Re: Shame
by rehan khan on Feb 17, 2009 10:47 AM
Dear, Whole state of kerala and goa is working in dubai. earning 3time what they could have in india. most important there is no discrimination, religious hatred etc in dubai like in india.
why to allow israeli, when they do not care for children and block food supply at their will.
Re: Re: Shame
by observer on Feb 17, 2009 11:09 AM
all Israelis are banned from entering the middle eastern countries why shld anyone protest and get cheap attention these countries have their policies .people in Dubai earn well live sad lonely lives the cost of living is ridiculous how the hell can anyone pay 96k rent for a 2 b/r flat per year and 53k school fees per kid.besides the other rising costs over 150k indians have returned to india in the last 4 months from the Gulf
Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame
by observer on Feb 17, 2009 11:40 AM
excuse me I'm not even from India and for your sweet info I dont need to slog my assssss off cos I have people working for me
Re: Shame
by aishwarya patil on Feb 17, 2009 10:20 AM
Dont forget Mr Nemediyah there are one million indian earning their livelihood in Dubai,think before opening your rotten mouth.
Re: Re: Shame
by vspi vspi on Feb 17, 2009 10:30 AM
Tathagata- you sino @sslickers- all u bongs shud be send to tibet. Israel is aour real & true friend becoz we've a common enemy.
Re: Shame
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Feb 17, 2009 10:40 AM
@ Nemediyah
Dont just write anything which comes to ur mind ... do some research.
Talk about tolerance by dubai.. u really need to visit that city (I have been there) Temple, church everything is there and people can visit without any sense of fear..
Just imagine a MUSLIM country and you are allowed to built mandir and church..
Re: Re: Shame
by shrooms on Feb 17, 2009 11:26 AM
really Dubai is a good place, have shiva and krishna temple and church too. its a cosmopolitan city where people live frely with full freedom. Much better better compared to India, where there is communal riots,hatredness, dirty politicians use innocent people as pans to win their dirty game. much more than everything this city as given hope to lead and support their family back home. And the crime too very less.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Feb 17, 2009 11:54 AM
people go there with full knowledge of what they will go thro after reaching there
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame
by observer on Feb 17, 2009 01:05 PM
say that to the greedy agents who con 1000's of workers who dont have a clue of what life is all about in Dubai.its only when they get into the system they realize that they have been taken for a ride.people stuggle for survival is Dubai
Re: Shame
by Real Indian on Feb 17, 2009 10:35 AM
Nemediyah.. Keep your suggestions to you and think about indians who r getting their livelyhood in Dubai.
Re: useless media
by Real Indian on Feb 17, 2009 10:37 AM
Emabanath Nair.. did u ever win a competition in your kindergarden level atleast(Idont Thinks so Sir) ..So u have no freaking right to talk about a Great Sportsperson like Sania..
Re: useless media
by Ideal Man on Feb 17, 2009 10:26 AM
Absolutly right,infact same thing with same subject I was about to write and saw your comment. She is getting really unneccassary publicity. she has never gone ahead to second round in any tennis tournament and winning doubles shouldn't be considered a big achievement. There are many other sports personality like karnam malleshwai and sunita devi why Media is giving importance to only Sania, who in my opinion is useless. she stands nowhere in que of top Tennis greats. Even Venus and Serena williams must not be getting this publicity in their country.
Re: Re: Re: useless media
by Ideal Man on Feb 17, 2009 10:42 AM
Do come to me and see, you would find out whether I am looser or winner. you must be working for someone but I have a well established software company of mine and I am a real winner not virtual winners like sania. by the way who are you to advocate sania to this extent. You have only sania's story as a successful human being. I pitty on your knowledge than.
Again I note these 'at least someone from India has done so much' messages. What done so much - I/II round losses?
Why why do we have such low standards and expectations? We're always delighted with mixed doubles and inconsequential piddling things, and keep hyping poor performances.
Girls from war torn countries, younger than Sania are in the top 3 with GSlam titles.
First Indian to do this means NOTHING in tennis and all sports. If Sania's 'achievements' are something to tom-tom, it just shows how low our standards are.
Re: And tomorrow - crashout, and that will be screaming news.
by azmat on Feb 17, 2009 10:01 AM
come on C kr...we are with you.....hold a racket and go on.........lets see what standard you can raise........
