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Nunni
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by Nunni on Aug 08, 2008 10:58 AM


The role of CPI(Later CPI & CPM) in India Freedom Struggle and later(such as China War, etc)
Nationalism as a concept alien to communism. For a communist, Ideology comes first before country. For several Years, they had difficulty accepting India as a single country, they used to call India a confederation of nations.
So it is not surprising that the communists called all national heroes name- Mahatma Gandhi, Subhas Bose, Jaya Prakash Narain to name a few. Sabotaged the Quit movement, refused to accept India's freedom, started an armed rebellion against the Indian state, sided with China in the Sino-Indian conflict in 1962, supported the Emergency and press censorship in 1975, criticized Pokharan-II etc.
However, the most subversive role of the communist movement has been providing philosophical and intellectual underpinning to all such anti-national movements. CPI leadership supported the two nation theory thus Pakistan demand of the Muslim league. They even accepted Sikhs Demand for separate homeland.
Communists role during Quit India Movement is well Known. The role of CPI during China war is more Disgusting. It ranged from Declaring "Chairman Mao, Our Chairman" to Giving overt and covert support to china.

We will Broadly divide this Segment into two Section namely Before Independence, After Independence


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Bharat
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by Bharat on Aug 08, 2008 11:02 AM
Than why these Indian commis dont work

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Manohar
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by Manohar on Aug 08, 2008 11:10 AM
commies have been ruling in W.Bengal for 20 years by bringing in Bangladeshis and harbouring them in huge numbers since independance. A RAW issued statement tabled during the Narsimha Rao govt stated that 50 pct of the seats in W.Bengal are decided by Bangladeshi Muslims. Also visit Google Search - Bengal genocide - demography and u will see how the commies betrayed the nation and how another partition is in waiting

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Nunni
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by Nunni on Aug 08, 2008 10:55 AM
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLOLOLOLOLO, sala raheta india mai aur gata china, desh pua ka pura gaddaro say bara hai

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cisco inc
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by cisco inc on Aug 08, 2008 11:02 AM
Sahadevan you commie mallu, I have the following to say:

1. It is called olymPICS not olymBICS, enderstood, engle living in gelff?

2. If you are such a great fan of China, why don't you shift to China and seek their citizenship. As it is Indians are sick and tired of your bickerings.

3. Go to hell!

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Jhakkas
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by Jhakkas on Aug 08, 2008 11:04 AM
Development in China...yes.

And, we had seen USSR also.


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Vinayak
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by Vinayak on Aug 08, 2008 10:54 AM
So in your own words development can happen in your adopted motherland but not in India. You are again proving that communists are bunch of idiots and hypocrites.

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Nunni
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by Nunni on Aug 08, 2008 11:00 AM
CPM Stands true to its "Traitor" Image

CPM Leaders have again proven that its only their body which is in India their heart is always is in Neighbouring Countries. For some like Yetchury its in China while some like Tripura Food and Civil Supplies Minister Sahid Choudhury have their heart with HUJI, a suspected Bangladeshi militant Group responsible for several Terrorist Attacks in India.

According to investigators, Choudhury helped Mamun Mian an HuJI activist and Bangladeshi national procure an Indian passport as well as a permanent resident certificate (PRC). Mian was held by the West Bengal CID on March 27 from Agartala following the arrest of two Bangladeshis, Alamgir Hussain and Shamim Akhtar, from Howrah along with some arms and explosives. The two also carried details of Army bases in north Bengal. Mamun Mian is also suspected of involvement in a fake currency racket across the Northeast. “He is believed to have circulated fake currency worth about Rs 200 crore in the past few years,” an official said.

The police is also examining whether Choudhury also had any links in the smuggling of foodgrains and arms across the Indo-Bangla border.

Instead of Expelling the TRAITOR for the Party and handing him over to police, CPM has come out strongly in Support of him. CPM central committee member Bijan Dhar said.

"We do not believe Sahid Choudhury has links with HuJI or any other terror outfit. He resigned from his post to facilitate a free and fair probe after

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Demo-crazy
RE:US is behind the TIP tapes. China is a strong country which knows how to tackle terrorism without any help from others
by Demo-crazy on Aug 08, 2008 11:01 AM
Is Karat going to advise China that losing Muslim goodwill is bad? Like he claimed in case of India signing up N-Deal which according to him is anti-Muslim?

