This is so bad , we make so much of noise for not allowing any other sport to excel. And dont even allow there success stories to feature. Today I saw TOI did not even bothered to cover ther success on front page neither rediff. I saw yesterdays match , it was good and indian really nailed korian in every part of the game.
RE:no news of Hockey ...
by Mohammed on Sep 10, 2007 04:05 PM
why dont u check on time!! the match was over at 8:30 and rediff put a msg board and pics along with the report.. http://specials.rediff.com/sports/2007/sep/09pic1.htm http://in.rediff.com/sports/2007/sep/09india.htm
He is great player and congrats to him. Wish there is omebody who gives him a proper fight. But he does not have the kind of opponents that Becker,Sampras or Agassi had.
Nevetheless, he is simply too GOOD and deserves every win.
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by Vikas D on Sep 10, 2007 08:37 PM
In 90s, when everybody used to compare Ivan Lendl or Stefan Edberg with Pete Sampras, people used to say that Pete does not have the kind of competition Edberg faced. Edberg had Lendl, Becker, Wilander, Courier among others as competitors. Lendl had it worse, he had to face John McEnroe, Bjorn Borg, Connors, Wilander, Edberg, Becker and Pat Cash among others. Pete never had such competition. He had a very inconsistent Agassi when he was in peak. He had Michael Stich, Thomas Muster, Goran Ivanisevic, Tim Henman - hardly the players whom u can compare with the great Becker or Mats Wilander.
Now same thing is happening with Federer and Sampras. After 10 years, some new guy will be winning everything and people will say, he never had to face the likes of Roddick, Nadal, Djokovic, Blake, Baghdatis, Hewitt, Safin, Davydenko because by then these guys will look like great players.
My take is DO NOT COMPARE players from different eras. Go by the premise that the tennis talent pool more or less remains the same. The more slams/titles u win, the greater you are. Go Fed Go!!!
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by Sandeep on Sep 11, 2007 10:56 AM
Pay OBEISANCE to Vijay, Ashok, Prakash Amritraj, Ramesh Krishnan, Mahesh Bhupathi.....once again
My vote 2 greatest tennis player goes to Vijay Amritraj. Federer and Sampras are not even his kids....Fed and Sampras need some serious lessons from Vijay
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by Saurav on Sep 10, 2007 12:13 PM
for ur kind info Federer had beaten Sampras on his way to win 2003 Wimbledon and also agassi has lost many times to him...he is greatest of all
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by mohapatra on Sep 10, 2007 12:51 PM
Hey wt he nonsense U r talking If He beat Sampras & Aggasi at some point of time then he is greatest off all time. We can tell this way tht he is at his best at this point of time.Tht all. Don't Comapr like Kid.I don't know hoe old R u .Ok Think again properly befor putting like this comments
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by syed mudassar nazar on Sep 10, 2007 12:42 PM
saurav,
federer n sampras met at wimbledon only once i.e in 2001 n ur right federer won in 5 sets ........for ur info Goran Ivanisevic won wimbledon that year...
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by Abhijit Das on Sep 10, 2007 12:32 PM
thats right Saurav, but at the time when federer played these former greats, they were on the twilight of their career !
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by savior on Sep 10, 2007 01:24 PM
if Federer and Agassi had played at same time Federer would have won all his matches with him like how he dominates Roddick. Sampras v/s Federer I can't tell but it definitely does'nt mean that Sampras will hold an edge, we simply dont know and it is futile to compare. If Federer wins more than 14 or if Federer wins all the french open, he is greater than Sampras period. Players like Stefan Edberg don't even come into the picture.
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by vishnu vardhan on Sep 10, 2007 12:49 PM
hai never say that.. do you mean to say that Nadal, Djokovic, ferrer ,bhagdatis, roddick are bad players.. its only fed ex supremacy..that he treats them like a mellowed cat. consider Sampras( my another favorite)- it was agassi, chang, ivanisevic,marcelo rios, becker,greg resueski, pat rafter(big serve man)..its same..its difficult to compare.. each time had their own season of opponents. Federer is so ruthless that you tend to undermine others..
RE:Fedrer and his wins
by K Jana on Sep 10, 2007 12:32 PM
Five years down the line, another great in the making will beat Federer. The point is, right now, when Federer is in his peak, there is no body (except nadal on clay) is near him.