Re: Re: And tomorrow - crashout, and that will be screaming news.
by vspi vspi on Feb 17, 2009 10:33 AM
azmat- u moron, its not a question of holding a racket- this dame's getting more publicity than the Indian cricket team which are world champions in a many a format of the game.
Re: Re: Re: And tomorrow - crashout, and that will be screaming n
by azmat on Feb 17, 2009 10:46 AM
and u are a bigger moron dhoti clad slumdogg........indian cricket team........
Re: Re: And tomorrow - crashout, and that will be screaming news.
by Ideal Man on Feb 17, 2009 10:48 AM
he is absolutly right Mr tathagan*d tell me any of her big achievement.
Re: Re: Re: And tomorrow - crashout, and that will be screaming n
by Proud Indian on Feb 17, 2009 11:43 AM
dont you have any other good work to do. Asking for achivements of someone who has played atleast in grand slam tennis events. You are tired of seeing this kind of achivements in India. There are 100s of news in media of similar achivements.
they themselves are poor dhoti clad running around muddy streets never ever holded a tennis racket and comment about an international player.........thanks to rediff all sexually starved socially deprieved people can vent their frustration on national icons
Re: sick slumdoggs can never digest success of other community
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Feb 17, 2009 09:55 AM
i was wondering why redif has turned out to be a dumping ground
Re: sick slumdoggs can never digest success of other community
by vspi vspi on Feb 17, 2009 10:35 AM
azmat- Its these dhoti clad Humans that are running the country which some lung-clad-monsters are trying (in vain)to destroy for the past 8 centuries.
Re: Re: Sania is popular in media because she is a muslemm
by rocky on Feb 17, 2009 09:48 AM
Dont comment without even seeing her. Her booobs are bigger than her bottom.
Someone below has taken his time off for mentioning a list of Sanias achievements
1. She is good looking - she has nothing to do with it
2.She is the best Indian female player - so? She is not playing in India only, she is playing a global sport. And actually we have other female players in the country who are in the top 10 in their respective sports, have won world cups and have achieved great distinctions in their respective games. So why should we not praise them and follow them as role models.
3. Her religion - isnt that a big reason why she has got so much recognition from the western (and even the Indian media). Add to that the free publicity she has (fatwa and all), so doesnt this help her cause in being in the limelight.
4. She might never win any slams / Tier 1 - wow, nice mentality. Happy to be mediocre right. We have, again female sportsmen who WIN tournaments, that too, far more physical and contact sports like boxing (why I am not naming all these female players - Mirza Bhakts, if you dont know, its your fault)
5. Only Indian woman to win a grand slams doubles title - well, we have 2 gentlemen who have won 11 and 7 grand slam doubles titles, so there are more successful tennis players than her in the country. Since we do not have another competitive female player in the country,this achievement gets more coverage.
Re: Sania
by Rajeev Iyer on Feb 17, 2009 09:52 AM
Kaushik, Someone thought he should reply to your effort in taking time off too...lol
1) Haha, nice point. But the fact remains that she is good looking and therefore popular. Not her fault - like you say, she has nothing to do with it!!
2) Please praise the others - no one is saying no and I will join you in that praise - but don't unnecessarily criticise Sania.
3) My point exactly - religion is one of the problems - again, not her fault, she just has to live with what comes her way on that account.
4) We will disagree on this point - I consider being in the top 100 and earning crores before you are 25 to be slightly more than 'happy to be mediocre'
5) She still is the only Indian woman to have achieved this in tennis - so till there are more (whom she will have inspired), let us enjoy what there is!!
Re: Re: Sania
by janmejay patil on Feb 17, 2009 11:09 AM
Excellent Response my friend to the "mediocre" mentality of the fellow indians.... you spoke out my mind... :)
Re: Sania
by kaushik saha on Feb 17, 2009 09:42 AM
6. She earning 45 lakhs - compare it with her opponents. You cant compare this with what another Indian earns - you cant compare apples and oranges.
7. Should all of us become the CEO of the company we work in? - whats wrong in trying dude? dont justify incompetence with such stupid arguments. Anyways, the CEO earns much more (ever heard of something called the tournament model?)