We know China will ruthlessly crush these islamist groups, and in the process will also do away with a number of innocents just because they happen to be muslims. But NO communist will ever say a word against what China will do.

Only in case of India, our own communists will sing a different tune? Wonder why? The votes of muslims are important here, while in China there is no such dependency.

Sahadevan, what do you say?

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hari nair
Why only Muslims?
by hari nair on Aug 08, 2008 10:51 AM  | Hide replies

Can anybody tell me why only muslims are involved in jehad and killings?? The top terrorist of world is a muslim, top terrorist of india is a muslim. Everywhere in the world you will find only muslims as terrorists. Why so? Good Muslims say that Islam does not favour Jihad. Then why these terrorists in the name of Islam/Allah spread terror in the world.
Pls. correct me if i m wrong.

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sunil
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:16 AM
you are foul mouthed,

probably illiterate or stupid. i think both

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sunil
RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 10:57 AM
hari, it is a set of people who want independence. just like india wanted independence in 47. you cannot call Ghadhiji, a hindu terrorist.

it is media which is using the word islamic without any thinking and that is made you to view. so now we do not call LTTE as a Tamil Terrorist group, the NAXAL as Hindu Terrorist group and so on, just a perception.

Hope you are clear, thank you for asking. open mind.

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Mayank Agarwal
RE:Why only Muslims?
by Mayank Agarwal on Aug 08, 2008 11:08 AM
Sunil,
Gandhiji did not kill any people or give threat to other people like they are giving. Even Indian freedom fighters like Bhagat Singh Sukhdev or Azad were against British rule which was because they had enslaved the country and they were foreigners. What you see here is completely different...these people just want to kill people. These Jehadis have problems in every country (India, China, Bangladesh even Pakistan, Afghanistan, Israel, Middle Eastern countries, USA, Russia...) you name it and they are not happy in that country.

Coming back to LTTE, there agression is because the majority was not giving same rights to the minorities and it is confined to Srilanka (and not to Tamilians present anywhere in the world), however I do not support their method.

Naxalism is based on basic premise of rich and poor so you cannot even in your wildest dream label it based upon religious terrorism.

Hope you are clear with your fundamentals & please do not support these terrorists and call the freedom fighters.

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sunil
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:13 AM
mayank,

you know what bhagat singh did, it was voilent.

subhash chandra bose, asked for blood. i will give you freedome.

one thing i agree is that they are terrorists, but my problem is that they should not be linked to a religion. if they are killing people then they are evil.

Do you know the word Jehadi, you do not know the word, therefor you are using it. get the real meaning and then talk.

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Madurai SatheeshKumar
RE:Why only Muslims?
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Aug 08, 2008 11:20 AM
Hi sunil
LTTE or Naxals dont do violence in the name of religion...remember!

LTTE started its operations due to sinhalese oppressing tamils from 1970s...and, they are mostly christians nowadays i think.
naxals dont have anything with religion.

but when muslims form a major chunk of population, they will demand a seperate country, even if they dont have any oppression from any other group / community.

this is the fact.


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sunil
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:26 AM
satheesh,

this is a new trick used by the terrorist, but that does not make the religion wrong.

i hate terrorists, since they bring mess nothing else. my only problem is that there are so many synonyms used which are a part of the islamic text.

jehadi, people think that terrorist == jehadi.

i am against this. you are right

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Jhakkas
RE:Why only Muslims?
by Jhakkas on Aug 08, 2008 11:10 AM
LTTE, naxals do not kill others citing religion. But p!gs do.

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sunil
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:15 AM
this is the trick which the terrorist groups are using. But that does not make the religion responsible.

even VHP used religion. fortunately they did less damage, then these guys.

please dont like religion with words which you treat as a synonym for killing, terror or anything wrong

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Demo-crazy
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by Demo-crazy on Aug 08, 2008 11:24 AM
@Sunil,
You seem to be a Muslim hiding behind a hindu name! I may be wrong, but you may have some such blood inside you.

