Discussion Board

Charlie Hebdo and lessons for intolerant India


Total 194 messages Pages < Newer  | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5   Older >   >>
Sameer Shaikh
bnm
by Sameer Shaikh on Jan 08, 2015 11:13 PM  | Hide replies

Grand master insight on China, USA and world Lee Kuan Yew who ruled Singapore for 30 years, longest serving PM in world and being minister and mentor for 20 years saying this about Muslims. Mind you Singapore is a role model country in religious pluralism. No country had even integrated people of all religion and faith as well as Singapore. Full credit goes to Lee Kuan Yew, so we have to trust with him. He said "When Fareed Zakaria of Newsweek interviewed him regarding al Qaeda and Islamic extremism in Iraq, he warned, “In killing terrorists, you will only finish the worker bees. The queen bees are the preachers, who teach a deviant form of IIIIsslam in schools and uiislamic centers, who capture and twist the minds of the young.”

He further warned, “Americans, however, make the mistake of seeking a largely military solution. You must use force. But force will only deal with the tip of the problem.”

A decade later, General Jonathan Shaw, Britain’s former assistant Chief of the Defence Staff echoes the same warning as we face ISIS in Iraq redux.

He told The Telegraph that Qatar and Saudi Arabia had ignited a “time boooomb” by spending billions of dollars promoting and proselytizing the militant Wahhabi Salafism, and this must stop. “The root problem is that those two countries are the only two countries in the world where Wahhabi Salafism is the state religion—and Isil is a violent expression of Wahhabist Salafism.&

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Sameer Shaikh
Re: bnm
by Sameer Shaikh on Jan 08, 2015 11:14 PM
General Shaw likewise argued that in the short term the U.S.-led coalition could achieve tactical success via military force against ISIS, but in the long-term this will be an ideological battle to counter extremist theology.

The air campaign would not “stop the support of people in Qatar and Saudi Arabia for this kind of activity…it’s not addressing the fundamental problem of Wahhabi Salafism as a culture and creed, which has gotten out of control and is still the ideological basis of IsiS.”

Lee concurs. In a prescient 2002 speech for Singapore’s National Day, he argues the big divide is no longer between communist and democratic countries, or between the West and the East.

Fortunately the majority of uumMmmusluims seek their way forward through trade, investments, knowledge, management, science and technology.”

Thus, Asian uumuslims could stand up and delegitimize the Wahhabi brand of uuIuslam, and go after the queen bees to stop militancy in Asia.


   Forward   |   Report abuse
Sameer Shaikh
Re: Re: bnm
by Sameer Shaikh on Jan 08, 2015 11:15 PM
am not agreeing what Lee Kuan Yew said is absolutely correct, but as a leader serving his country for so long and knowing insight about world, he has some idea what is going at the top level.

Now we analyze this way.. Before Sep 2001, were Muslims being projected as bad as this way? No! where did this problem came from? CIA of USA collected different radicals mostly from from middle east to fight Soviet or break Soviet and they formed a group called Al Qaeda. They took help from Pakistan ISI who also supplied their mujahid groups whom they used as strategic asset against India in name of religion. Then Al Qaeda went against USA. IT was not about religion, because USA wanted to wipe out Al Qaeda after their work is done, so USA smartly diverted world attention by saying they are doing in name of religion.

Can we blame USA only? No! How did mujahid in Pak, other freedom fighters in world where there are insurgencies going on got funding? Many cited funding from Saudi Arab as it spends billions of dollars to spread wahabi version. It is strange to us because they have strict laws, but Saudi is a feudal with a king on top who with its oil rich reserves keep its people happy.


   Forward   |   Report abuse
Sameer Shaikh
Re: Re: Re: bnm
by Sameer Shaikh on Jan 08, 2015 11:15 PM
All will agree even this ISIS, Al Qaeda and other groups are product or creation of wahabi salafism .. a cult version is followed. Saudi and Qatar are only two states in world where salafism is state religion. They spread billions in spreading wahabism through madrasas. Is madrasas bad? No . They are just called seminary means where teaching of Quran is done to educate child. It is good because there all muslims comes under and become good human being. But in this changing time, kids, youth needs job and many top leaders like Lee said we need to teach science and maths along with religious education because for nation building, we need engineers to build road, even to build mosque, to feed family of poor, we need computers to get jobs. Saudi I think did not concentrated in this area. It is easy to brainwash youths who are not educated or taught wrong version.

These above thoughts are not mine, just copy pasted from Singapore article on Lee. But sad to see muslims in world are looked down upon knowing the fact 99% are good now. Instead world leaders must confront and check activities done in Saudi and other parts of Middle East where this problem started from where hate preachers are spreading this

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
bharat
Intolerant jihadist media
by bharat on Jan 08, 2015 10:25 PM  | Hide replies

Kuran and mehmood clearly advocated violence..If Indian media didn't hesitate to publish issues on Hindu society and used media to silence all those who dared to challenge Psyop of them.wrte truth about the people who fund you...Look around the world, mMuslim, kkristiann are not minorities..it is Hinddus who hardly get into rule the world, convert the world kind of business..Stop attacking Hinddus who are minnority in world village..

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
bharat
Indian media are partner of jihadist
by bharat on Jan 08, 2015 10:13 PM

They always protect the corrupt parties and spread the agenda of jihadist..Attacking Hindus helps them win bread and butter from saudi and western powers who have evangelist lobbies..

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Jagdish Dubey
If you have any guts publish those very cartoons here
by Jagdish Dubey on Jan 08, 2015 09:37 PM  | Hide replies

Not Uttams or Madhyams take. Just those very cartoons for which those daring people have paid with their lives. If you have guts then like papers in other countries why not let us also see what caused this most brutal attack. Let us also see whether you also uphold and support writers and cartoonists liberty.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Message deleted by moderator
bharat
Re: If you have any guts publish those very cartoons here
by bharat on Jan 08, 2015 10:17 PM
Rightly said.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Maximum
Re: If you have any guts publish those very cartoons here
by Maximum on Jan 08, 2015 11:07 PM
100% agree

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Jagdish Dubey
Ok Mango so dare you publish those cartoons in intolerant India
by Jagdish Dubey on Jan 08, 2015 09:27 PM  | Hide replies

What is Rediff trying through such articles is not very clear. But one thing is certain Indian journalists by and large can curse and blame only the tolerant majority. They dare not will never dare to publish anything against intolerant religions. They are afraid for their life and limbs. Under cover of support for the slain cartoonists they again play their game of blaming it all on intolerance of the tolerant majority.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
bharat
Re: Ok Mango so dare you publish those cartoons in intolerant Ind
by bharat on Jan 08, 2015 10:24 PM
Kuran and mehmood clearly advocated violence..If Indian media didn't hesitate to publish issues on Hindu society and used media to silence all those who dared to challenge Psyop of them..Look around the world, mMuslim, kkristiann are not minorities..it is Hinddus who hardly get into rule the world, convert the world kind of business..Stop attacking Hinddus who are minnority in world village..

   Forward   |   Report abuse
George Godd
Re: Ok Mango so dare you publish those cartoons in intolerant Ind
by George Godd on Jan 08, 2015 10:57 PM
well said Dubeji

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Total 194 messages Pages: < Newer  | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5   Older >   >>
Write a message