RE:for the boston punekar;
by BostonPunekar on May 01, 2007 10:41 PM Permalink
there are other sucessfull stories also u may want to read.
1>> Sucess of the dacoits in the Chambal valley in the bundelkhand region to hold the entire state machinary hostage and law of India does not hold valid.
2>> Sucess of the Paki Militants in Kashmir valley for suvessfully displacing all of the Kashmiri Pandits from the valley.
3>>Sucess of the Rebels in the Norteast to make sure no economic activity ever runs sucessfull there.
4>>Totally ignoring the supreme court in india on the 49% reservation law, totally ignoring the constitution on its non discription on OBC's and convinently ignoring the 10 year reservation limit set by none other than the champion of backword classes Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar, that reservations should not continue beyond 10 years.
Now you want me to see the text that explains how prowdly Tamilnadu breaks the law? how prowdly Tamilnadu ignores Supreme court and disrespects law?
and how prowdly Tamilnadu discriminates against a particular caste of people??
RE:for the boston punekar;
by Sriram Vanamamalai on May 01, 2007 10:34 PM Permalink
You cant call it a success after driving out most of your competition out of the state. That shows that you are incompetent and scared bunch of cowards
RE:for the boston punekar;
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 10:40 PM Permalink
how were they driven out? in droves? theres a limit to falsehood. truth will triumph. u r close to calling it ethnic cleansing. in that case,u would probably have some evidence in hand.
To all Brahmin Bashers and Similarly to all SC/ST/OBC Bashers as well as to religion bashers such as Hindu Bashers, Muslims Bashers, Christian Bashers etc. and caste bashers . To all Hindi Speaking Bashers as well as to all Tamil Speaking Bashers as well as to all other regional language speaking bashers To all religious chauvinists, to all caste chauvinists, to all linguistic chauvinists,to all regional chauvinists.....
STOP BALKANIZATION OF INDIA!!!!!
SHAME ON YOU!!!!!!
This isn't the land of Slobodan Milosovic, don't make it one!!!!
I know some people want to keep on abusing others and want to get away with it and if somehow someone complains then they try to stop him from doing so or shout him down similar to Hitler's SS. It is just one example of the nazification/talibanization/balkanization this country is heading towards. People here are targeting communities believing what great service they do to their kins not realizing that targeting any community in itself is a great disservice to the country and to their community itself.I don't want my country to have several partitions on communal,casteist and linguistic-regional lines, but with all this going on, I can only look in dismay as to what my country is slowly turning into. A great disservice to the country is being done by this balkanization process and seems loyalties from India have now narrowed down to local affiliations,there seems to be no patriotism left!!!! It just seems to be a Feudal structure waiting to erupt similar to what happened in 47!! Shame on all those who think what great deeds they do by abusing people, those who think that their local loyalties are far greater than this country and that the country can be compromised at any cost to fulfill their wishes and give vent to their prejudices.If you have any sanity left, come to your senses!!!!
RE:India is not Yugoslavia for God Sake!!!!!!
by Sriram Vanamamalai on May 01, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
All that is fine why do you kep abusing the space by pasting the same message over and over again?
RE:India is not Yugoslavia for God Sake!!!!!!
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 10:18 PM Permalink
that message can be repeated a million times. r u feeling guilty somewhere sriram. it surely does not hurt to read it.
RE:India is not Yugoslavia for God Sake!!!!!!
by Sriram Vanamamalai on May 01, 2007 10:24 PM Permalink
Dinesh man Grow up dude or should I say dud you make your point once By abusing the space you only avoid people reading from the real ones. Its really annoying to scroll all the way down to read any new comments. After This I am not going to respond to you as I am not a DUD like you to abuse space.
