We can’t agree on what Islam is and have no knowledge about our suffering as the victims of a 1400-year jihad.
Look at how Christians, Jews, blacks, intellectuals and artists have dealt with Islamic doctrine and history. In every case their primary ideas fail.
Christians believe that “love conquers all.” Well, love does not conquer Islam. Christians have a difficult time seeing Islam as a political doctrine, not a religion. The sectarian nature of Christian thought means that the average non-Orthodox Christian has no knowledge or sympathy about the Orthodox Christian’s suffering.
Jews have a theology that posits a unique relationship between Jews and the creator-god of the universe. But Islam sees the Jews as apes who corrupted the Old Testament. Few Jews see any connection between Islam’s political doctrine and Israel.
7;166 But when they persisted in what they had been forbidden, We said to them, “Be as apes, despised and loathed.” [the Jews were changed into apes.]
Black intellectuals have based their ideas on the slave/victim status and how wrong it was for white Christians to enslave them. Islam has never acknowledged any of the pain and suffering it has caused in Africa with its 1400-year-old slave trade. On the other hand, blacks make no attempt to obtain an apology and are silent in the presence of Islam. The Arab is the master of the blacks.
Multiculturalism is bankrupt against Islam’s demand for every civilization to submit. The culture of toleranc
RE:JIHAD....IS INDIA NEXT..ONCE AGAIN....
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 12:02 PM
Multiculturalism is bankrupt against Islam’s demand for every civilization to submit. The culture of tolerance collapses in the face of the sacred intolerance of dualistic ethics. Intellectuals respond by ignoring the failure.
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by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 12:04 PM
The history of political Islam starts with Mohammed’s emigration from Mecca to Medina. From that point on, Islam has always offered the world the dualistic option of joining a glorious religion or being the subject of political pressure and violence. After the emigration to Medina, Islam became violent when persuasion failed. Jihad entered the world.
After Mohammed’s death, Abu Bakr, the first caliph, settled the theological arguments of those who wished to leave Islam with the political action of death by the sword.
The jihad of Umar (the second caliph, a pope-king) exploded into the world of the unbelievers. Jihad destroyed a Christian Middle East and a Christian North Africa. Soon it was the fate of the Persian Zoroastrian and the Hindu to become the victims of jihad.
The history of political Islam details the destruction of Christianity in the Middle East, Egypt, Turkey and North Africa. Half of Christianity was lost. Before Islam, North Africa was the southern part of Europe (part of the Roman Empire). Around 60 million Christians were slaughtered during the jihadic conquest.
Half of the glorious Hindu civilization was annihilated and 80 million Hindus killed.
RE:JIHAD....IS INDIA NEXT..ONCE AGAIN....
by Chakravarthy Muralidhar on Aug 08, 2008 12:48 PM
Thanks for your good, cogent juxtapositioning of the advent of islam in the middle east. At the same time you must also remember that Christians invaded the American continent with such ruthlessness that in less than 80 years from the time of discovery of the continent, almost the entire indigenous civilizations thriving through the length and breadth, from the southern tip to the arctic circle were decimated. Many historians now acknowledge that more than 50 million people were slaughtered with maniacal obsession in those early decades of infestation of the American continent by every nation on the European continent and including the British isles! In other words this massacre was many many times greater than the holocaust of WW II, Yet the global history doctored by European (and mainly Christian) historians bemoans the holocaust as the worst war crime of man against man! Which means that even today christians do not recognize the butchered and extincted civilizations as part of humanity, isn't it?
Of course, I am not posing these to justify the actions of jihadists or any other terror groups. The moral of the story is that all the atrocities that one commits against others in the name of religion or ideology or anything else ultimately comes to roost in one's own society or nation at some point of time in the future.
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by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 12:04 PM
The first Western Buddhists were the Greeks descended from Alexander the Great’s army in what is now Afghanistan. Jihad destroyed all Buddhism along the silk route. About 10 million Buddhists died. The conquest of Buddhism is the practical result of pacifism.
Zoroasterianism was eliminated from Persia.
The Jews became permanent dhimmis throughout Islam.
In Africa over 120 million Christians and animists have died over the last 1400 years of jihad.
Approximately 270 million [see endnote] nonbelievers died over the last 1400 years in the jihad of political Islam. These are the Tears of Jihad, a subject which is not taught in any school.
VOTE FOR BJP IN LARGE NOS IN THE FORTHCOMING ELECTIONS OR KEEP YOUR BLOOD BOILING OVER FORAS LIKE THESE FOR THE NEXT 5 YRS. All the pseudo- secular parties are bending backwards to appease these mulsims becoz they vote enmass & enblock, we've to counter them in order to save the majority and our country from extinction.