No one has ever called Gandhiji a Hindu terrorist. He was a man of peace and for equitable (or more than equitable, in case of Muslims) treatment of all Indians. It was because of him agreeing to the demand of Pakistan, the partition on religious lines happened. Then, he was magnanimous in saying those Muslims who want to be in India are free to do so. (it is a different matter, many muslims have abused that goodwill).

Please learn to understand what is history, then analyse it. Otherwise you end up making such stupid comments. Naxals kill anyone who is against their philosophy. Communists in Nandigram have shown the same trait. LTTE has killed Tamilians and other Hindus.
Can you cite how many Muslims have been massacred by these Muslim terrorists? Individual killings for revenge or control of territory or position is different matter. I doubt if you can list a single instance.

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sunil
RE:RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:28 AM
probably you have not seen the TV when a lot of muslims died.

terrorists have nothing to do with Islam. This is what i am saying. I dont know why you are using the word Muslim Terrorist.

A terrorist is a terrorist. stop using the other way around

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Demo-crazy
RE:RE:RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by Demo-crazy on Aug 08, 2008 11:36 AM
@Sunil,
I would want you to list one such incident when large number of muslims were killed by muslim terrorists.
WHY ARE YOU SHYING AWAY FROM MY QUESTION?
I have no problem in calling them just terrorists, if if satisfies you. But you know what religion these people invoke to justify their acts. Answer my question, if you can.
This play of words of calling terrorist has no religion is used when they are cornered to respond. But you got to think why these people if they are so peaceful, so much law abiding, do not catch those terrorists before they act, why not stop them in their tracks, why not prevent them from using their religion for their cowardly acts. So, there is something in the roots. That is the reason for the evil to be sustained.

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Demo-crazy
RE:Why only Muslims?
by Demo-crazy on Aug 08, 2008 11:14 AM
As long as politicians like Lalu, Mulayam are around you will see terrorists being praised like God. Politicians like Omer, Rubaiya, Sajjad lone, Yasin Malik, Geelani,etc shed tears now that they face the brunt of a peaceful bandh by Hindus. But they had no such tears when Hindu Pandits were forced to leave their homeland. Omer Abdullah, Farooq Abdullah made merry in London while Kashmir was burning and they were managing to stay in power through bogus voting. The same Omer Abdullah says 'Jaan denge, lekin Jagah nahin denge', in our own parliament - i.e., only for 40 hectares of land which will be used for temporary shelter during Amarnath Yatra time.

If such politicians and terrorist supporters are controlling the direction of a nation, what can you expect. Whoever wields the stick gets to control. So these people know when to wield a stick and when to cry for peace.

If Hindus are remain too soft they will continue to be treated like dust - while being called 'good hindus'. Those who are protesting in Jammu are being tear gassed, shot, etc.

No politician has dared to say that the land be restrored to Shrine board. But they are also not in a position to foul mouth Hindus anymore. They know what can happen if the already boiling anger becomes worse.

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Madurai SatheeshKumar
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Aug 08, 2008 01:16 PM
Hi demo crazy
what you say is absolutely correct!

Thanks for the right analysis.

Regards.

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A. Swaminathan
RE:Why only Muslims?
by A. Swaminathan on Aug 08, 2008 11:10 AM
Please read historyofjihad ( use goggle search )and you will know,why jihad and what for ?

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Manohar
RE:Why only Muslims?
by Manohar on Aug 08, 2008 11:18 AM
Sunil. U dont understand the difference b/w fighting for a national cause and fighting for a religious cause. Also Muslims fight against the state while all the other freedom fighters fought against the foreign oppressors.

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sunil
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:22 AM
manohar,

i hate terrorists as much as you do. but my problem with people here is that they think islam is responsible.

the terrorists are not fighting a religous cause. they are selfish and doing damage to everyone. they are no doubt using islam, but they are not muslims in the real sense, since they are not following islam.

hoep you understand where i am comign from.

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Madurai SatheeshKumar
RE:Why only Muslims?
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Aug 08, 2008 11:29 AM
sunil
its the wayin which islam is preached thats responsible in a major way...

we dont have to get to know whats there in islam...

but the way things are happening, its easy to say that the brainwash is the cause of the terrorist mindset.