RE:Rock Star...............
by Shailesh Singh on Sep 10, 2007 11:49 AM
Sampras has retired from Tenis and last match I know they played and the winner was Roger.
RE:Rock Star...............
by subhash george on Sep 10, 2007 12:38 PM
there was news that sampra and federrer will play an exhibition match...three setter
RE:Rock Star...............
by Sandeep on Sep 11, 2007 10:56 AM
Pay OBEISANCE to Vijay, Ashok, Prakash Amritraj, Ramesh Krishnan, Mahesh Bhupathi.....once again
My vote 2 greatest tennis player goes to Vijay Amritraj. Federer and Sampras are not even his kids....Fed and Sampras need some serious lessons from Vijay
RE:and he's not even married and settled down !
by Sandeep on Sep 11, 2007 10:56 AM
Pay OBEISANCE to Vijay, Ashok, Prakash Amritraj, Ramesh Krishnan, Mahesh Bhupathi.....once again
My vote 2 greatest tennis player goes to Vijay Amritraj. Federer and Sampras are not even his kids....Fed and Sampras need some serious lessons from Vijay
Mr Sandeep u need a serious treatment...Ur Vijay Amritraj( Indica) is no where near to federer ( Mercedes)...Amritraj didnt achieve even 5 % of Great Federer...
RE:RE:Comparing Mercedes to rubbish Indica...
by vijay hatewar on Sep 10, 2007 12:29 PM
I agree , comparing these two is like comparing a Zopda with a 7 bhk luxurious flat . amritraj is indeed zopda !!! :P
RE:Comparing Mercedes to rubbish Indica...
by Venugopalan on Sep 10, 2007 02:13 PM
Mr. VH: Your comparison is totally off the mark. During his prime Amritraj used to be the A of ABC (AMRITRAJ, BORG AND CONNORS)True he could not win many titles but still he always fought for India. Federer of course is a giant but do not ridicule others just to show Fed's greatness. This is not sporting.
Agreed Federer is a great player, but I think there are no great serve and volley players, like Becker, Sampras, Edberg or a complete player like Agassi around to trouble him. Otherwise it would not have been so easy for him.
He is playing at the right time. At the same time you can't take anything away from him. Hats off to Federer.
RE:GR8 Federer
by Sandeep on Sep 10, 2007 10:42 AM
Pay OBEISANCE to Vijay, Ashok, Prakash Amritraj, Ramesh Krishnan, Mahesh Bhupathi.....once again
My vote 2 greatest tennis player goes to Vijay Amritraj. Federer and Sampras are not even his kids....Fed and Sampras need some serious lessons from Vijay
RE:GR8 Federer
by vijay hatewar on Sep 10, 2007 12:30 PM
I agree , comparing these two is like comparing a Zopda with a 7 bhk luxurious flat . amritraj is indeed zopda !!! :P
RE:GR8 Federer
by imtiyaz lakhani on Sep 10, 2007 11:33 AM
I think Fedrer is lot better player than Agassi. He has much more options than Agassi. Sampras has the best serve and volley game of the lot.
RE:GR8 Federer
by savior on Sep 10, 2007 10:45 AM
number of grand slams won is the best measure else there is no end to speculation. Would Sampras have beaten Borg with wooden rackets if Sampras had played in late 70s? who knows. Serve and Volley is a dying art and there is no need to compare Federer with serve and volley players. And btw Agassi lost most of his matches with Sampras. So Agassi should not be in the all time greatest player list. Also it should be noted that Roddick serves quicker than Sampras, he regularly reels off 145-150 mph serve. The key thing in common between Federer and Sampras is both play the big points well.
RE:GR8 Federer
by prakash mohanasundaram on Sep 10, 2007 11:07 AM
Very True savior They are of different times cannot compare one with the other. Sometimes winning slams alone cannot be counted for or against greatness.
Federer is a true champion. It was in a sense a very good match. I see messages that say Federer was not at his best or Djokovic is only a hype.
There are two factors - Federer did not completely dominate this tournament like he has done in the past - He dropped two sets enroute which made a few believe that he might not win the tournament. Dropping 2 sets according to Roger's Standard can be considered bad, but thats the mark of a great champion - In form or Out of form, he still wins. This is what seperates the men from the boys, professional from amateur or a great player from a legend. You gotta hand it to the man.