RE:DONT GET MAD, GET EVEN
by Aditya Venkat on Aug 08, 2008 12:36 PM
yes vote for the BJP...and lets take Hinduism back to the stone age like the Islamist political parties have done. We can see what the BJP is doing in Jammu. They can criticize, but not offer any solutions. They had five years of rule to change India or even make attempts, but did nothing other than suck up to the Americans like the Congress are doing now. Opposition to the nuclear deal by the BJP was not becoz of concern to India's nuclear independence, but due to the fact the Congress was doing something to alleviate the energy problems (a contribution to our nation after all these years)before the BJP could do. All to score brownie points. BJP went to the extent of projecting Mayawati (another waste of space ) as PM candidate if they got into a coalition with them. There is no difference between the BJP and the congress and the other political parties in our country. They are all blood sucking parasites that need to be eliminated if India has to move forward. What irks me most is that BJP claims to represent the hindus of this nation, just like the terrorists are forcefully representing the moslims of the world. God save my religion !! With BJP and the other fanatic hindu organisations, the Islamisation of Hinduism is complete !!
Regret to make such a statement, but then it seems there is some thing wrong with the book. Else how is it that there is islamist terrorists any where and every where ! 1.In west they have a problem in individual freedom the society offers. 2.In china they have a problem with the non existance of Individual freedom in society. 3. In east europe they have a problem with all kind of rulers from Putins brand of iorn democracy to dictorship in Khasikistan to what not.. 4. In Middle east they have a problem with the freedom others are having. 5. In sub continent they have a problem with the social freedom the democracy offers . 6. In Indonasia they have a problem as they are the majority community. 7. In India they have a problem because they are the minority community. 8. Not heard of any in Jappan- may be there are not any of them there. Its time people look if the book really teaches peace or ...
RE:RE:Looks like some tig wrong with the Book
by JGN on Aug 08, 2008 12:03 PM
Mr. Sunil, this is what the book says:
8:65 O Prophet! Exhort the believers to fight. If there be of you twenty steadfast they shall overcome two hundred, and if there be of you a hundred (steadfast) they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they (the disbelievers) are a folk without intelligence
4:74 Let those fight in the way of Allah who sell the life of this world for the other. Whoso fighteth in the way of Allah, be he slain or be he victorious, on him We shall bestow a vast reward.
RE:Looks like some tig wrong with the Book
by Manu on Aug 08, 2008 12:19 PM
Your quotes are prooving the same point...Fight. You are again asking people to fight and not work towards progress. The book doesn't seem to have a concept "Respect Others and their freedom to think" (forget about your own freedom to think). Accept the biological fact that the brain can think in different ways and still all of us can live in peace and prosperously. There cannot be one way of thinking for everybody. Just bcoz you cannot accept others freedom to think, doesn't mean you have the right to kill others. Its wrong and defntly blows your concept of rewards also as wrong. You shud either modify the book or forsake it.
RE:Looks like some tig wrong with the Book
by Vivek Harry on Aug 08, 2008 12:02 PM
we know what the terrorists ar doing after reading the book, so we do not need to read it
RE:Looks like some tig wrong with the Book
by sony kalloor on Aug 08, 2008 12:02 PM
Will try to do it but evil cannot come out of good as a matter pf principle. After all the fruit of the pudding in in the eating
RE:Looks like some tig wrong with the Book
by JGN on Aug 08, 2008 12:02 PM
Sunil, have you read the book? Pl search for The Skeptics Annotated Bible for category-wise verses like Absurdities, Contradictions, Hatred, Good-stuff, etc from The Bible, The Quran and The Book of Mormon. Pl read and understand for yourself.
India's ruling coalition UPA Chairperson and Congress President Sonia Gandhi accompanied by her daughter Priyanka and son Rahul today arrived to attend the opening ceremony of the Olympic Games.
Sonia Gandhi will also visit the Indian contingent at the Games Village and boost the athletes morale besides attending the opening ceremony tomorrow night.
"Sonia Gandhi, her daughter Priyanka Vadra and son Rahul Gandhi, were accorded a warm welcome at the Beijing International Airport soon after their arrival," the Indian Olympic Association said in a statement.
The Gandhi family was received by IOA President Suresh Kalmadi, India's ambassador to China Nirupma Rao and Chinese Minister for Protocol at the airport.
Fifty-six Indian athletes will compete in various disciplines of the August 8-24 quadrennial event.
China has snubbed and smacked India once again on its face by inviting Super PM Sonia Gandhi and her sibilings and ignoring the country head PM and the President for Olympics opening ceremony. While it has given formal invitation to other heads of participating countries, it deliberately ignored its neighbour. Had Sonia any scant respect for our country and its leadership she ought have refused the invitation and given some excuse. But trust this pseudo Gandhi dynasty and its slaves to do anything good for country. This will make any True Indian's blood boil to see these people who have not an single iota of interest for the country getting treatm
RE:Shri M.Karunanidhi
by AswathaKumar Kamale on Aug 08, 2008 11:45 AM
Yes! We should allow all such close to the grave people to carry forward the nation when they themselves will be needing the help of minimum 4 to 4000 to carry on their burden of mis adventures.