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sunil
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:19 AM
jihad is fight against injustice, it could be as simple as stopping someone from robbing a bank.

nothing more. you are mistaking the word. It is wrongly used and media is adding fuel to fire.

beware, understand the word jihad from an islamic perspective and you will understand nothing wrong with the word.


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Madurai SatheeshKumar
RE:RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Aug 08, 2008 11:57 AM
Hi friends
for that matter, a saint like Saibaba followed both Hindism & islam and set an example that way...
so its more to do with right understanding of the religion. its not easy to misintrepret hinduism. But with islam it looks easier from the way they intrepret 'jehad' which in fact means comquering of the senses & sense of 'I'...But thats taken as conquering other religious people...


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Vivek Harry
RE:Why only Muslims?
by Vivek Harry on Aug 08, 2008 10:56 AM
these fools have been conned by their Pro into believing that the world belongs to them only, so they want to capture the whole world and start a caliphate

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sunil
RE:RE:Why only Muslims?
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:10 AM
vivek,

you are either illiterate or stupid.

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Vivek Harry
RE:Why only Muslims?
by Vivek Harry on Aug 08, 2008 11:22 AM
your Pro was illiterate and you are his fanatic follower sunni

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arp
RE:Islam
by arp on Aug 08, 2008 10:54 AM
Dont blame ISLAM.some suni terrorists are to be blamed.ISLAM never teaches terrorist act.Some brain washed chek loongi wala are anti islam.

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Bharat
RE:Islam
by Bharat on Aug 08, 2008 10:56 AM
Nobody wear Lungi in Turkistan.
And all round topiwala are brainwashed by Q book.


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sunil
RE:Islam
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 10:58 AM
Bharat,

under Islam, you are allowed to practice any religion.

Probably you have not read a word on islam and therefore you are generalizing the statement.

Ask me and i will tell you the mistake.

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varghese
Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 10:46 AM  | Hide replies

We are coming to the end of the first stage of our strategy. Since 9/11 we have had intellectual warriors who have studied Islam, built web sites, blogged and written books. We now know the entire scope of Islamic doctrine and the biggest elements of a repressed and denied history of the dhimmitude, and annihilation of cultures. We now know the enemy and this is a mark of our success.

Our enemy is the civilization of dualism. The ultimate nature of Islamic civilization is duality. Dualistic Islamic ethics and politics propose one behavior for Muslims toward Muslims and another behavior toward the unbelievers (kafirs). Islam has declared that the civilization of dualism must annihilate that civilization which is based upon a unitary view of humanity—ours.

We now know that there is no such thing as having Islam as part of our society. It is logically impossible for a civilization based upon a unitary view of humanity to co-exist with a civilization based upon duality.

History confirms that submitting to Islam means that every aspect of the targeted civilization must cease to exist. And it works 100% of the time. There is no such thing as a culture that is only partially Islamic. The evidence is exquisitely clear. Over enough time, annihilation is the common fate of all cultures that tolerate Islam. A little Islam is like a little cancer. Not a problem now? Just wait.

For a people who have been raised with an ignorance of political Islam we have made incredible strid

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salman akhtar
RE:RE:Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by salman akhtar on Aug 08, 2008 11:01 AM
These materialistic , self centered and selfish people do not know the sufferings of others . they are free to live like there own . they dont know rather they do not want to know about others sufferings. they are against the ideology of humanism not islam. targeting on a religion is bad. such comments sholud be reported abuse. phir jis jism me rooh hi nahin wo cancer se mar jaye to achha hi hai.
the cooment of varghese sounds to be intolerant radical extremist over smart and deeply arrogant . soory . target the sin not the religion. this will only promote terrorism.

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varghese
RE:Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 10:46 AM
For a people who have been raised with an ignorance of political Islam we have made incredible strides. Remember we had only apologies from those who should have been our first line of defense—our artists, intellectuals, media and the educational system. In a sense we have started at less than zero.

