnt arise. He played in Pakistan in last test and scored some two 35's in both innings and India lost. That was a sporting pitch. Then how can we forget Ganguly getting a near groin injury 10 minutes before the toss in Nagpur where there was little grass on the pitch.
So if a batsmen cannot score 50s or runs away seeing the pitch is going to assist fast bowlers, how will he score a hundred in a match which India lost????????
He got numerous chances in these 10 years, if at all he was great, just show me how many runs has he scored and what average he has against the great bowlers between 1995 to 2006, or show me how many 50s he scored against them, cause those great bowlers use to win matches for their countries.
If a batsmen is only capable of scoring 100s on flat tracks & weak bowlers, surely either the match is going to go to draw mostly or one team will win. Though chances of results on batting tracks a quite less a&it is proved from Ganguly's record, 12 drawn 100s, 3 Wins 100s.
RE:India never lost a test in which ganguly scored a 100
by Sudipto Dey on Dec 22, 2007 03:11 PM
Please see the statistics before commenting. Ganguly has a better average in away tests rather than home tests. You guys are gangully haters but remember one thing, only people who are successful have haters like you. SO keep hating and Gangully will keep on piling runs :)
RE:India never lost a test in which ganguly scored a 100
by Sameer K on Dec 22, 2007 03:22 PM
Ok
What is his average in Zimbabwe, South Africa, New Zealand, Australia????
Except for England and WI outside subcontinent his average is not that of someone who shud be called a batsmen.
And his average against WI in West Indies became better after the retirement of Ambrose and later on Walsh, till Walsh was there Ganguly's average wasnt again like that of batsmen.
I think for you the team England of 90s, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka are world beaters and anyone who scores against them becomes great.
RE:India never lost a test in which ganguly scored a 100
by Sanjay on Dec 22, 2007 03:52 PM
oh really sameer....avg close to 40 is not bad...anyway tell me one thing what is a cricket bat made of???? i am sure u don't know otherwise u wd not have said the same
RE:India never lost a test in which ganguly scored a 100
by joydip bhattacharya on Dec 22, 2007 03:28 PM
Whatever you say , may be correct he has limitations as a batsman and he is not as solid a batsman as Dravid or Tendulkar.
But overall if you see his contribution to Indian Cricket , he has brought a new aggressiveness in Indian Cricket and a fighting spirit...I can assure if he would have been captaining teh side 2007 World cup would have been differnt (Atleast you would not see our best hope Tendulkar goinf to bat at number 4 , when he himself don't want to do so but our all powerful coach forced him to do that )...he will fight for his team and can egt the best out of them...and that is what required in a Team game...I will never say he is best of the batsmans.(I am a big fan of Tendulkar os don't think ganguly fan).but he has something in him....and his comeback and performing in this year has impressed me much..I can not remember any other ex captain in World cricket has played so well after coming back in the team....that really proves something....
RE:India never lost a test in which ganguly scored a 100
by Sameer K on Dec 22, 2007 03:40 PM
Hi Joydip
Guys like you in bengal are very rare. U r one sensible Bengali, offcourse in Mumbai there are quite lot of educated bengalis who damn give a thought of Gangu as great.
My tution sir in the 90s was one.
But due to what bengalis did after ganguly was sacked and then how the curator made a greenish pitch against SA and how the crowd supported South Africa, everyone around the world not just india saw it and that is why Bengali's got a bad name. Though i know there were 4 percent people in Bengal who had voted on STAR TV that Ganguly shud have been sacked due to his batting failures.
RE:India never lost a test in which ganguly scored a 100
by ganessin virappin on Dec 22, 2007 05:37 PM
hi i am not bengali. i am from pondicherry. I would like to say one thing about Ganguly's talent and compare with others here for ur reference.
Tendulkar - great test batsman, great ODI batsman, useful utility bowler, average captain.
Dravid - great test batsman, good ODI batsman, good captain.
Ganguly - good test batsman, Great ODI batsman, useful utility bowler, great captain.
All the above are proven facts. Ganguly is great legend in his own way. Dont underestimate others talent.
RE:Ganguly the Great
by Bharatkumar on Dec 22, 2007 03:03 PM
At present dada is No.1 in indian team your acceptance make no difference this time dada will emerge as the HIGHIST RUN SCORER IN INDIAN TEAM. WANTCH IT
RE:Ganguly the Great
by hindublogger on Dec 22, 2007 03:06 PM
Hope to meet you here soon :-).My money is on Sachin or Laxman.Sachin has been always number one in the last 10 yrs in the team.May be fanatic fans like you will not agree.Well what is your opinion about the Pak attack of the recent series ..?