RE:Shri M.Karunanidhi
by Ranjit Kumar Patnaik on Aug 08, 2008 11:44 AM
Yes, he will turn India into a Desert, destro nature, environment and dig up India to sell all minerals. Then ofcourse we will become a super power without free water to drink. He who has no respect for nature, he who wants to destroy even the sea creatures, he who is only interested in money for him and his stupid daughter....you want him to lead the country ? Go to hell man.
RE:China knows how to deal with jehadis...
by JGN on Aug 08, 2008 12:05 PM
Yes, there is no word called jihadi. It is just a "Zionist conspiracy" or "hidden agenda of Sangh Parivar"!!!!!!
RE:China knows how to deal with jehadis...
by abdul shakib on Aug 08, 2008 11:48 AM
When a strong US army could nt finish off Taliban in these 7 years...... who are poorly armed compared to US army. Do u think ur stmnt has any reasoning? who ever u r was ur face?
RE:China knows how to deal with jehadis...
by a on Aug 08, 2008 11:51 AM
Chine is not just strong. They dont fear uselful idiots like media and huma rights groups, who are toys in the nhands of islamic ghouls. If you needle China, they will hang you and all your past and present generations. Gujarat will look like a lullaby in comparison.
RE:China knows how to deal with jehadis...
by abdul shakib on Aug 08, 2008 11:57 AM
who ever u r.... its not all about jus sayin ...Gujarat,Ind. Gaza, Palestine. Baghdad,Iraq... Kabul, Afghanistan....time will say who will finish the past, present n future...
RE:China knows how to deal with jehadis...
by JGN on Aug 08, 2008 11:57 AM
Mr.abdul shakib, China is not India to tolerate every non-sense. They have implemented the one child norm for every one irrespective of religion. The jihadis will forget about 72Vs once they are in the hands of Chinese armed forces. They have to second largest armed force in the world.
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by abdul shakib on Aug 08, 2008 12:01 PM
Mr.JGN....no country is Nonsense...and the 72V's u r talkin about are ofcourse for people who die for a cause.... say like a cause for Palestine...or say kickin Americans out or say Kickin Indian politicians targettin Muslim communities.
So what hav u gotta say about ur LORD KRISHNA havin 1000 wives and still talkin about monogamy...plz answer this
RE:China knows how to deal with jehadis...
by ikku on Aug 08, 2008 12:19 PM
this stupids are enjoying all the benefits in the name of minority... we should kick out all these anti nationals once for all.. who stupid you talk abt 1000 wives... lord krishna was protecting them well.. but you urgus producing 1000 kids outs of one female.. one should cut their linga fully... which they do cut half... to save our country...
RE:China knows how to deal with jehadis...
by Aditya Venkat on Aug 08, 2008 12:46 PM
dear ikku, please refrain from taking potshots at any religious community. This demeans what our culture and nation stand for. There are other ways to educate them and bring them forward. I dont believe that Muslims per se are bad, i just think that its what they follow that makes them very intolerant. If we need to save this country, we also need to, by your own logic cut the lingas of all the UPites and Biharis too..
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by JGN on Aug 08, 2008 12:07 PM
I do not beleive that "LORD KRISHNA" really existed. You are trying to justify historical truth with something wirtten in some Epics (Stories). Ramayana and Mahabharata are stories and not record of historical events whereas Muhammed was a historical person who lived nearer to our time.
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by Pankaj Ramani on Aug 08, 2008 12:12 PM
Lord Krishna had 1000 wifes b cos they were used as concubines by demons and after their liberation no common person was ready to marry them ..2 solve this problem he offered his NAME to be used by them as husband ..there was no physical relation.half knowledge is dangerous
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by DAWA JACOB on Aug 08, 2008 01:06 PM
dear abdul shaikh... what kind of a a god you are talking about ...who bribes people to follow him... n who told you he is god? mohammad...he was a human being...
Has anybody read the entire book "An Appeal to Hindu Sadhus". I had read its first few pages. But didnt get the entire book to read. Its a real eye opener for all humans. Its a must read and recommended book. If any one has its PDF version please share it somewhere.
RE:Has anyone read ''An Appeal to Hindu Sadhus''
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 11:35 AM
Hi amit.. u can read an similar article ..its on the internet free..The Dhimmi Revolution by Bill Warner ..spread the word..do the needed..
Once a frog living in a well wanted to take revenge upon his enemy frogs. He welcomed a snake into the well to finish his enemies. Soon the snake started eating the enemy frogs one by one. One day all enemy frogs got finished. The hungry snake had nothing to eat except that frog. It turned into that frog and said,” Friend it is your turn now.” Within a moment it swallowed the frog.