We should all stop, take a deep breath, look at what we have done and congratulate ourselves for completing the first stage: Know the Enemy. Then we need take another deep breath and get back to work.

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varghese
RE:RE:Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 10:48 AM
Our Dhimmitude

It’s bizarre. We outnumber the Muslims by four to one. We are afraid of them, they are not remotely afraid of us. Why is this? We are in a psychotic state of fear and shame caused by a past of 1400 years of dhimmitude and slavery. This psychosis is the state of the molested mind. The horror of Islamic politics produces a denial that the deaths, conquests, slavery, rape, humiliation, degradation, suffering and civilizational destruction ever happened. The molested mind denies the history and doctrine of political Islam. That is the mind of dhimmitude.

Our civilization must acknowledge our status. We are still dhimmis. It has been 1400 years of servitude, slavery, dhimmitude, ignorance and a repressed and denied history. When we understand our history we will see exactly how repressed and in denial we are. The first mark of the dhimmi is ignorance of political Islam.

We must acknowledge our suffering. We must decide that 270,000,000 of our ancestors did not die in vain. We must gain insight into why we know so little. There is a very deep reason in our collective psyche why we choose to remain ignorant. We are afraid to admit our dhimmitude and slavery to political Islam. A million Europeans were captured and sold into Islamic slavery. If the history of slavery were completely told, whites and blacks could see each other in a new light. Islam has enslaved us both.

In the past this shame, ignorance and fear could be ignored. But now political Islam is

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varghese
RE:RE:RE:Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 10:48 AM
In the past this shame, ignorance and fear could be ignored. But now political Islam is here and has us by the throat. Our future as a civilization depends upon realizing how close to annihilation we are. Only a revolution can save us. We must have a revolt of the dhimmis, a Dhimmi Revolution. After 1400 years it is time we faced our shame and fear with the Mind of War.

This common suffering must be acknowledged and shared. The history and stories must be told within our groups and shared with the other groups. Once we know about the Tears of Jihad, we will be strong and courageous. Once we remember the suffering of dhimmitude, we can stop being afraid, adopt the Mind of War and be heroes in the war to save our civilization.

Luckily the cure for dhimmitude is very simple. Once you know the history and doctrine of political Islam, you cease being a dhimmi. Knowledge is the key and the only key to freedom from shame and fear. We shall know the truth and the truth will make us free. Our future depends upon our facing the past.

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Vivek Harry
RE:Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by Vivek Harry on Aug 08, 2008 10:59 AM
the Dhimmi revolution should be modeled on the Spanish pattern, you cannot treat this like other Machiavellian game, this has to be direct and straightforward war, the sooner the better,

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Yash Bhatnagar
RE:Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by Yash Bhatnagar on Aug 08, 2008 11:08 AM
Varghese - back to the loony bin. There are a lot of worthless bigots in this forum - somehow the only way you can be a good Hindu is by being anti-Muslim. Hinduism does not teach intolerance. No religion teaches that. By calling all Muslims terrorists and championing destruction of an entire religion - based on religion of course - you guys are no worse than terrorists themselves - at least in thought process. Shut your gob and put a sock in it champ.

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Yash Bhatnagar
RE:Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by Yash Bhatnagar on Aug 08, 2008 10:56 AM
Varghese, your play time is up. Please go back to your psychiatrist and take your medication next time you jump on a forum

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varghese
RE:Where We Are Today??? Indians Awake....
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 11:00 AM
Yash..

ur condition is miserable..if ur an non muslim ur state of mind is already well diagnoised in the following ...The Dhimmi Revolution
by Bill Warner ..kindly Google this and awaken ur present stage..I hope u would want to leave behind an safe world for ur own kids and grand children..

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Indian
BJP Work
by Indian on Aug 08, 2008 10:42 AM  | Hide replies

Is it the revange for Godhra?
Or it is the revange against BJP?
What it is?
Even you do not like sports?


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Vinayak
RE:BJP Work
by Vinayak on Aug 08, 2008 10:51 AM
Read the article fully before trying to prove your pseudo secular credentials. The reason for the threat is mentioned clearly.

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JB
RE:RE:BJP Work
by JB on Aug 08, 2008 10:56 AM
Their aim is same irrespective of which foreign land they live in.