RE:Ganguly the Great
by hindublogger on Dec 22, 2007 03:24 PM
Ask the leading bowlers around the world ..you will get your answer.Just what Lee said yesterday.
Just compare this Gangu's stats to Vinod Kambli whose career was destroyed due to regionalist Dalmiya who kept a useless test batsmen like Ganguly in the side and who became a TEST batsmen after 10 years of player test cricket(ie scored his first double hundred and completed 1000 runs first time, so he became a TEST batsmen finally, albeit needs weak bowlers n flat pitches).
M In NO Runs HS Avg 100 50 17 21 1 1084 227 54.20 4 3
4 hundreds and two double hundreds, 1 against England and 1 Zimbabwe. He was said to be not able to play short pitch bowling properly and once he failed against the WI in India he was sacked permanently so that Ganguly could get into the team.
In these 10 years, Ganguly has faired very badly as a TEST batsmen against fast bowlers, McGrath, Ambrose, Walsh, Akram, Waqar, Donald and Pollock, so badly that he averages less than 30 against these them and doesnt even boost of a single century!!!!!!
Now if Kambli got axed just cause he was found uncomfortable against fast bowling, then why was Ganguly kept in the TEST side for 10 years.? Both Sourav and Kambli should have got the same treatment but then regionalism comes first.
This is how Dalmiya screwed Indian cricket to keep his favorite ganguly in.
Anyways if by scoring 1 double hundred on a flat batting track against depleted bowlers, a batsmen becomes great, then Vinod Kambli is greater than Ganguly cause he scored 2 doubles and averages 54.
RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by Lotiya Pathan on Dec 22, 2007 03:12 PM
Oye, Did I read Kambli.. Is it Vinod Kambli.. Born in maharashta, played for mumbai.. never represent Bangalore.. Played few test for India.. Always out on duck..
Ab tera kya hoga re Kaliya ?? Kitne aadmi thhey?????????
RE:RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by on Dec 27, 2007 09:21 PM
Kambli could have played for the Indian kindergarten team.. he would have been a comic relief
RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by hindublogger on Dec 22, 2007 03:41 PM
Lotiya ..dunno whether you watched cricket in 90s or not ..or one of the bong who started following the game after sourav rose into fame.Whoever has seen kambli in the the early to mid ninties would agree he was supremely talented than ur Dada ..but talent has to come with a right attitude too right ..he lacked in that.Plus the add master politician Dalmiya to the scene ..all knows how he pushed his chamcha into the team.
RE:RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by hindublogger on Dec 22, 2007 02:44 PM
Bharat .dont abuse if you dont know the facts ..its a fact that Kambli was axed for Ganguly ..that too after being the second highest run getter in the 96 WC.Just compare the first class records of the two in cric info
RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by kissss on Dec 22, 2007 02:53 PM
Mind it but you are a big Fooool if you compare Ganguly With Kambli. Ganguly was also axed from Test & One Day Squads, but look now.... And his Captaincy is amaging... he is a true leader.... He deserve Being Captin again...but age matters. Still please dont compare a Prooved player with a player who was good by couldnt carry on.
RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by joydip bhattacharya on Dec 22, 2007 03:34 PM
if you say some one can spoil the career of Kambli even when Sachin Tendulakr(the most poweful and respected man in Indian Cricket for last 10 years) is his good friend and Kambli from Mumbai....then I ahve serious doubt of your comments..........So Dalmia has dropped him , but do you have any stats what Kambli did after that in domestic Cricket or did he try to paly in county (I guess he was there in some Hindi/Marathi movies or TV Serials)
RE:RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by hindublogger on Dec 22, 2007 03:45 PM
joy ..its a fact that kambli was axed in favour of sourav ..how else will you explain his expulsion in 96 despite being the second highest run getter in the 96 WC.Well he had some attitude issues too.And if you check the domestic records ..he was in supreme touch even after his expulsion.
RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by hindublogger on Dec 22, 2007 02:42 PM
Well its true Kambli was far more talented than Ganguly ..in fact on of the most talented batsman of recent times.But Kambli dug his own grave by his attitude ..and nor the so called senior/former players or the board tried to help him out.On the other hand Sourav had a good mentor in Dalmiya and was more level headed thatn Kambli.Also he is a more strong willed individual than Kambli.
RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by Sanjay on Dec 22, 2007 04:02 PM
AKS are u a human???? no i think a ALIEN.... Kambli ?? he is repairing cars at his garage..lol Ganguly and Kambli are like Prince & Servant....lol
RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by hindublogger on Dec 22, 2007 04:20 PM
Sanjay ..he was far more talented than Ganguly ..but he lacked other qualities like fighting spirit and determination ..which played a vital role in Sourav's success.
RE:Compare this to Vinod Kambli
by Starwar on Dec 22, 2007 11:31 PM
AKS...live in the present and stop spreading misinformation ...Kambli was an initial success on flat indian wickets but failed to perform outside India
However Ganguly has scored lot of runs last time we played in bouncy Australia and South Africa as well as seaming England consistently....
Ganguly is a person who scored more ODI runs than legends like Dravid, Laxman,Kapil...he is also India 6th highest run-getter in tests ..this records cannot be termed as a fluke...
Listen dada baiters u have done much damage to dadas name and fame but he overcame all hurdles and proved his ability to fight back. Now it is his turn you will just see him quietly, just quietly and amazingly.
RE:Lesson for dadas detractors
by hindublogger on Dec 22, 2007 02:35 PM
Dude ..Mumbai attack was better than this Pak attack.Lets not glorify.I admire his fighting spirit...but he is a batsman who has been hyped a lot.Like Sehwag he is another player who overcame their technical limitations by grit and determination.. remember he averaged below 30 against Pak which had a good attack all these years untilhe piled up runs against this ranji grade pak attack
RE:RE:Lesson for dadas detractors
by Starwar on Dec 22, 2007 11:34 PM
Hindublogger( or whatever your name is)...If this Pak attack was so weak why India were 60 for 4 in 3rd test...before Ganguly and Yuvi's partnership restored the innings..
RE:Lesson for dadas detractors
by salman nayeem on Dec 22, 2007 02:24 PM
he got into team wth the support of communist party of india.he is useless now he scored 200 against pak attack whch was worst thn a ranji attack.let him come here to australia lee and tait will mke him dance.
RE:Lesson for dadas detractors
by Sudipto Dey on Dec 22, 2007 03:17 PM
and your Dravid struggled against this "weak" pak attack .. so imaging how good dravid is ????
RE:Lesson for dadas detractors
by Rahel Hashmi on Dec 22, 2007 02:25 PM
sports man needs to play and prove his name.....not just by playing politics in team....everone knows that sourav lacks against fast and boucing balls...just imagine wut will happen in australia
RE:SACHIN TENDULKAR IS NOT A MATCH WINNER!!!!!!
by Sudip Halder on Jan 11, 2008 12:45 PM
You stupid, after scoring those doe he takes them out of the score board of the Indian Score Card and take home? U know the only bad thing of Sachin is that his contribution could not make India in winning matches, you may call it bad luck or the 8th wonder
RE:SACHIN TENDULKAR IS NOT A MATCH WINNER!!!!!!
by salman nayeem on Dec 22, 2007 02:13 PM
lothiya keep ur opnions and views wthn u.....u hve 0% cricket knwldege
RE:RE:SACHIN TENDULKAR IS NOT A MATCH WINNER!!!!!!
by Sudhir Liberal on Dec 22, 2007 02:46 PM
@ Salman: I guess u need to check ur cricketing knowledge.... Let them in play in Aus for 2 test matches before ,aking judgement... 1 test match will not be worthwatching as India playin aginst Aus without a practice match (literally)
RE:SACHIN TENDULKAR IS NOT A MATCH WINNER!!!!!!
by Rahel Hashmi on Dec 22, 2007 02:12 PM
Lote they r tigers on papers....they can"t play againt aussie attack
RE:SACHIN TENDULKAR IS NOT A MATCH WINNER!!!!!!
by Swaminathan Santanam on Dec 22, 2007 03:18 PM
maybe paper tigers. but in this century, the Gavaskar - Border trophy has been the most colsely fought and India has not really tarnished its reputation.
So, all you baiters. Hang on a bit and enjoy the game, if you understand the same. The nuances of the game are lost on people who don't understand the game.
