Does our country run on open canvassing of posts for specific individuals.Is it the style and substance of our democracy?Shame!!So if one wants something or some post in India what is needed is suport , recommendation of--- R.Ponnambalam
A recommendation is a recommendation;does it automatically become of somebody above the collegium.If a decision is taken by somebody or signed by somebody he or she has to be held responsible for.If the deciding authority doesn't concur with recommendation of collegium there ends the matter.Why he should be called the deciding authority if recommendation of collegium is to be accepted.R.PONNAMBALAM
Re: Recommendation is only recommendaton not decision
by R ponnabalam on Apr 26, 2018 06:03 PM
does it automatically become the decision of somebody above the collegium.-- R.Ponnambalam
Re: Recommendation is only recommendaton not decision
by R ponnabalam on Apr 26, 2018 06:04 PM
does it automatically become the decision of somebody above the collegium.-- R.Ponnambalam
Re: Recommendation is only recommendaton not decision
by R ponnabalam on Apr 26, 2018 06:04 PM
does it automatically become the decision of somebody above the collegium.-- R.Ponnambalam
This is nothing but revenge and anti minority stance of the BJP. This is the true face of BJP. In the years to follow, people will realize the damage BJP will do to India's democracy and its institutions.
Re: BJP murdering democracy one institution at a time
by NEELAKANTAN R on Apr 26, 2018 05:30 PM
Such controversial man should never ever be appointed as SC judge. His judgment will be biased
Re: BJP murdering democracy one institution at a time
by R ponnabalam on Apr 26, 2018 06:21 PM
Oh! Moderator!! what is there wrong in what I wrote.Just something what a Tashildar while taking a decision made his subordinate understand how a decision has to be taken and how he takes decision.It is good others too know it.R,Ponnambalam
Re: BJP murdering democracy one institution at a time
by R ponnabalam on Apr 26, 2018 06:22 PM
Oh! Moderator!! what is there wrong in what I wrote.Just something what a Tashildar while taking a decision made his subordinate understand how a decision has to be taken and how he takes decision.It is good others too know it.R,Ponnambalam
Re: BJP murdering democracy one institution at a time
by R ponnabalam on Apr 26, 2018 06:22 PM
Oh! Moderator!! what is there wrong in what I wrote.Just something what a Tashildar while taking a decision made his subordinate understand how a decision has to be taken and how he takes decision.It is good others too know it.R,Ponnambalam
This is not the first time government of the day has tired to mould the supreme court judges to its liking. 1973; Justice AN Ray was appointed overlooking 3 senior judges, 1976; Justice HR Khanna who dissented in the shivkant Shukla vs ADM Jabalpur case on abrogation of fundamental rights during emergency never became CJI, but Justices MH Beg, YV Chandrachud and PN Bhagawati went on to became CJIs. What about Justice Bahrul Islam who was elevated to supreme court after retiring as judge of Guwahati High court?
Re: Re: Govt. on reconsdering Joseph's appointment
by NEELAKANTAN R on Apr 26, 2018 05:23 PM
Even the collegium system of selection was questioned by the senior judge who was part of the collegium. You accepted that and now you have the right to question. You appears to be real Komali.
Re: Re: Govt. on reconsdering Joseph's appointment
by on Apr 26, 2018 05:32 PM
How Modi is in the picture about weakening the supreme court? Four intolerent judges of naxal and church background created unprecedented drama by addressing press for distribution of cases by CJI. They wanted certain cases to be given to them and CJI didnot oblige. Events turned out that the church and naxal judges were supported by Daniel Raja and Rahul by filing impeachment petition before the speaker against the CJI. The fear of all these people arraigned against CJI is that he would decide politically sensitive cases like Ayodhya dispute, Chidambaram and his sons case etc. It is the congress party which has nursed these disgruntled judges is worried that despite its candidates in the supreme court is unable to deliver to its needs. The core point is that they do not want CJI to exercise his role in deciding certain cases which the congress and communists want to be decided by their men as suitable to their agenda. This was happening behind the scene for the past seventy years and now it is open since congress as a political party is on the death bed along with the communists.
Re: Re: Re: Govt. on reconsdering Joseph's appointment
by Satish Agarwal on Apr 26, 2018 06:45 PM
how come no punishment was given in BOFORS CASE,WHERE IT ISKNOWN FACT THAT THERE WERE FINACIAL TANACTIOON
Re: Re: Re: Govt. on reconsdering Joseph's appointment
by Satish Agarwal on Apr 26, 2018 06:46 PM
how come no punishment was given in BOFORS CASE,WHERE IT ISKNOWN FACT THAT THERE WERE FINACIAL TANACTIOON
Re: Revengeful Act to send back Justice Joseph name to collegiun
by NEELAKANTAN R on Apr 26, 2018 05:18 PM
Advocates and lawyers were only divided on politics. Now Judges also seems to fall in the same line.
Re: Revengeful Act to send back Justice Joseph name to collegiun
by Raja Krsnan on Apr 26, 2018 06:48 PM
Revenge is a part of politics and there is nothing new in it. Governments of the day are not fools to let an outsider enter their fort and bring them down. Its prudent to keep such problems out. That is fair on the part of this government.