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JB
RE:BJP Work
by JB on Aug 08, 2008 10:55 AM
They are against every being & non-being which is not them. But again it's not their fault as they themselves are victims of this ideology from their so called holly book.

Muslims are now totally screwed up with their religious followings. Their situation is like
neither they can spite it nor they can swallow it. But then others are also suffering more due to their this awkward situation and the whole world would continue to suffer until they unite to free Muslims from their evil ideology.



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Hemant Dhakate
RE:RE:BJP Work
by Hemant Dhakate on Aug 08, 2008 11:00 AM
I don't know whts going on

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Ikisswonderland
China didn't take any action
by Ikisswonderland on Aug 08, 2008 10:40 AM

on these rabid dogs but oppressed the peaceful monks.. their human rights violations are only aganist innocent harmless people.. everyone is hoping America will come and bom the talibs in Afganistan/pakistan and all these problems will sort out. Now china ask for Indian support in their war aganist terrorism !

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Robert
Virus
by Robert on Aug 08, 2008 10:38 AM  | Hide replies

The world is like a computer & Islam like a virus in this computer. Wherever they are, they are a nuisance. Like in computers, Islamic virus has to be removed on an ongoing basis through different anti-virus tools.

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Pradip Rabindranath
RE:Virus
by Pradip Rabindranath on Aug 08, 2008 10:47 AM
The computer virus was first invented in Pakistan or by Pakistanis!

Rgds.


Pradip

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sunil
RE:Virus
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:03 AM
robert,

media has linked very smartly that any form of resistance is linked to islam.

other resistances are not linked. ETA is a organization in Spain which is fighting for independence since 30 years. The media never once calls them christian terrorists.

without reading a word, you have made a statement.if you go thro' the religion, not one place there is a word of killing.

robert sorry but you got carried away with the media

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weetube
Muslims even in China
by weetube on Aug 08, 2008 10:31 AM  | Hide replies

I kind of feel embarassed that i am hindu and no one knows about my religion except the indians and nepalis.
Islam is there everywhere.There are so many muslims even in US.Why is Islam spreading like wildfire?
At the same time i didnt find a temple in US in 100 mile radius and there are so many mosques?


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sunil
RE:Muslims even in China
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:30 AM
you are a hindu, why should you be embarassed. you need to be a good person.

dont worry that there are mosques. they wont harm you.

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Manohar
RE:Muslims even in China
by Manohar on Aug 08, 2008 11:38 AM
Sunilji, according to Government's study, there more than thousand Madrassas and mosques each operating clandestinely along the borders with Pakistan, bangladesh and nepal. And u say not to worry. Learn from history - breakup of Yugoslavia, Russia into 6 muslim states, Chechnya, Uigyrs in China, our own pakistand and bangladesh, not to mention the poor parsis from Erstwhile Persia. Wake up before its too late.

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sunil
RE:RE:Muslims even in China
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:41 AM
it is idealogy issue. madrassas is a school, nothing more.

if we do not take care of our people, you will have a punjab and a tamil nadu and other things. dont worry they are not going to harm you in any way even if you have 200 muslim states

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Manohar
RE:Muslims even in China
by Manohar on Aug 08, 2008 11:48 AM
Those are the reasonings of a scared person. What principles/logis applies to an individual applies to the samaj and country. What would u do if some one ousted u from your own house, raped ur fellow family member, or killed ur brothers and father. Answer this and u shall have the answer to the terrorism problem. U cannot sit in ur luxurious home and give a bhashan on secularism without undergoing the same experience. Dont think like an individulistic (swarthy).

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Divya P
RE:Muslims even in China
by Divya P on Aug 08, 2008 10:47 AM
see the answers for your questions here, Hinduism is not a proselytizing religion and Hindu scriptures say that all paths lead to that ultimate goal. Where as other groups say, only our religion is true. That is a sea of difference.

