Discussion Board

Chennai's story needs to be heard


Total 110 messages Pages < Newer  | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5   Older >   >>
Bharat Kumar
Overrated, obese and sick cities
by Bharat Kumar on Dec 04, 2015 02:29 PM

the people have a sense of pride, there is little doubt..but their apathy and attitude towards civic problems in normal times isn't notable. There is simply no sense of heritage and culture, the lure of lucre has taken over.

It is time citizen groups get together, listen to those who are well-meaning and exert pressure on the bureaucrats and political decision makers. The river basins used for IT park, the auto companies...none of the companies bother so long as they get their freebies, or they are so tired wading through the red tape they don't have time for ecological niceties.
So where does that leave the citizens? Left the to mercies and vagaries of nature. Drown when it rains, thirsty and fight for water when the sun shines !

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Common Man
Chennai is below SEA LEVEL
by Common Man on Dec 04, 2015 02:22 PM

Chennia city lies below sea level. Water from the city doesn't flow into the sea by gravity.

This phenomenon was evident during the 2004 tsunami when water never receded even for weeks.

Administration never learnt any lessons, knowing very well the facts

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Common Man
All freebies gone
by Common Man on Dec 04, 2015 02:18 PM

All the freebies TV's, Mixers, Sewing Machines, Cycles, laptops all are gone in the flood along with your hard earned assets and money.

Don't fall for freebies, elect a responsible govt.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Common Man
What have you done ?
by Common Man on Dec 04, 2015 02:14 PM

Please look inwards, please see what you have done to support the environment. Have you planted trees, saved trees, saved water, electricity, food, fuel ?

Do you look for opportunities to improve the climate taking the stairs, taking a walk instead of vehicle

Most people who are complaining here, don't even switch off lights in their office, when not in use

    Forward  |  Report abuse
rakesh sadhu
Kashmiris need to learn.......
by rakesh sadhu on Dec 04, 2015 12:20 PM  | Hide replies

Kashmiris need to learn from this. Compare the hue and cry they created at the time of floods in Kashmir in Sept 2014 with the quiet way the Chennaiites are dealing with a similar tragedy. Why so much difference? Because, those Kashmiris have been spoilt by successive Central Govts - spoilt brats, who think of nothing before blaming anything and everything on India & Indians.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Ramamurthy Venkateswaran
Re: Kashmiris need to learn.......
by Ramamurthy Venkateswaran on Dec 04, 2015 01:05 PM
Sir, Please don't quote instances, lest the hon'ble citizens and some parties in those regions would feel offended. There are some people in some regions who wish to survive on government subsidy / action, etc.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Rajagopal Nambakam
Re: Kashmiris need to learn.......
by Rajagopal Nambakam on Dec 04, 2015 01:33 PM
Very bad experience. But Its not just Kashmiris but our 100 Smart City Planners (Min of Urban Dev) & Participants at Paris Climate change who all have to learn what is development. You say no one imagined this could happen to Chennai but I knew but not the date & time. It happened to Mumbai 8 yrs ago & going to happen to all the Cities, all over the Planet, as per Environmentalists & Nostradamus too said it. We cant predict/stop Cyclones, Earth quakes but we can plan that the damage is minimum. We are planning only high rise apts but not water, seweage lines, roads, flyovers etc. in the name of development. In 1989 I have written to UN Environmental Protection Agency on these basic requirements which if not planned properly, will lead to (avoidable) disaster. I have even suggested a Mega Plan but they were expecting solutions for such problems from only Einstein & they did not even respond. Here is the proof of what happens if Cities are not planned without taking into consideration, not just the above but several other basics. Experts have accepted at COP 11 in 2011 at HYD that "we cant try to answer any single problem area in isolation since there is an overlapping affect of every problem over all the other problems. This point I had mentioned in 1989 to UNEPA but they were not only deaf & dumb but also blind. Now the whole World can see what has happened. Most of unplanned development started only after 1990 but with a Micro Plan & the dama