Djokovic - has had a fantastic year so far, he has the talent and the will to be with the best.Hes just 20 - so dont be too critical on him. Remember Fed was 21 when he won Wimby in 2003. So remember this is just the beginning of djokovic for a fantastic career - provided he stays fit and focussed. Fed has been on tour for almost a decade, Joker has just started a couple of years back. So no real comparisons yet!!!!. The kids gotta an amazing talent and a good sense of humour. His imitations are worth watchin again and again
RE:A Great Player - A True Champion
by Sandeep on Sep 10, 2007 10:42 AM
Pay OBEISANCE to Vijay, Ashok, Prakash Amritraj, Ramesh Krishnan, Mahesh Bhupathi.....once again
My vote 2 greatest tennis player goes to Vijay Amritraj. Federer and Sampras are not even his kids....Fed and Sampras need some serious lessons from Vijay
RE:A Great Player - A True Champion
by rajesh bsr on Sep 10, 2007 02:13 PM
HI SUCK-DEEP ,BY ANY CHANCE ..ARE YOU THE KID OF THOSE GUYS YOU HAVE MENTIONED...
RE:RE:A Great Player - A True Champion
by rajesh bsr on Sep 10, 2007 02:15 PM
by rajesh bsr on Sep 10, 2007 02:13 PM HI SUCK-DEEP ,BY ANY CHANCE ..ARE YOU THE KID OF THOSE GUYS YOU HAVE MENTIONED (Vijay, Ashok, Prakash Amritraj, Ramesh Krishnan, Mahesh Bhupathi)...
RE:A Great Player - A True Champion
by prakash mohanasundaram on Sep 10, 2007 10:47 AM
Dude Vijay Amritraj during his prime was one of the greatest serve and volley player of his generation. He made India proud so hats off to him. He played tennis in a different era - an era of touch and style which is different from todays high octane tennis. So no comparisons please!!!!
RE:RE:A Great Player - A True Champion
by prakash mohanasundaram on Sep 10, 2007 10:52 AM
Sandeep dude sorry - i have to say this cos you are askin for it.
Had sampras and federer been Amritraj's kids they would be ranked in the low 200's or 300's like his own kid - Mr.Prakash Amritraj
RE:Who can stop this guy?
by Sandeep on Sep 10, 2007 10:40 AM
u all guys r living in a glass house..once again
only u can understand me. Pay OBEISANCE to Vijay, Ashok, Prakash Amritraj, Ramesh Krishnan, Mahesh Bhupathi.....once again
My vote 2 greatest tennis player goes to Vijay Amritraj. Federer and Sampras are not even his kids....Fed and Sampras need some serious lessons from Vijay
RE:Who can stop this guy?
by Sandeep on Sep 10, 2007 10:35 AM
My vote 2 greatest tennis player goes to Vijay Amritraj. Federer and Sampras are not even his kids....Fed and Sampras need some serious lessons from Vijay. MERA BHARAT MAHAAN!
RE:Who can stop this guy?
by on on Sep 10, 2007 06:30 PM
this guy is a madrasi...get a life..Roger is all time great and vijay who? you tamilians need to use ur head...
RE:Fedex Rocks...Sachin Sucks....
by Pravin Moraes on Sep 10, 2007 10:36 AM
Please understand it is not easy to compare the two because playing an individual game is different from playing for the team.
RE:Fedex Rocks...Sachin Sucks....
by Saurav on Sep 10, 2007 10:37 AM
ha ha ha Vijay amritraj??? who??? pathetic......Fedex is the greatest. Amritraj isnt in even top 20 players
RE:Fedex Rocks...Sachin Sucks....
by Sandeep on Sep 10, 2007 10:41 AM
r u dreaming....once again
only u can understand me. Pay OBEISANCE to Vijay, Ashok, Prakash Amritraj, Ramesh Krishnan, Mahesh Bhupathi.....once again
My vote 2 greatest tennis player goes to Vijay Amritraj. Federer and Sampras are not even his kids....Fed and Sampras need some serious lessons from Vijay
RE:Fedex Rocks...Sachin Sucks....
by prakash mohanasundaram on Sep 10, 2007 11:11 AM
Why is Sachin being compared here - I guess we cant live without dragging sachin in to something. Pls leave Sachin alone
