just 4 months back India won a test series in westindies because of dravid.dravid was the back bone of the team when ganguly was captain.if u take out dravid's contribution ganguly's is captaincy record is nothing. grow up man.he has been the only consistent Indian player since 2000.and you are backing ganguly,hahahha.we will see how well he play in tests.if he doesn't play well in tests,his acccount will be closed forever.because of some political pressure he is in the team.Real talent and hardwork never die.Dravid will sure bounce back.its not new for him.as far as captaincy is concerned,number of wins doesnt matter,india won a test series outside subcontinent when dravid was captain.
RE:scoring 83 in a tour match means nothing
by vvs on Dec 13, 2006 12:05 PM
Hey u urself said that Dravid is playing good from 2000. If you are keen follower of cricket you should know how he used to play before. Its Ganguly who gave him confidence and support and that is why Dravid is playing good. No doubt he is a class player but sorry to say that he cant be a good leader. Scoring 83 in a tour match means nothing, but it means a lot when team is performing poorly and those 83 runs gave us confidence. Please praise the good things without being bias.
IF you want to give credit to Chappel for all the success in the early phase, than you must also blame him now. When India was doing well with Dhoni and Patham blossoming with Dravid maintaining his consistency I was wondering why the whole credit was going to Chappel. In my opinion, Chappel was given too much stardom by us as well as selectors and BCCI. No coach was allowed to dictate the selection and being instrumental in ousting some players altogether. It was our slavish mentality because of which we admire any special skin. In the same slavish direction, BCCI ignored the likes Mohinder Amarnath who had enough experience in handling fast bowlers and could have guided our batsmen in handling the unending weakness against fast bowling.If Chappel was GOD in the beginning, than he is devil now for the same reason.
The coach must be changed first of all, because he is the grassroot for the problems the cricket team India facing now, its take originate when the quqrrel started bet Dada and this chappel. Isn't it? Did Ganguky made any mistakes, no not at all. Shewagh he is not playing a cricket at all from the past nine months but he is still in the team, in the same way why not Ganguly. one thing Ganguly must be in the team to World cup, If India to win that World cup 2007, otherwise the team will be watching the Quaterfinal matches by sitting with their families in their homes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!its sure you can make a note of it!!!!!!!!!!!!1
The statement only reflects the extent to which our Cricket Administrators are in to politics and how easily and readily they shift the blame on our players.
Let's ask some simple questions to unravel what Mr. Niranjan Shah has tried hiding behind a simple statement.
Who decided appointment Chappell? BCCI. Who accorded power to Mr. Chappell in selections matters and other matters of the team? BCCI. What is the function of a coach? Coaching. What does coaching involve? Training the players. What do you train the players for? Playing skills... and mental skills in the context of the game, in the context of the expectations that the fans and the whole country have, in the context of the outcome that is desired of a sporting team.
Now should Chappell take the blame or not... Indeed, they are the players who have to play the game actually and execute whatever the strategy is to perform well and win. But who has the big hand in deciding what to do. If someone says that Chappell did not have a say, he is fooling himself and many others who believe what he says.
I am not trying to derogate Chappell. Let's just to see through the maze of words and face the reality instead of avoiding it
RE:Cricketing Rhetoric
by R.A.Krishna on Dec 11, 2006 08:41 AM
How does one decide that a captain is aggressive? By waving his shirt and cursing players? Ganguly was chewing his nails most of the time. Was that aggression? A captain or coach can only be as good as his players. If bowlers do not land the ball on the spot, if fast bowlers stay in the early 120s and everyone covers his backside, can the coach or captain do anything? Form is temporary and class is permanent. Only Yuvi among the recent players and Sehwag have class. One of them is injured and the other is not scoring. Sachin has class but is not scoring. Considering his position, can one blame the coach or captain for his failures? Dravid is a class player and he is focused as well as analytical. It is a matter of time before he bats well and comes good with his analysis and takes proper steps. Laxman is one more player with class as also Ganguly. You can be sure that these players will perform in the tests. Cricket is a relentles demon and these players are supposed to perform day in and day out. I am sure that they are aware of the expectations and will come really good in the World Cup. They can afford to lose a few minor battles but if they win the war, all will be forgiven!
i think rahul dravid is more resposible for indian cricket team poor sho in s.a. he fail to motivate and create team sprit in the players. his boady languge on the field was very negative and tried during odi series. he lacks the passion and aggresiveness , require for captain. what chappel can do, he can suggest and guide but can play.
Niranjan Shah is one of the many jokers filling up the present Board, and has practically no knowledge whatsoever of Cricket and its nuances. It is true players do need to be pulled up when they are not playing well, but that does not mean that the Coach is to be totally absolved of any blame. It seems that the mean-minded and malicious Chappell has filled the ears of this joker (as well as well as of some other jokers of the Board) with so much of anti-Dalmiya poison that Shah has become blind to the incompetence and failings of the schmuck Aussie. Chappell might have been a good player but he was a miserable failure as a Coach of his home state in Australia. Both Dalmiya and Ganguly must be kicking themselves for having backed this incompetent fellow. Shah knows only too well that if Board criticises Chappell, it will be creating problems for itself. Therefore, he finds it expedient to pass on the ENTIRE blame to the players. Since it is pretty clear that it is not possible to throw Chappell out till his Contract runs out, the Team would be better off ignoring the existence of Chappell. The Captain should consult the senior members of the team and take decisions on his own
It is difficult to understand how a team that could make 525 in Adelaide and 700 in Sydney and over 400 in Melbourne start to fail so much. Sehwag, Tendulkar, Dravid and Laxman starting to do poorly cannot all be coincidence. The coach has to be culpable. The top order needs to get its act together but the coach is to blame also. We have seen such a string of zeroes from Wasim Jaffer that it is not even funny. We are now going to go into the test with Gambhir opening after no practice, Sehwag out of form, Dravid back after injury, Sachin facing a poor streak, Ganguly ok in patches, Laxman not back to full form, Dhoni a little off color. We are again going to have to rely on Pathan for good batting, and yes, our old man Kumble. Good that the bowlers are doing well in these conditions.Hope Munaf is back and Zaheer does well.
If Chappell should not be blamed for the poor perfromance of Indian in South Africa then chappell should not have any say in the team matters. If it is OK for Chappell to recommed a player, in this case Ganguly,to be dropped from the team then he should take the responsibility fully for the bad performance.Normally a coach should only help to a given set of players with tips of finer points in batting and bowling and assist in their stance and grip to achieve better perfromance. If a coach acts as the chairman of the selection comittee then he shold step down from the position for the team poor performance.