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Rajagopal Nambakam
Re: Kashmiris need to learn.......
by Rajagopal Nambakam on Dec 04, 2015 01:34 PM
Very bad experience. But Its not just Kashmiris but our 100 Smart City Planners (Min of Urban Dev) & Participants at Paris Climate change who all have to learn what is development. You say no one imagined this could happen to Chennai but I knew but not the date & time. It happened to Mumbai 8 yrs ago & going to happen to all the Cities, all over the Planet, as per Environmentalists & Nostradamus too said it. We cant predict/stop Cyclones, Earth quakes but we can plan that the damage is minimum. We are planning only high rise apts but not water, seweage lines, roads, flyovers etc. in the name of development. In 1989 I have written to UN Environmental Protection Agency on these basic requirements which if not planned properly, will lead to (avoidable) disaster. I have even suggested a Mega Plan but they were expecting solutions for such problems from only Einstein & they did not even respond. Here is the proof of what happens if Cities are not planned without taking into consideration, not just the above but several other basics. Experts have accepted at COP 11 in 2011 at HYD that "we cant try to answer any single problem area in isolation since there is an overlapping affect of every problem over all the other problems. This point I had mentioned in 1989 to UNEPA but they were not only deaf & dumb but also blind. Now the whole World can see what has happened. Most of unplanned development started only after 1990 but with a Micro Plan & the dam

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Rajagopal Nambakam
Re: Kashmiris need to learn.......
by Rajagopal Nambakam on Dec 04, 2015 01:34 PM
Very bad experience. But Its not just Kashmiris but our 100 Smart City Planners (Min of Urban Dev) & Participants at Paris Climate change who all have to learn what is development. You say no one imagined this could happen to Chennai but I knew but not the date & time. It happened to Mumbai 8 yrs ago & going to happen to all the Cities, all over the Planet, as per Environmentalists & Nostradamus too said it. We cant predict/stop Cyclones, Earth quakes but we can plan that the damage is minimum. We are planning only high rise apts but not water, seweage lines, roads, flyovers etc. in the name of development. In 1989 I have written to UN Environmental Protection Agency on these basic requirements which if not planned properly, will lead to (avoidable) disaster. I have even suggested a Mega Plan but they were expecting solutions for such problems from only Einstein & they did not even respond. Here is the proof of what happens if Cities are not planned without taking into consideration, not just the above but several other basics. Experts have accepted at COP 11 in 2011 at HYD that \"we cant try to answer any single problem area in isolation since there is an overlapping affect of every problem over all the other problems. This point I had mentioned in 1989 to UNEPA but they were not only deaf & dumb but also blind. Now the whole World can see what has happened. Most of unplanned development started only after 1990 but with a Micro Plan & the d

   Forward   |   'Report abuse' disabled by moderator
virendra gupta
Chennai
by virendra gupta on Dec 04, 2015 11:48 AM

Good article-buck up Chennai wallahs. I appreciate the writer Pavithra for highlighting "While the politics of this incident is an important issue that needs addressing, this is the wrong time to do it".
This can be discussed later on. What is important now is how quickly life for the poorest person becomes normal.
WE, in other parts of the country prey for you and wish you all the courage .
virendra

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Dheeru Sinha
Chennai Floods
by Dheeru Sinha on Dec 04, 2015 11:33 AM  | Hide replies

I fail to understand as to what the Author wants to convey by writting that Chennai floods were not properly covered in National media. What would have changed if so called more coverage was done by the National media. Author must have seen little/almost nil coverage of 9/11, 13/11& many other tragic events in developed countries. Does the author want to blame government at centre for the tragedy or create a divide in the society. Don't be so narrow minded pl.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
subramanya balaji
Re: Chennai Floods
by subramanya balaji on Dec 04, 2015 11:45 AM
Either you are insensitive to the disastrous natural calamity that has occurred or you are more inclined to the west like the paid media. The Paris terror attack was shown 24/7 in national channels vying with each other for competitive coverage but the floods in chennai were either not covered or had a passing mention in the entire news. Being in India issues concerning our country and states should be the priority and not the countries abroad.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
Common Man
Re: Re: Chennai Floods
by Common Man on Dec 04, 2015 02:36 PM
.
But how would that have affected the city and its people. Indian Media coverage only creates more panic and helps in no way

   Forward   |   Report abuse
subramanya balaji
Re: Chennai Floods
by subramanya balaji on Dec 04, 2015 11:45 AM
Either you are insensitive to the disastrous natural calamity that has occurred or you are more inclined to the west like the paid media. The Paris terror attack was shown 24/7 in national channels vying with each other for competitive coverage but the floods in chennai were either not covered or had a passing mention in the entire news. Being in India issues concerning our country and states should be the priority and not the countries abroad.