7. Finally, many of us fall prey to the usual Indian crab mentality of pulling down a successful fellow-Indian - is it? then why do you think we cheer lustily when Bindra wins a gold? or Advani wins? Or Jeev wins? (btw, the last mentioned person wins much more money than Mirza, and nobody is jealous of him - so there goes your theory down the drain)
8. We cant stand a female doing well, we are MCPs - again, so why do we cheer when Koneru Kumpy wins? or Saina Nehwal? any reasons. Forget them, they are from cursed majority community. Why do we cheer when Mary Kom win? Because we are proud of them, and the fact that they dont wear those stupid T-shirts and stays humble makes them more adorable.
8. Glamour quotient and all - Heard of Maria Sharapove? Ana Ivanovic? - they are definitely more glamorous and also happen to be number 1.
9. Someone speaking of Sania not getting help, support etc - read Ivanovics story - how she practiced in an empty swimming pool. And the Govt of India have given her enough support it seems. Who else have got a Padmashri for nothing-to-write-home-about achievements?
Re: Re: Sania
by cracy k on Feb 17, 2009 10:28 AM
Just tell how many female national or international sport star you know. When you start counting you will have more number of tennis player. Its commonsense tennis is popular sport world around. Check out if yuki did well he too will get more coverage compare to bindras advanis and other because no matter what there are more indian matching cricket, tennis , soccer than those who watches golf, billard/snooker , chess or for that matter boxing. Expecting Sania to win grand slam is too much however if can defiantely hope a slam soon from an Indian inspired by sania to take tennis seriously. She did to tennis what Sachin did for Cricket. So no matter what she will be remember as one of those who inspire tennnis as profession.
Re: Re: Re: Sania
by kaushik saha on Feb 17, 2009 11:23 AM
Well cracy, its not your fault that you dont know. But I dont think you have heard of Danica Patrick and Yelena Isinbayeva and Stephanie Rice and Michelle Wie and Judith Polgar
Forget these ladies, even in India we have Dola Banerjee, Saina Nehwal, Jwala Gutta, Jhulan Goswami, Koneru Humpy, Mary Kom, Mamta Kharab etc
Wasnt PT Usha our best ever female sportswoman? How many remember her? How much media attention did Karnam Malleswari get?
Tennis with its short-sk**ts happens to be one hell of a eye-candy. thats why it is so popular. But even then we have the Williams sisters who have won more hearts with tennis than showing-off
Re: Re: Sania
by Rajeev Iyer on Feb 17, 2009 10:03 AM
6. Oh we compare all the time - worse than apples and oranges - that's why my post on Sania - the point being stop comparing unfairly!!
7. She is also trying...and not becoming a CEO is not incompetence - there are other things more important!! See where she is reaching without being CEO!!
7. Oh we're cheering Bindra and Jeev too don't worry. And the jealousy point is not exclusive to money earned - what about being a woman?
8. We do? Then how come you are complaining we don't? someone said apples and oranges i believe? tennis and chess?
8. So? That does not make her less glamourous? I also mentioned she has her limits, and those are below those of Maria and Ana. So? I like the lesser limits too?
9. Did someone raise that point? wasn't me. Sania has got a lot of help from friends of the family, and is making the most of it too.
Sania is a very good example to the young girls out there. She has made India proud through her achievements. Instead of finding fault with everything, we need to be happy that she is making all of us proud.
Re: Sania is The best
by Bhajiya on Feb 17, 2009 09:37 AM
You seems to be not regular rediff blogger..Majority of rediff bloggers are cynical and mentally sick.. They don't see positive side and never praise good things in happenign arround them
Re: Re: Sania is The best
by satish rao on Feb 17, 2009 09:45 AM
Because Sania has never done anything positive & ain't done nothing to make the country proud ,other than making some idiotic comments in her put on American Accent.
I find it amusing how many people criticise Sania Mirza - I think this is partly because we are projecting our own wants and needs on this girl. We want her to win Pattaya, we want her to win a Grand Slam, we want her to be #1 in the world, etc. I think it is also partly because of her religion which gets her critics both within and external to Islam. I also think she gets criticised because many of us are plain male chauvinists and cannot see a successful woman. Finally, many of us fall prey to the usual Indian crab mentality of pulling down a successful fellow-Indian.