RE:Story of frog and snake
by venu on Aug 08, 2008 11:35 AM
Same story when Jaichand invited Mohmad Ghori against Prithivraj chavan.See what happend we lost 1/3 of India to Islam in 1947.Today Islamist are killing Hindus in 1000s every year.
Terrorism is PROHIBITED in ISLAM, a biggest lie in the history of mankind, and its propagators are biggest Islamic criminals.
Jihad Against the: Arabs ; 622 to 634 Persians ; 634 to 651 Byzantines ; 634 to 1453 Hindus ; 638 to 1857 Egyptians ; 640 to 655 Nubians ; 650 to ?? Berbers ; 650 to 700 Chinese ; 650 to 751 Turks ; 651 to 751 Spaniards ; 711 to 730 Franks ; 720 to 732 Reconquista ; 730 to 1492 Italians ; 812 to 940 Armenians & Georgians 1071 to 1920 Crusades ; 1096 to 1291 Mongols ; 1260 to 1300 Albanians ; 1332 to 1853 Serbs, Croats & Albanians 1334 to 1920 Romanians ; 1350 to 1699 Bulgarians ; 1350 to 1843 Croats & Slovenes 1389 to 1843 Poles ; 1444 to 1699 Russians ; 1444 to 1918 Greeks ; 1450 to 1853 Hungarians ; 1500 to 1683 Austrians ; 1500 to 1683
RE:History of jihad
by Anver Hussain on Aug 08, 2008 11:32 AM
JIHAD IN THE MODERN AGE (still continuing) Israelis ; since 1948 British ; since 1947 Americans ; since 9 / 11 Latin America since 2003 Danes ; since 2005 Hindus ; since chinese 2500....
RE:History of jihad
by Anver Hussain on Aug 08, 2008 11:43 AM
well verghese Hindukush in on the Pak afgan border.....all these places belonged to the hindus....
RE:History of jihad
by Madurai SatheeshKumar on Aug 08, 2008 12:03 PM
HI anver It was part of ancient india...even during kanishka's rule it covered parts of afghanisthan i beleive...
so its quite possible that during those times india was much broader geographically... and with the advent of invaders, it became what it is now...
RE:History of jihad
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 11:37 AM
THE TEARS OF JIHAD
These figures are a rough estimate of the numbers the deaths of non-Muslims caused by the political act of jihad.
Africa
Thomas Sowell estimates that eleven million slaves were shipped across the Atlantic and fourteen million were sent to the Islamic nations of North Africa and the Middle East[2]. For every slave captured many others died. Estimates of this collateral damage vary. The renowned missionary David Livingstone estimated that for every slave who reached the plantation five others died by being killed in the raid or died on the forced march from illness and privation.[3] Those who were left behind were the very young, the weak, the sick and the old. These soon died since their main providers had been killed or enslaved. So, for twenty-five million slaves delivered to the market, we have the death of about 120 million people. Muslims ran the wholesale slave trade in Africa.
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by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 11:37 AM
Hindus
Koenard Elst in Negationism in India[5] gives an estimate of eighty million Hindus killed in the total jihad against India. The country of India today is only half the size of ancient India, due to jihad. The mountains near India are called the Hindu Kush, meaning the “funeral pyre of the Hindus”.
RE:RE:RE:History of jihad
by varghese on Aug 08, 2008 11:39 AM
Every columnist, politician, preacher, priest, rabbi, artist, writer, professor, or correspondent who makes a statement, comment or conclusion about Islam and does not make reference to the death of 270,000,000 victims of jihad, to dhimmitude, or to the doctrine of political Islam must be challenged about their ignorance. Every leader in every area must learn the history of dhimmitude, slavery and the life of Mohammed. Once they know this they will start to use the words Mohammed and Allah when they speak about Islam.
The Dhimmi Revolution must get in all leaders’ faces and confront them with their ignorance. This has to be without blame. Our leaders are not stupid, but ignorant. And the reason they are ignorant is they grew up in a culture where their teachers were dhimmis, who submitted to Islam by remaining ignorant about our history of dhimmitude. These leaders bear the burden of 1400 years of ignorance. Each of them share the psychosis of the molested mind. A mind in denial and fear caused by the violence of dualistic political Islam.
RE:History of jihad
by arp on Aug 08, 2008 11:42 AM
Jihad done against sias by Saddam,Jihad against Kurdsmuslim by chemical whepons by Saddam,Jihad done by blew the sias mosq in porkistan Jihad done in malegaon mosq,hydrabad mosq,Ajmer sharif,List goes on by some brainwashed sunni ppl.Taliban done Jihad against feloow afgan muslims after librisation if afgan from ussr.