   Forward   |   Report abuse
venkatachalam varadarajan
Re: Chennai Floods
by venkatachalam varadarajan on Dec 04, 2015 11:52 AM
nothing would have changed but communication to other parts of india that such a huge disaster is happening in chennai and cuddalore , pondicherry which is ALSO apart of India
when a small piece of rain in mumbai for 4 to 5 hours these national media make a big news but as Mr rajdeep sardesai has said it has taken so long time (180 people dead) for national channels to wake up
when army started coming , they used the facility in the form of press media and now they are covering the incident
so let them be impartial

   Forward   |   Report abuse
parvathy  parvathy
diasaster
by parvathy parvathy on Dec 04, 2015 10:57 AM  | Hide replies

there is simmering dissent in this passage when it was said that it was man made disaster. That is the truth. when the government gave IT park in Coimbatore, there were no takers for it. When people have to do project for companies in US and UK what is the need to do it from chennai. These IT comapnies like TCS cognizant and Wipro were reluctant to go to coimbatore. Also so far other cities in Tamilnadu were not developed. Even bigger cities like madurai, coimbatore and Salem do not have any local train facility. All policy makes hail from chennai and all development projects were for chennai. Out of the 6 Crore population in Tamilnadu, one crore lives in chennai. Naturally this is man made disaster.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Rajagopal Nambakam
Re: diasaster
by Rajagopal Nambakam on Dec 04, 2015 01:58 PM
Madam, unfortunately you are only 1000% correct in yr analysis There was no need to swarm around Madras OR any other Indian City, none of which have been designed to take more than 10 Laks population. But everyone wants to reside next to Mount Road & this is the result. We need certain features to start
a manufacturing industry but not SW Company. Bombay was ruined during 50s & 60s with all the Industries & Business houses where there was no elbow place but Govt permitted population to grow from 30 laks to 130 laks. Our Town Planners go on Honeymoon, at Govt cost, to US,UK HK,Sing etc but do not see what improvements or changes, required for Indian cities. All the Babus want City posting while they can lead Royal life in smaller towns, with unlimited Govt luxuries free. Most of the business people want to live next to GPO or Rly Stn, even if its a Toilet. They dont mind living in cattle sheds for money. Added to this Town Planners (Govt) never bothered about any infrastructure, as long as they got money for all the services (Water,Electricity,Drainage cess, Road Tax etc.) which were hardly provided or adequate. We need, not a Micro Plan for each Small Town or City but we need a Mega Plan which takes into account the Whole
Country, including small Villages & hamlets. OR we have to continue to live like this for few more Centuries till India is collapsed under its own weight and has to be built from scratch (literally)

   Forward   |   Report abuse
parvathy  parvathy
diasaster
by parvathy parvathy on Dec 04, 2015 10:56 AM

there is simmering dissent in this passage when it was said that it was man made disaster. That is the truth. when the government gave IT park in Coimbatore, there were no takers for it. When people have to do project for companies in US and UK what is the need to do it from chennai. These IT comapnies like TCS cognizant and Wipro were reluctant to go to coimbatore. Also so far other cities in Tamilnadu were not developed. Even bigger cities like madurai, coimbatore and Salem do not have any local train facility. All policy makes hail from chennai and all development projects were for chennai. Out of the 6 Crore population in Tamilnadu, one crore lives in chennai. Naturally this is man made disaster.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
KRISHNAN  chidambaram
Chennai disaster
by KRISHNAN chidambaram on Dec 04, 2015 10:40 AM

Weldone, pavithra! You have told whatever we wanted to tell as a citizen of india, everywhere politics, corruption. Even news channels. They want only bad news. Let us pray for good to happen to our politics and politicians. But, our people in general are very accommodative and wish to help, always.

    Forward  |  Report abuse
Total 110 messages Pages: < Newer  | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5   Older >   >>
Write a message