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by bharat on Jan 09, 2015 12:24 AM | Hide message
Fact is loAallah is hArabic word..in Mideast, this was used prior to MMehmmood writing .Further, MMecca and mmedina were present before mMehhmood wrote kkKuran Before making mMecca center point of Iszlahm, mMuszlims prayed facing jJewish temple..for policitical reason and identity crisis with jJews this change was made..Further, mMecca and mmedina holy place of mideast was captured and ddevotee kiillled before replacing it with bbarbarism and "my way or highway" mindset..not to forget 70 plus year old mmehmmood marrying 9 yrs old and encouraging ppedopphilia among society..sShameful indeed
Re: Charlie Hebdo and lessons for intolerant India....
by bharat on Jan 09, 2015 12:27 AM
Fact is loAallah is hArabic word..in Mideast, this was used prior to MMehmmood writing .Further, MMecca and mmedina were present before mMehhmood wrote kkKura Before making mMecca center point of Iszlahm, mMuszlims pprayed facing jJewish temple..for policitical reason and identity crisis with jJews this change was made..Further, mMecca and mmedina holy place of mideast was captured and ddevotee kiillled before replacing it with bbarbarism and "my way or highway" mindset..not to forget 70 plus year old mmehmmood marrying 9 yrs old and encouraging ppedopphilia among society..sShhameful indeed
Grand master insight on China, USA and world Lee Kuan Yew who ruled Singapore for 30 years, longest serving PM in world and being minister and mentor for 20 years saying this about Muslims. Mind you Singapore is a role model country in religious pluralism. No country had even integrated people of all religion and faith as well as Singapore. Full credit goes to Lee Kuan Yew, so we have to trust with him. He said "When Fareed Zakaria of Newsweek interviewed him regarding al Qaeda and Islamic extremism in Iraq, he warned, “In killing terrorists, you will only finish the worker bees. The queen bees are the preachers, who teach a deviant form of IIIIsslam in schools and uiislamic centers, who capture and twist the minds of the young.”
He further warned, “Americans, however, make the mistake of seeking a largely military solution. You must use force. But force will only deal with the tip of the problem.”
A decade later, General Jonathan Shaw, Britain’s former assistant Chief of the Defence Staff echoes the same warning as we face ISIS in Iraq redux.
He told The Telegraph that Qatar and Saudi Arabia had ignited a “time boooomb” by spending billions of dollars promoting and proselytizing the militant Wahhabi Salafism, and this must stop. “The root problem is that those two countries are the only two countries in the world where Wahhabi Salafism is the state religion—and Isil is a violent expression of Wahhabist Salafism.&#
Re: Lee views
by Sameer Shaikh on Jan 08, 2015 08:24 PM
General Shaw likewise argued that in the short term the U.S.-led coalition could achieve tactical success via military force against ISIS, but in the long-term this will be an ideological battle to counter extremist theology.
The air campaign would not “stop the support of people in Qatar and Saudi Arabia for this kind of activity…it’s not addressing the fundamental problem of Wahhabi Salafism as a culture and creed, which has gotten out of control and is still the ideological basis of IsiS.”
Lee concurs. In a prescient 2002 speech for Singapore’s National Day, he argues the big divide is no longer between communist and democratic countries, or between the West and the East.
Fortunately the majority of uumMmmusluims seek their way forward through trade, investments, knowledge, management, science and technology.”
Thus, Asian uumuslims could stand up and delegitimize the Wahhabi brand of uuIuslam, and go after the queen bees to stop militancy in Asia.
Re: Re: Lee views
by Sameer Shaikh on Jan 08, 2015 08:26 PM
I am not agreeing what Lee Kuan Yew said is absolutely correct, but as a leader serving his country for so long and knowing insight about world, he has some idea what is going at the top level.
Now we analyze this way.. Before Sep 2001, were Muslims being projected as bad as this way? No! where did this problem came from? CIA of USA collected different radicals mostly from from middle east to fight Soviet or break Soviet and they formed a group called Al Qaeda. They took help from Pakistan ISI who also supplied their mujahid groups whom they used as strategic asset against India in name of religion. Then Al Qaeda went against USA. IT was not about religion, because USA wanted to wipe out Al Qaeda after their work is done, so USA smartly diverted world attention by saying they are doing in name of religion.
Can we blame USA only? No! How did mujahid in Pak, other freedom fighters in world where there are insurgencies going on got funding? Many cited funding from Saudi Arab as it spends billions of dollars to spread wahabi version. It is strange to us because they have strict laws, but Saudi is a tribal with a king on top who with its oil rich reserves keep its people happy.
Re: Re: Re: Lee views
by Sameer Shaikh on Jan 08, 2015 08:28 PM
All will agree even this ISIS, Al Qaeda and other groups are product or creation of wahabi salafism .. a cult version is followed. Saudi and Qatar are only two states in world where salafism is state religion. They spread billions in spreading wahabism through madrasas. Is madrasas bad? No . They are just called seminary means where teaching of Quran is done to educate child. It is good because there all muslims comes under and become good human being. But in this changing time, kids, youth needs job and many top leaders like Lee said we need to teach science and maths along with religious education because for nation building, we need engineers to build road, even to build mosque, to feed family of poor, we need computers to get jobs. Saudi I think did not concentrated in this area. It is easy to brainwash youths who are not educated or taught wrong version.
These above thoughts are not mine, just copy pasted from Singapore article on Lee. But sad to see muslims in world are looked down upon knowing the fact 99% are good now. Instead world leaders must confront and check activities done in Saudi and other parts of Middle East where this problem started from where hate preachers are spreading this
Re: Re: Re: Re: Lee views
by Sameer Shaikh on Jan 08, 2015 08:33 PM
The problem area is Middle East. Even while forming Al Qaeda, Americans hired people from there. It means it is easy to lure people from that part. Something wrong going in Middle East.
World must check activities why groups like ISIS is created. It is said ISIS is also result of creation of wahabi salafism, which very smartly deviated mind of brainwashed youths by declaring caliphate... Do you think anywhere in book it is mentioned can we even touch kids, women and old even in way. They are following wrong part I think...