RE:India is not Yugoslavia for God Sake!!!!!!
by Akash on May 01, 2007 10:32 PM Permalink
Sriram I paste the same message over and over again for one simple reason and perhaps you know why. People are crazy and times are strange, I'm locked in tight, I'm out of range,I used to care but things have changed.I hurt easy I just don't show it, you can hurt someone and not even know it, the next 60 seconds could feel like eternity... words by the famous singer Bob Dylan. When people think they are supreme,when they think, things ought to be as they want it to be, when everyone seems to them a stranger on the prowl, insanity leads the way. When I say what I say, people don't listen and some say nay,to fight and keep on fighting and keep everyone at bay, that's one hell of a dilemma that Me and the likes of me face, when people shout and suffering takes place, it takes the better of a lot of people. When people swim in a pool of hatred and for them that's the world they prefer,they drown deep into it slowly and no one is there to rescue. for hatred shall only lead to hatred and everyone will be caught in the tide and then I shall emerge to rescue them and bring them back to light, hail me for I am the one who rescues and does not stop, who speaks from conviction like the trickle of the first rain drop, that I shall rescue those around me who drown, for that's my duty and I shall do so again and again
By then the %u201CCommunal GO%u201D was challenged. In 1950, two litigants, Shanbagam Duraiswamy, and CR Srinivasan approached Madras High Court, stating that they were denied admission in the medical college because of the state%u2019s education policy. Duraisamy claimed that she had applied in a medical college but could not get admission. Her case was argued in court by Alladi Krishnaswamy Iyer, a former Attorney General who was also a member of the Constituent Assembly. Srinivasan, whose case was represented by a retired judge, VV Sreenivasa Iyengar, stated that he could not get admitted despite having an engineering degree as he was a Brahmin. Madras High Court accepted the arguments and struck down the GO, stating that it went against Article 29 (2) of the Constitution. (No citizen shall be denied admission into any educational institution maintained by the state or receiving aid out of state funds on grounds only of religion, race, caste, language or any of them). The Supreme Court also upheld the High Court verdict. Later, it turned out that Duraiswamy had not even applied for admission in a medical college in 1950 and had completed her BA in 1934. The wide protests in Tamil Nadu following the Supreme Court verdict led to the first constitutional amendment ~ an addition of another clause in Article 15 (prohibition of discrimination on the basis of religion, race, caste, sex and place of birth) and restored reservation in the state. The added clause said that a state shall not be prevented from making special provision for educationally and socially backward classes, including SCs and
RE:for the bostonpunekar;
by BostonPunekar on May 01, 2007 10:14 PM Permalink
you are forgetting 3 things very convinently wihch the constitution has said and when I say those u will unfortunately will have to eat your own words.
1>>Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar in the constitution had said that reservation be given for SC's and STs for 10 years only. And that it be discontinued after 10 years after they are implemented.Its 60 years after the reservation policy and its still being continued..so tell me what is unconstitutional, following what is given constitution , or convinently ignoring whats there for own selfish gains.
2>> Reservation was to be given to untouchables and that had included the SC's , the B.C's and the ST's. There is absulutely no mention whatsoever of OBC's in the constitution. O.B.C's were added as a conviniently and electoraly suitable class to gain political milage. OBC's were never untouchables.
3>> Reservation should never increase the 50% mark is what the constitution says.How can you have 89% reservation?? So making 89% percent reserved seats how are you following the constitution????
I really feel so soory for you. Now you have to eat your words...!
RE:for the bostonpunekar;
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 10:22 PM Permalink
hey,how removed from reality are u. reservation for the other backward classes is provided in the constituion. everything that has been done has been done in parliament . is the dmk alone in parliament? every party from every state in india has voted for the continuation of reservation. does that make any sense to u?
RE:RE:for the bostonpunekar;
by BostonPunekar on May 01, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
nowhere in India does reservation exceed 49%.
It is only only only only only in Tamilnadu that it is 89%.
Its is totally a unconstitutional activity and you may google to find out the umpteen Supremne court judgements that have clearly stated that by constitution reservation cannot exceed 49% anywhere in the country..(which obviously means India).
