Cow is mummy in UP & yummy in North East which enunciates the BJP & RSS stand. It just goes to prove that the cow is the unwitting player in this sordid debate on meat & livelihoods. The people who are really hit are the farmer who dispose off their cattle when they are of no use as it becomes an economic liability to them. But people in urban & semi urban areas are talking the language of vainglorious manipulative politicians who have made the cow a party to an infructuous debate. Meat eating has even a cultural & developmental aspect to it which the BJP & RSS are misrepresenting.
Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 01:02 PM
Followers of Owaisi can only see things as pro-muslim and anti-muslim. They should not try to project themselves as secular.
Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by ravi mohota on Apr 04, 2017 01:34 PM
Katuon.. Sooar ka Meat Kyo Nahi khata.Vo bhi Too Yammy...BhosadiKe.MaderchodKatueSaale.You are a Sleeper Cell ISIL AGENT.
Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by ravi mohota on Apr 04, 2017 01:31 PM
Katuon.. Sooar ka Meat Kyo Nahi khata..BhosadiKe..You are a Sleeper Cell ISIL AGENT.
Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 01:33 PM
Some people are dummy in UP and dummy in North East and dummy in Hyderabad too!
Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by ravi mohota on Apr 04, 2017 04:02 PM
Inzi..BhosadiKe.. Katue.. Sooar ka Meat Kyo Nahi khata..BhosadiKe..You are a Sleeper Cell ISIL AGENT.
Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by nasiruddin ahmed on Apr 05, 2017 10:38 PM
Fish is Bishnu Avatar BJP must band fish also coz Bishnu save this world in the time of greet flood being fish Avatar.
Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 12:21 PM
Meat can be eaten but why kill an animal which is considered god by majority of people? Not required
Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by aleem ahmed on Apr 04, 2017 12:31 PM
Why beat and torture such a sacred animal. Why allow such a sacred animal go hungry and eat garbage/filth. We have just become a hypocrite society without logic. Fanaticism, be it any religion is the cause behind inequality and unrest in the society. We should have been discussing education, health and employment, instead, the least important issues/non-issues are being discussed. We definitely need to grow up and mature if we are really concerned about the nation and society in general.
Re: Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by ravi mohota on Apr 04, 2017 03:59 PM
Katue.. Sooar ka Meat Kyo Nahi khata..BhosadiKe..You are a Sleeper Cell ISIL AGENT.
Re: Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by ravi mohota on Apr 04, 2017 04:01 PM
Aleem.. Katue.. Sooar ka Meat Kyo Nahi khata..BhosadiKe..You are a Sleeper Cell ISIL AGENT.
Re: Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 12:34 PM
Ok so shall we remove all mosques in the country? Also write everywhere that mohd is a ra-pi-st? Why not? According to you all these are fanaticism-:)
Re: Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 12:37 PM
Aleem, when it comes to your community you shout like hell since you have sentiments but when it is some other community all these fanaticism etc comes in funny -:) do not think you can just keep living by hurting the majority sentiments in this country...a community which believe in things like triple taalaaq will not teach modernized world-:)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by Dams on Apr 04, 2017 02:30 PM
All my dear friends.. Please note I also don't eat meat but the thing is for some people of certain states it's a staple diet for them.. The same way Dal and chaval for North Indians.. So certainly people who are having it since their childhood consider this as their staple diet, hence they will surely object it.. They are not wrong my dear friends..
Re: Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by Sujith Varghese on Apr 06, 2017 04:37 PM
I do not understand your logic, if plants are godly to me and my community, will you stop killing plants for food?? Let me phrase it this way, Why do you kill plants which is considered sacred to my people..
Re: Owaisi said the right thing
by arun krishna on Apr 05, 2017 09:25 AM
So you're suggesting that UP_CM should turn a BlindEye to anyIllegalities and not implement NGT Order?
The author has conveniently forgotten that every country on this earth has its own traditions and culture which cannot be questioned. India too has its own tradition and culture and no one can dictate what to do and what not. We, Indians worship cows as our mother since time immemorial because it gives us every thing like a mother and hence we call it GOUMATA. Just because our mothers become old and cannot serve us like before, it is not our tradition to drive her away from our house. Even human body has proteins and nutritional values, but we don't send them to slaughter houses so that others can consume. The second point is that the exporting abattoirs need healthy and yielding cattle and not those who have passed their prime age and are on the verge of dying. Hence, in the process we loose healthy live stock and look to unscrupulous foreign producers for milk and milk products that come with bundles of chemicals. Spending up to 70000 rupees or more on unproductive cattle is unheard of in Indian history and the author has simply exaggerated just to satisfy her argument. There are goushalas who accept the aged cattle either for free or for a nominal charges. It is the duty of the farmer to take care of old and sick cattle as he has derived benefits from them till then. Modernization does not mean you kill all other living beings for your advantage and create imbalance in biodiversity, ultimately jumping yourself into the couldren because of your foolishness.
Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by MS Vasan on Apr 04, 2017 11:49 AM
Who has banned meat in India..? The author is confusing the facts. Slaughter of cow and beef is banned in the constitution... Do these people have any respect for the constitution..?
Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 12:06 PM
There is no ban in the constitution. There is a clause in the "Directive principles"(the same which talks about Uniform Civil Code which has still not been implemented) that . Among other things, following are mentioned in the Directive principles are :
1. The State shall aim for securing right to an adequate means of livelihood for all citizens 2. reducing economic inequality 3. Child abuse and exploitation of workers 4. the promotion of cottage 5. industries in rural areas 6. The State shall take steps to promote worker's participation in management of industrial undertakings 7. State should also organise agriculture and animal husbandry on modern and scientific lines by improving breeds and prohibiting slaughter of cows, calves, other milch and draught cattle 8. the directive principles, in Article 51 ensure that the State shall strive for the promotion and maintenance of international peace and security, just and honourable relations between nations, respect for international law and treaty obligations, as well as settlement of international disputes by arbitration.
Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 12:07 PM
There is no ban on transportation of cows, bulls, etc and no ban on eating beef.
Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 12:10 PM
2. The state shall strive to reduce economic inequality 3. Child abuse and exploitation of workers should be prevented 4. the promotion of cottage industries in rural areas is an obligation of the state
Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 12:20 PM
I do not understand why kill animals which are considered gods by some community. All portions etc are available in other chicken, egg whites, pulses also
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 01:00 PM
Because nobody can dictate to others what others should do. Your beliefs should not be affected by what I do.
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 01:08 PM
If you leave out sentiments, people can do a lot of things but why hurt others sentiments? ANy particular reason?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 01:11 PM
You are saying that your sentiments are hurt by what I do. That is ridiculous.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 01:12 PM
Lot of people's sentiments are hurt if we eat onions and garlic. Should we stop eating?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 01:31 PM
About onions and garlic I think only jains have..that is lower amount of people for sure..
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by saifkhan on Apr 05, 2017 03:54 AM
Bhosdike jisko jo khana hai khane do apni kyu Marwa rahe ho abhi
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 01:31 PM
So If i start killing you near ones..wouldn't that hurt you?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Vijay Sahani on Apr 04, 2017 01:41 PM
Your argument that "if you start killing my near ones" is a fallacious and spurious argument with no merit. Killing is a crime. Killing animals is not a crime (except cows). Eating beef is certainly not a crime. Transportation of beef is still not a crime. Let the law make it a crime and then we can talk. You want to impose what YOU think is right. I resist this urge in people to be righteous.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 03:12 PM
SO I guess you are talking about putting a case in and winning it..well I am all for it..But then I think some court already told something about beef specifically
Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Sujith Varghese on Apr 05, 2017 11:27 AM
Killing any animal for food is acceptable. Killing for sport is not ok. So killing cows are also fine. You can find this even among animals.
Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Sujith Varghese on Apr 05, 2017 11:27 AM
Killing any animal for food is acceptable. Killing for sport is not ok. So killing cows are also fine. You can find this even among animals.
Re: Why I would not support a ban on meat
by Sujith Varghese on Apr 05, 2017 11:27 AM
Killing any animal for food is acceptable. Killing for sport is not ok. So killing cows are also fine. You can find this even among animals.
Moral sermons by Hindutvawadis on the benefits of vegetarianism should not become policy of the state. The state is concerned only and only with governance. People who believe in vegetarianism will remain vegetarian. You don't have to pass a law to make everyone vegetarian. That is transgressing the mandate given to the state.
Re: Moral sermons
by MS Vasan on Apr 04, 2017 11:49 AM
Who has banned meat in India..? The author is confusing the facts. Slaughter of cow and beef is banned in the constitution... Do these people have any respect for the constitution..?
Re: Moral sermons
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 12:13 PM
Nobody has banned meat as such. Author is confused. In fact I think pork also needs to be banned. Any animal condemned or worshipped by a community should not be killed.cow is God for a lot of people. Why kill them? Protein you will get in chicken, egg white also. Why not that? Concept of secularism is to be equal and not hurt any community feelings so that way also this is better
Re: Moral sermons
by on Apr 04, 2017 12:18 PM
One i read article in danik jagran by hriday narain dixit that indra bhagwan has also consume beef (gomans ) then is a question mark.
Re: Re: Moral sermons
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 12:22 PM
People will write like this author also writes insensitive articles.. somebody might write mohd is a ra-pi-st will you agree?
Re: Re: Moral sermons
by samsir on Apr 04, 2017 12:24 PM
Obviously suits you -:) remember according to Constitution there is nothing stopping from abusing mohd too -:) people should know limits that is all -:)
Re: Hypocrisy
by MS Vasan on Apr 04, 2017 11:50 AM
Who has banned meat in India..? The author is confusing the facts. Slaughter of cow and beef is banned in the constitution... Do these people have any respect for the constitution..?