See hinduismnet.com

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Madurai SatheeshKumar
RE:Muslims even in China
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Aug 08, 2008 01:31 PM
Hi weetube
You will have many people doing elementary & high schools...still less doing higher secondary and much lesser studying degree, doctorate etc...

these religions have strict code of conduct, laws etc.
FYI, hindus dont have any such rules. I rearely go to temples for that matter. Almost no religious practices, but spiritual practices, yes...


that way, hindus & hinduism never grow by conversion, but by individual interest and that way this path is evolved... we also accept one can have anyone as their ideal (even without any belief in god, you can reach him for that matter, bcoz its about 'turning within'!)

islam & christianity have this conversion as one of their motto.and so they become happy when they are able to convert others by some false promises, monetery benefits etc, though there may be some who follow the other paths due to their own liking, nothing wrong with that anyway.

But if you see, Yoga is spreading like anything in all countries, and thats one of the brahches of hinduism...Other aspects will be followed soon once they find the fruits of the same,in due course of time...







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Sohail Khan
RE:Muslims even in China
by Sohail Khan on Aug 08, 2008 10:46 AM
So why not u understand and get to know Islam... don't listen what others said about Islam religion ... you are Intelligent and can differenciate what is wrong and what is right... u cannot judge and tell blindly about the taste of any food... unless to eat it... so learn about islam... i bet u will find all your hidden answers in it... I am not blaming or saying bad about ur religion... i am just giving u a friendly advice...

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Guest
RE:RE:Muslims even in China
by Guest on Aug 08, 2008 11:05 AM
Sohail have you read about Hinduism. I have tried going trough Quran. There are certain things that caught my attention.
1. Islam says that do not believe in idle worship and approach atleast 2 people every day and ask explain them about islam and convert them.
2. If people get converted its ok otherwise slay them.

I dont think Allah or Mohmed has ever said this. This has been written by those people who just want to propogate islam.
Secondly Islam/Christian says that you cannot have saints. Then my question would be who were Mohmed and Christ. They were also saints. The only problem was that at that time the followers of these saints made them the messanger and formed a religion. Even today we have saints and many people following them. Like Shree Shree Ravi Shankar, Amma etc who have losts of followers. If they would have been at the time of Mohmed and Jesus there would have been another religion. So there is no religion try finding answers to these questions. Because I dont believe Allah or Mohmed will ever in life say convert people to my religion since I am the only god. This has been witten by Islamic Activist that want to propogate this.
If ever you get time try reading through "An Appeal to Hindu Sadhus". Your eyes will open up.

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sunil
RE:RE:RE:Muslims even in China
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:36 AM
you are wrong. the way you are putting is wrong.

it also says that there is freedom of religion, so no force, only thro' reasoning, no force.

who told you that he should approach 2 people. you are not speakign the truth.

2. you are wrong, no where there is a word used as scary as slaying.

atleast speak the truth.


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JGN
RE:Muslims even in China
by JGN on Aug 08, 2008 10:57 AM
Mr.Sohail Khan, I can only sympathize with any one who wants to convert to Islam after watching the followers of that religion the world over, day in and day out. Islam is Arab imperialism and is not suitable for 21st century.

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sunil
RE:RE:Muslims even in China
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:33 AM
JGN,

read it and you will understand it is suitable for 21st and till the end of time.

probably you and i have not read islam. so dont jump to conculsions.

we are both illiterate in islam. so stop making statements.

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varghese
RE:Muslims even in China
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 10:55 AM
Sohail Khan..do u know what happened to more than 270 million killed by by islam and mohmed...if u knew u would stop being an muslim..and embrace Christianity or Hindusim..

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sunil
RE:RE:Muslims even in China
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:32 AM
varghese.

you do not know anything about islam, who told you that 270 million died. you are highly mistaken and reading soemthing very wrong.

please dont say something which you dont know. you got your facts wrong. islam never subscribes to killing.

hoep you understand

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Vivek Harry
RE:Muslims even in China
by Vivek Harry on Aug 08, 2008 11:00 AM
I will learn if you can give some good evidence that your Pro was not fake

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sidhick aboobacker
RE:Muslims even in China
by sidhick aboobacker on Aug 08, 2008 11:23 AM
All those who believe in GOD agree ther is only one god. The difference between other religion with Islam is the way of worship. All others worship those created by god or develped or designed by themselves. Here even creaters like snakes, lizards and even some mentally disturbed man.
If Hinduism is not spreading the reason is that people are getting knowledge by studiying about god and confirm there is only one god and has to worship that god only. Islam teaches all are sons or daughters of one father and mother. This universal brotherhood never teaches by any other religion other than Islam.
Then regarding terrorism the same is creation of US, Isreal Jew loby for theri business to sold arms and ammunition through out ther world. As US wealth depend on arms and security devices trade. So, they are seeding all type of disturbense in the world to reap the benefit by selling arms ,ammunition and security devices.

