Whenever there is a discussion about armed forces,only matter regarding officers are higlighted which is much impressing to general public. Why don't you people having Excellent editorial experience say something about PBORs (Personnel Below Officer Rank) which are major fighting component in any arned forces???
Re: WHAT ABOUT OTHER CLASSES IN DEFENCE MAN????
by Maximus Meridius on Jun 29, 2009 11:30 AM
There's a big shortage of commissioned officers (requires a bachelor degree). No such shortage for foot soldiers. It's the same reason why S. Ramadorai or Nandan Neelekani get the credit for all the work the poor codemonkey trapped in his cubicle does...
Re: WHAT ABOUT OTHER CLASSES IN DEFENCE MAN????
by sivan vr on Jun 27, 2009 11:04 AM
That's because there's nothing impressive or glamorous about their life.
This is a reality which has to be cleared by the defence forces. Most of the people coming from other backgrounds are rejected. Why is this ??? Even in your above article most of the persons you have interviewed have had atleast one parent from defence background.
Re: Why only children of defence officers get into the forces ???
by Subodh Joshi on Jun 29, 2009 11:19 AM
You are wrong. I was a first generation IAF officer. I also know of kids of excellent senior officers not clearing the NDA entrances.
Re: Why only children of defence officers get into the forces ???
by Anand Nair on Jun 27, 2009 11:08 AM
Selection into the armed forces is purely based on merit and aptitude for the Branch of service. If you meet all the requisite criteria and have what it takes, you get in. If not you'll be drummed out. It's that simple and the outcome won't be any different even if your Dad or Uncle happen to be the Chief of Staff.
Re: Why only children of defence officers get into the forces ???
by Ram Sharma on Jun 27, 2009 09:49 AM
I do not think your contention that 'only children of defence forces officers get entry in to the forces". I did not have any of my ancestors in defence, and most of my colleagues,seniors and juniors, too did not have! But then, it helps one to PREPARE better for appearing in the entrance exam, interview etc. if a parent was/is in Defence. And those who do not feel the need to join Defence forces are the children of: Politicians, police officers,IAS,businessmen, and all other corrupt people!
Re: Why only children of defence officers get into the forces ???
by vyas cm on Jun 27, 2009 09:41 AM
Please do not spread such misinformation as a fact. I and at least 80% of the people who trained with me were first time defence service families with no immediate relatives or mentors from defence forces!!
Yes, the children of armed forces personnel, who have seen the life up close and people who have visited their relatives/ friends in the armed forces environments have been profoundly influenced by the orderliness of armed forces life. Some of these could be the cases of relatives in the forces. But there is no such 'reserved entry' into the armed forces.
In what should set the alarm bells ringing for the army, an average of four middle-rung officers are putting in their papers daily for premature release. The scenario has never been so grim over the past four years.
Defence Minister AK Antony told Parliament that 882 officers had sought discharge from the army this year so far, compared to 811 last year, 536 in 2005 and 435 in 2004. The trend partly reflects rising job dissatisfaction in the army, which is already short of 11,238 officers.
Re: Indian officers quit army
by muralidhar rao on Jun 27, 2009 10:27 AM
It is only 882 officers from armed forces, you will surprised to know that atleast 500 airmen (exclusively more in the rank of Sergeants) are going on discharge in every month. No body makes an issue because they are payband one even though they have been recognised as Diploma Holders.
Re: Indian officers quit army
by vyas cm on Jun 27, 2009 09:46 AM
A very important 'need' of the serviceman is the need to be recognised and 'not to be demeaned'. The IAS lobby has been successfully doing this the past 5 decades! The political proximity of this lot has influenced the politicians of our country. As you will surely agree, if the politician is crooked, he can easily be taken for a ride by those who pamper tp thier needs!!
Re: Indian officers quit army
by Ram Sharma on Jun 25, 2009 12:48 PM
Ms.Babli, If four out of 30,000 leave...it does not appear to be any cause for alarm!
But yes, the shortage of officers as such is...for which the govt is mainly responsible..by not offering emoluments not in consonance with the hardships and nature of job.
are there any seats reserved for the backwards or Minorities??? I was shocked to read that 1100 seats of these people are lying vacant in IITs. Such a national waste! USA lost 1100 good deserving IIT candidates this year.
Re: any reservations?
by Sandy war on Jun 25, 2009 11:38 AM
keep ur shit with u , why r u creting diffrences when people are already divided in to castes relegions ...
Re: Re: any reservations?
by vinay r on Jun 25, 2009 11:40 AM | Hide message
Squadron Leader Asha Vashisht has a nice and well built chest, looks like she is ready for combat, appreciate such women,who are physically so fit...
Re: Re: Re: any reservations?
by asha vashist on Mar 22, 2010 10:25 PM
your sense of appreciation and self esteem is extremely low (pun intended)! R u working for some MNC Mr. civilian???? By the way,we r not just combat ready,we have the licence to kill. Watch your words
Re: Re: Re: any reservations?
by asha vashist on Mar 22, 2010 10:31 PM
your sense of appreciation and self esteem is extremely low (pun intended)! R u working for some MNC Mr. civilian???? By the way,we r not just combat ready,we have the licence to kill. Watch your words
Re: any reservations?
by Ram Sharma on Jun 25, 2009 04:01 PM
Luckily none in the officers cadre! However, SC/ST/OBC can join as sepoys in the sweeper,barber,dhobi and masalchi( untesil cleaner) category.
Squadron Leader Asha Vashisht has a nice and well built chest, looks like she is ready for combat, appreciate such women,who are physically so fit...
Re: Nice Chest
by asha vashist on Mar 22, 2010 10:20 PM
your sense of appreciation and self esteem is extremely low (pun intended)! R u working for some MNC Mr. civilian???? By the way,we r not just combat ready,we have the licence to kill. Watch your words
Re: Nice Chest
by asha vashist on Mar 22, 2010 10:18 PM
your sense of appreciation and self esteem is extremely low (pun intended)! R u working for some MNC Mr. civilian????
Re: Nice Chest
by asha vashist on Mar 22, 2010 10:21 PM
your sense of appreciation and self esteem is extremely low (pun intended)! R u working for some MNC Mr. civilian???? By the way,we r not just combat ready,we have the licence to kill. Watch your words
Re: Nice Chest
by asha vashist on Mar 22, 2010 10:20 PM
your sense of appreciation and self esteem is extremely low (pun intended)! R u working for some MNC Mr. civilian???? By the way,we r not just combat ready,we have the licence to kill. Watch your words
Re: Nice Chest
by asha vashist on Mar 22, 2010 10:21 PM
your sense of appreciation and self esteem is extremely low (pun intended)! R u working for some MNC Mr. civilian???? By the way,we r not just combat ready,we have the licence to kill. Watch your words
In what should set the alarm bells ringing for the army, an average of four middle-rung officers are putting in their papers daily for premature release. The scenario has never been so grim over the past four years.
Defence Minister AK Antony told Parliament that 882 officers had sought discharge from the army this year so far, compared to 811 last year, 536 in 2005 and 435 in 2004. The trend partly reflects rising job dissatisfaction in the army, which is already short of 11,238 officers.
An officer says the discontentment arises mainly out of poor compensation. The army has approved 377 officers for discharge this year.
Unlike the army, fewer air force officers have desired to quit their jobs since 2005 when 308 officers had sought discharge. The figure dropped to 230 in 2006 and stands at 239 this year. The IAF is facing a shortage of 1,565 officers.