So nothing of sort that permits reservation exceeding 49% has ever taken place as a law in the Parliament of India.
Tamilnadu on its own continues to disobey the law and continues to have 89% reservation.
RE:for the bostonpunekar;
by Sriram Vanamamalai on May 01, 2007 10:29 PM Permalink
Does it make sens to you that by seeking reservation you only take the nation backward. Who cares that will be your attitude. You guys want everything free. Does hard work mean anything to you at all? Oh I know you cant compete you lack the instinct and afraid of competition is that right Mr Dinesh. If not prove to the world. If not for these fractured policies and empty minds India would have gone way far ahead. Look at Japan they were destroyed yet they were able to bounce back because there is no selfish group out there seeking RESERVATIONS.
The periyar way of reform is self-defeating. By focussing only on the sorry aspects of Hinduism all it does is help the Missionary-Marxist-Mullah cabal. The problem with people like Periyar is that they do not compare Hinduism with other religions in a temporally even scale. The Christians and Muslims advocated slavery for a long time, civil rights for coloured people were not equal in the USA until the late 1960s. Hinduism has much better scope for reform, most of the reform came from Hindus themselves. This fact is visible even now. The Gandhian way of reform is much more prudent. Although still not ideal it will be less self-defeating than the Periyar way. With the periyar way, in the name of reform, a lot of smart people have been denied equal opportunity. This is not reform, it is reverse-discrimination!!
RE:self defeating
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 10:02 PM Permalink
so according to u,the scheduled castes should have waited for the ideal method to have been evolved insted af hastily embracing other religions.
RE:self defeating
by BostonPunekar on May 01, 2007 10:11 PM Permalink
you are forgetting 3 things very convinently wihch the constitution has said and when I say those u will unfortunately will have to eat your own words.
1>>Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar in the constitution had said that reservation be given for SC's and STs for 10 years only. And that it be discontinued after 10 years after they are implemented.Its 60 years after the reservation policy and its still being continued..so tell me what is unconstitutional, following what is given constitution , or convinently ignoring whats there for own selfish gains.
2>> Reservation was to be given to untouchables and that had included the SC's , the B.C's and the ST's. There is absulutely no mention whatsoever of OBC's in the constitution. O.B.C's were added as a conviniently and electoraly suitable class to gain political milage. OBC's were never untouchables.
3>> Reservation should never increase the 50% mark is what the constitution says.How can you have 89% reservation?? So making 89% percent reserved seats how are you following the constitution????
I really feel so soory for you. Now you have to eat your words...!
RE:Anti Brahmin movement in TN has resulted in a silent forced migration of TamBramns outside of TN.
by dinesh kumar on May 01, 2007 09:56 PM Permalink
the reservation for other backward castes is sanctioned by the constitution.is the constitution a racist document?
RE:Anti Brahmin movement in TN has resulted in a silent forced migration of TamBramns outside of TN.
by BostonPunekar on May 01, 2007 10:11 PM Permalink
you are forgetting 3 things very convinently wihch the constitution has said and when I say those u will unfortunately will have to eat your own words.
1>>Dr Babasaheb Ambedkar in the constitution had said that reservation be given for SC's and STs for 10 years only. And that it be discontinued after 10 years after they are implemented.Its 60 years after the reservation policy and its still being continued..so tell me what is unconstitutional, following what is given constitution , or convinently ignoring whats there for own selfish gains.
2>> Reservation was to be given to untouchables and that had included the SC's , the B.C's and the ST's. There is absulutely no mention whatsoever of OBC's in the constitution. O.B.C's were added as a conviniently and electoraly suitable class to gain political milage. OBC's were never untouchables.
3>> Reservation should never increase the 50% mark is what the constitution says.How can you have 89% reservation?? So making 89% percent reserved seats how are you following the constitution????
I really feel so soory for you. Now you have to eat your words...!