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Madurai SatheeshKumar
RE:RE:Muslims even in China
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Aug 08, 2008 01:37 PM
Hi sidhick
I feel sorry for your understanding of hinduism while defending islam...

your quote:
"If Hinduism is not spreading the reason is that people are getting knowledge by studiying about god and confirm there is only one god and has to worship that god only. Islam teaches all are sons or daughters of one father and mother. This universal brotherhood never teaches by any other religion other than Islam. "

When you say hinduism says there is only one god, it does not confine that god by any name or form. That implies one can worship god in any form / name and that prayer will be directed
to the 'Supreme' who is all pervading...
where did it say its only one form / name of god that i worship???

You say islam says all are children of one father & mother. now do you accept that one father or mother can be called x/y/z / allah / siva/ brahman?? I dont think many muslims understand that whatever they call as Allah is the same as Siva / father / brahman / consciousness ...i am not sure whether you understood it either...

so dont just stop with memorizing the verses in your holy books...think & develop right kind of understanding...



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MJ
RE:Muslims even in China
by MJ on Aug 08, 2008 11:00 AM
Never be ashamed of Hinduism because it allows you to use your brain. So be happy you are not forced to do anything in life. Islam is popular because they guarantee male members 4 here and 72 there. Hope u understand as the world is still dominated by male population.

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Manohar
RE:Muslims even in China
by Manohar on Aug 08, 2008 11:22 AM
Communists and Muslims strongly follow APOSTASY. that means once a Communist/Muslim always a Communist/Muslim. It is this fear that ordinary, although aware of the folly that is Communism/Islam, do not dare to speak against it.

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JGN
RE:Muslims even in China
by JGN on Aug 08, 2008 10:37 AM
Hinduism is not a religion in its narrow sense. It is a way of life or a culture. Moreover hinduism is not a prosyletizing religion. The Christians and Muslims beleive in the numbers game and as such they are aggressively promoting convertion and multiplication by procreation. There is nothing to be ashamed of. God is omnipresent (according to the so-called beleivers). So why you want to confine him to the four wall?

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Guest
RE:Muslims even in China
by Guest on Aug 08, 2008 10:52 AM
True. Hinduism is no a religion. Its just gives you a way to lead life. Thats why Hinduism doesnt propogate the culture of conversion. HAve you seen any one being converted to hinduism. You wont see any because hinduism is not a religion. It was made a religion by these muslim and christian priests just to hide their fault. Sadly most of us who believe in hinduism fall in trap of these Islam an Christians and convert themself amd then till the time they realise they have made a mistake its too late.

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sunil
RE:RE:Muslims even in China
by sunil on Aug 08, 2008 11:39 AM
islam is also a way of life. please dont convert if it does not make sense to you.

what is the problem. there were a lot of non muslims when the prophet was there. so remain a hindu.

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Koduvayur
RE:Muslims even in China
by Koduvayur on Aug 08, 2008 10:45 AM
Excellent comment JGN. Very much appreciated. God is there everywhere. You can pray even in your home. Remember that God is always taking care of you even without any prayers.

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JGN
Power flows from the barrel of a gun
by JGN on Aug 08, 2008 10:29 AM

The Chinese leadership always beleived in the dictum of Chairman Mao that power flows from the barrel of a gun. The Islamic terrorists are no match for the military might of China. They will only be able to make the living a hell for miniscule muslim population in Chana. When will the rligious zealots learn to live in harmony with the rest of the population? Or are they only interested in an assured entry into the Islamic Paradise stocked with abundant supply of "wine, women, water, fruits, etc" ?

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