RE:Great Dada & his detractors
by Rahel Hashmi on Dec 22, 2007 02:08 PM
DADA only knows how 2 play politics in da team...thats it.....he is dying 4 th captainship
RE:Great Dada & his detractors
by joydip bhattacharya on Dec 22, 2007 03:42 PM
yes , Dada is always in discussion , and that is what I noticed in last 10 years , People can not accept Ganguly...somehow he has acheived more then his batting ability (yes I don't think he is the greatest of teh batsman ,e xcept for 2-3 years in 1999-2002 ).. but he has acheived teh tag as the best ever Indian Captain......so people will always comment on him ... Even I have seen Ravi Shastri commenting a lot on him (shastri who was neither a bowler nor a great batsman but nowadays he seems to be the one of the top think tank of Indian Cricket)
RE:Great Dada & his detractors
by salman nayeem on Dec 22, 2007 02:07 PM
sourav's career will end in australia. 4 innings n dada's score will b first test 0&2 second test 2&0 third test 0&2 fourth test 2&0
RE:RE:Great Dada & his detractors
by joydip bhattacharya on Dec 22, 2007 03:43 PM
do ou think if he scored 0&2 and 2&0 in first two test he will be there in the team for the third Test??
RE:Great Dada & his detractors
by Bharatkumar on Dec 22, 2007 02:09 PM
dadas bhalla talked and proved his ability don't talk stupid dude he will become No.1 very shortly and BCCI will forced to re-instate him as captain of indian team
RE:Great Dada & his detractors
by salman nayeem on Dec 22, 2007 02:16 PM
bharath kumar dada's balla nvr wins matchs for inda,itz dhoni,laxman,pathan and zaheer who wins matchs 4 india
RE:Great Dada & his detractors
by Rahel Hashmi on Dec 22, 2007 02:15 PM
thats wut i m saying stupid bharat.....Dada is dying for captainship.....making centuries against team like bangladesh and kenya does"nt prove his greatness
Please watch the vedios, "Celebrating saurav"s 100" specail article dedicated to saurav by rediff. In that vedio, pls listen what Dravid, Sachin, and Dhoni said about great saurav !! If you are a fan of Dravid, Sachin, then pls follow to what they said abut my dada..
Saurav is light, saurav is motivation Saurav is sun, saurav is inspiration..
RE:Dada is simply great !!
by Rahel Hashmi on Dec 22, 2007 01:57 PM
lotiya.....Dada will b playing wid australia...so plz don"t expect ne centuries from him.....let india tour kenya and then we all will expect double century again from Dada
RE:RE:Dada is simply great !!
by Lotiya Pathan on Dec 22, 2007 02:05 PM
Dada is a great servant of indian cricket..
I am a great servant to the rediff msg forum, only write about sensible thought abt indian cricket and saurav.. but you wont understand those, bcoz ur thought represents how good u r !!
RE:Dada is simply great !!
by Rahel Hashmi on Dec 22, 2007 02:10 PM
Dada is not servant of india....he is only playing cricket 4 the sake of money that he gets from the board and moreover he is nota match winner
RE:RE:Dada is simply great !!
by Rahel Hashmi on Dec 22, 2007 01:58 PM
saurav ki jay karne se kuch nahi hoga.....first let him perform against aussie then u can say that....saurav ki jai
With reference to Sachins Statement , it seems the seniors in the team are well aware that this would be their last tour to Australia & want to make it big & if they are able to do so , we would have an exciting Test Series round the corner...DON FORGET CHECKING RECORDS IN THE RECENT PAST INDIA IS ON THE ONLY TEAM WHO HAS DRAWN A SERIES 1-1 during their last tour to Australia & COMPARED TO THE OTHER TEAMS could now be ranked as the best team in test cricket who could face Australia in Australia & give them a run for their money on their home turf....ALL THE BEST TO OUR GUYS....
With reference to Sachins Statement , it seems the seniors in the team are well aware that this would be their last tour to Australia & want to make it big & if they are able to do so , we would have an exciting Test Series round the corner...DON FORGET CHECKING RECORDS IN THE RECENT PAST INDIA IS ON THE ONLY TEAM WHO HAS DRAWN A SERIES 1-1 during their last tour to Australia & COMPARED TO THE OTHER TEAMS could now be ranked as the best team in test cricket who could face Australia in Australia & give them a run for their money on their home turf....ALL THE BEST TO OUR GUYS....