RE:Anti Brahmin movement in TN has resulted in a silent forced migration of TamBramns outside of TN.
by Paddu Iyer on May 02, 2007 01:07 AM Permalink
"Now I am Intelligent enough", seems like you need some work to do dude to make that claim.
RE:Vote BJP
by Purohit Sharma on May 02, 2007 09:09 AM Permalink
You swear by Bharath Matha and embrace American Yanki! good joke indeed,you pose as wholesale traders of patriotism and dream of a heaven in Canada!
I THINK YOU ARE ONLY EDUCATED ON THE MATERIAL LEVEL ACHIEVEMENTS(non-ACHIEVEMENTS) OF THE INDIANS. BUT YOU DID NOT GET TO KNOW ABOUT THE TRUE VALUES OF THE INDIANS. THE SPIRITUAL VALUES THAT WERE TIMELESS AND SINCE VEDIC TIMES TILL NOW, POWERING THE COUNTRY TO MOVE AHEAD IRRESPECTIVE OF NO MATTER WHAT PROBLEMS WE MAY FACING AT THE MATERIAL LEVEL. IF YOU REALLY WANT TO KNWO IN SIMPLE TERMS THE MAGNANIMITY OF THE INDIAN SPIRITUAL VALUES, HERE IS WHAT I CAN SAY: SO FAR THE REST OF THE WORLD HAS SEEN ONLY ONE LORD JESUS CHRIST OR ONE PROPHET MOHAMMED OR VERY FEW SAINTS OF SUCH STATURE. BUT, INDIA HAS PRODUCED CHRIST LIKE OR KRISHNA LIKE SAINTS IN ALMOST EVERY GENERATION WITH NO EXCEPTION. SUCH IS THE POWER & MAGNANIMITY OF THE VEDIC SPIRITUAL VALUES. EVEN IN SCIENTIFIC LEVELS, VEDIC KNOWLEDGE WAS AT THE ABREAST OF THE WORLD.
THE MATERIAL LEVEL SUFFERING THAT WE UNDERGO IS ONLY DUE TO THE LAST 1000 YEARS OF FOREIGN RULERS, WHO LOOTED AND PERSECUTED INDIANS AND EVEN DIVIDED THE VAST INDIAN COUNTRY TO PIECES. PRIOR TO THAT, INDIA WAS FULL OF WEALTH AND PROSPERITY. AND THIS OUTSIDERS CAME TO INDIA PURELY BECAUSE OUR KINGS WERE YIELDING TO WORLDLY PLEASURES, FIGHTING AMONG THEMSELVES AND WERE GETTING WEAK TO THE OUTSIDERS.
IF YOU REALLY REALLY WANT TO KNOW SUCH MAGNANIMOUS VEDIC SPIRITUAL VALUES AND KNOWLEDGE, THAT HAS BEEN PRODUCING KRISHNA OR CHRIST LIKE SAINTS IN EVERY GENERATION, PLEASE READ THE BOOK "AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI" BY SWAMI PARAMAHAMSA YOGANANDA. HERE IS THE FREE ONLINE COPY.
RE:DEAR HUMANIST
by Raju Puducode on May 01, 2007 08:51 PM Permalink
See the greatness of Indian Vedic culture which the westeners/western educated have tried to downplay & belittle. We should be proud of our great heritage: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7678538942425297587&q=scientific verification of&hl=en
Brahmins are very good & shrewd people. They don't themselves involve in any bad things. Who said there is caste system. It is the people who themselves took some parts & do it themselves. Example, HAIR CUTTING, specific people doesn't want others to be in the field. TEMPLE PRIST, specific people doesn't want others to compet in that field. So, they did some arrangement between themselves not to mingle w/ other people's work. Later competition avoiding measures were were termed as caste etc.
RE:Brahmins are very good & shrewd people.
by Paddu Iyer on May 02, 2007 01:12 AM Permalink
This idiotic logic proves that Brahmins and shrewdness do go together