Re: Revengeful Act to send back Justice Joseph name to collegiun
by S M on Apr 26, 2018 07:25 PM
According to you, if anyone gives judgement against the government, he should be rewarded irrespective of his seniority
the foot servant of komaaaaali Modi (Dipak Misra, the man who initially became known for his false affidavit to claim land meant for landless farmers) do ??
Can he hope to misuse his powers as the master of the roster to take a decision on behalf of the 5 judge Collegium to revoke its earlier recommendation to elevate Justice Joseph ?
How nice it would have been if only he could recommend the appointment of judges to the govt !!
Re: Now, what will
by ASHOK UPADHYAYA on Apr 26, 2018 04:33 PM
Just read the above mail of M Raghunath ... now tell as usual this trend is set by Congress..as usual if any work done by BJP Govt Congress takes credit saying that it was Congress work...
Re: Re: Now, what will
by piri on Apr 26, 2018 04:45 PM
Indira Gandhi was a despot. She weakened many democratic institutions and declared an emergency when cornered.
And she fooled commoners with garibi hatao and roti, kapda....
So ?
Does that give a right to komaaaali Modi to weaken democratic institutions again and fool commoners with hyndu.....muxlim......hyndu.... ?
Re: Re: Re: Now, what will
by P S SHAH on Apr 26, 2018 08:30 PM
Abe Kaliye, the ever stinking komaaaaaaaaaaaaaali Buffoon, when Indira Gandhi declared emergency, did you or any communists had guts to protest against her decision ? You people were hiding in your hideout.
Re: Now, what will
by Raja Krsnan on Apr 26, 2018 06:40 PM
Piri, calm down. Relax boy. you are getting upset with everything happening around you. you know, times have changed. people managing the affairs of the state are not the foot soldiers of commie and secular brigade. agenda of the righ wing is different. since they are in power, its their right to do what they like and put only those who toe their line. that is fair enough to be expected from BJP. After all they are ruling the country now.
Piri, I suggest you get yourself some good rest. You can get agitated and excited in April-May 2019 when general elections come around.
Re: Re: Now, what will
by P S SHAH on Apr 26, 2018 08:33 PM
This ever stinking komaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaali Buffoonwill surely land himself in any mental hospital for a long long time after announcement of 2019 parliament election results and NDA retain power.
Re: Now, what will
by P S SHAH on Apr 26, 2018 08:36 PM
Abe Kaliye, you continue your never ending kraaaaa........... kraaaaaaa......kraaaaaaaa.........while Justice Chelameshwar retire as only Judge of Apex Court while CJI Mishra will retire at the end of his term as CJI.
The current issues related to Judges is due to lack of transparency in functioning of judiciary whether it is appointment or roster system and many other issues.Reforms are urgently required to keep dwindling public faith
Re: Reforms in Judiciary
by Chaitanya on Apr 26, 2018 04:02 PM
Internal issues in judiciary must not be confused with the issued of external (govt) attempts to take control of judiciary.
Issues exist within the judiciary.
But that does not mean that we should let the govt take over control of the judiciary, through the appointments process or through other means.
Today, despite many imperfections in the judiciary and in judges, for MOST PEOPLE, the judiciary is the LAST HOPE in an otherwise murky world of crooks.
Even when the crooked sometimes fight of justice (read as politicians seek justice), THEY TOO see the judiciary as their ULTIMATE HOPE.
Allowing the govt to control will erode even that last hope.
Justice Joseph had cancelled President's rule in Uttarakhand and brought back the Congress government of Harish Rawat to power. The same congress government was routed and voted out of power by the people of Uttarakhand. What revenge does the BJP have over Justice Joseph, BJP have formed the government in Uttarakhand with people's mandate. This is utter nonsense and stupidity by the Congress. Congress thinks that Kapil Sibal is the law minister and Rahul baba is the PM of the country. Stupid congress they are habitual offenders and oppose everything blindly without any logic and valid reasons.
Re: ustice Joseph had cancelled President's rule.
by on Apr 26, 2018 06:19 PM
It is well said by Mohan Rangan. If J Joseph had ruled against the action of the uttar Khand, be it. what was BJP's loss? they got the peoples mandate. The issue now is that there are 40 more judges who are senior to justice Joseph who have to be considered by the collegiate before arriving at the seniority of J Joseph. Let the process be done. Why the four rebel judges are frustrated that J Joseph is not picked up to the Supreme Court? Another church candidate?
Re: ustice Joseph had cancelled President's rule.
by MG Rabbani on Apr 26, 2018 06:26 PM
If Justice Joseph is not suitable then why CJI had recommended his name... Is CJI is not enough capable of understanding the eligibility Criteria...
Re: ustice Joseph had cancelled President's rule.
by Raja Krsnan on Apr 26, 2018 06:43 PM
If you help me, I will help you. That's fair enough. Might is right. atleast at this point in time.
If GOI has no role to play, why do you send the so called recommendations as a mere formality. You yourselves pass a resolution and inform for disbursement of salary and perks. Already the group of 4 may have rised objections and subsequent politicisation. I hope, GOI should remove all special holidays to all Courts like summer / winter / others for faster justice.