But for all practical purposes, Sania Mirza is simply a super successful phenomenon. How do you define success normally. Should all of us become the CEO of the company we work in? Or is a nice fat salary, reasonable popularity, decent performances from time to time, having fun on the job, etc play a more important role? Well its the same for her.
1) She is the only Indian woman to ever feature at top 100 WTA levels. 2) Only Indian woman to regularly qualify for Grand Slams 3) Only Indian woman to win a Grand Slam doubles title. 4) She's a pretty girl with a go-get-it attitude which makes her very attractive to a whole generation, thats why she does so many ads - the companies know what they are doing and will not unnecessarily sign her up.
Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by Rajeev Iyer on Feb 17, 2009 08:33 AM
5) Why this year alone she has won close to Rs. 45 lakhs in prize money alone, and the year is only 2 months old. How many of us have earned that much in a year? in two years??? in three years?????
Therefore she is a super success - good-looking, best woman tennis player ever from India, will earn crores before she is 25......in anybody's book that is a pure definition of success.
Putting it in another manner, if someone came to me and said here's the deal - your daughter will in the next few years not win any tournament, will reach only 3-4 round in grand slams, but will earn crores of money before she is 25 and still be the best tennis player in India, will u be unhappy? I'll say no way - please bless her with that future - who cares about the tournament wins!!!!!!
So therefore, look at her properly and you see a ROLE MODEL for the Indian girl in Sania. Stop projecting your own requirements on her and enjoy the sport spectacle that she truly is. All hail Sania - we love you!!!!
Re: Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by N Bhavsar on Feb 17, 2009 10:30 AM
Rajeev Iyer, Agree with your thoughts about Sania. Your writing style suits a blog. Its a compliment. Do write blog and publish it. It will be worth reading.
Re: Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by Lotiya Pathan on Feb 17, 2009 09:26 AM
Please keep in mind, she is most arrogant girl amongs the all sports persons/.Media ia all behind her due to her look and modeling fig.. otherwise saina naiwal wud have been in media if true critia is chosen.
Re: Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by Rajeev Iyer on Feb 17, 2009 08:35 AM
In summary, we need to realise that she has her limits. She will perhaps never win a Singles tournament, never mind any singles Grand Slam, because there are limits to everyone's achievements physically, and she is at her limit.
SO WHAT?
That does not in any way take away from the fact that she is the best tennis player (woman) ever produced by India, the only one to feature in the top 100, to regularly reach grand slams, to win a doubles grand slam, etc etc, good looking, earns in crores, popular, etc etc...
Appreciate what we have rather than lamenting what we have not. No harm in wanting more, but in that process, don't miss appreciating the good that exists.
And stop projecting unreasonable demands on her, without first appreciating what she already is.
(These posts above are aimed at those who genuinely feel they should criticise Sania. For those who are doing it just for the sake of criticising / fingering (oh yeah there are tons of us indians like that only) this is my message.................(do your own interpretation)
Re: Re: Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by manoj krishnamachar on Feb 17, 2009 08:55 AM
nice detailed work up on the pin up girl rajeev!! there is a saying that goes" IF DOG BARKS WILL IT AFFECT THE MOON"
Re: Re: Re: Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by jay menon on Feb 17, 2009 09:07 AM
here comes another Indian- Manoj...atleast try to appreciate tht efforts that person has taken to talk abt a tennis player...let it b sania or anyone.....Well Done IYER....am a sports lover and also someone who hates crticizing.....Shez a good tennis player and let ppl get out of the attitude that whenever she looses a game...they start crtizisin...shez up against strong Russian players and a billion Indian crticizers...its not easy to win...
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by Rajeev Iyer on Feb 17, 2009 09:10 AM
jay, i think manoj is also on our side.....the dog he is referring to is the critic and sania is the moon...
Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by Lotiya Pathan on Feb 17, 2009 09:24 AM
I know , these Rajiv, Manoh and Jay is same person.. posting un-necessary things on a flop-star.. Pls. tell me why do u like sania ? for her play or for her look and mini skirt ??
Re: Re: She deserves kudos, not criticism
by Guest on Feb 17, 2009 10:34 AM
There are more things to look in her than just her play, facial look and mini skirt
