Re: His visit to US WILL BE FRUITFUL
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:38 PM
US doesn't bother about India at all. India is nothing compared to China to USA. USA will think 100 times for China than for India, simply because of the size of the economy of the two countries. His visit will not bring any substantial investment in India. He will go, speak in UN and eat lunch with various dignitaries and come back to India. That is it.
Re: Re: His visit to US WILL BE FRUITFUL
by devedas bhaskar on Sep 22, 2014 09:23 PM
perhaps u r right.we need not expext anything gr8.but yes some benefits for both india and US. But dont forget on thing:Modi forced the US to eat humble pie...they denied him a visa for so long......now they r rolling out the red carpet fr him!!!
Re: Re: His visit to US WILL BE FRUITFUL
by Against Pseudos on Sep 23, 2014 02:15 AM
Sys: Why are you worried what US gives importance to and what it dies not give importance to?
All these years people used to feel that Politicians travel to other countries is something very official and some meeting will happen. But With Modi's leadership, people are beginning to talk about the contribution of other countries in our country's growth. With his election agenda, people started to speak about Growth Model(good or bad). With his foreign travel people are talking about partnership(good or bad) of other countries. I think this in itself is a big change
Re: Focus Changed
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:33 PM
You said it correctly, "Started to Talk". It will be limited to that, always. Under his leadership, India will not get any investment from anywhere in the world. He can only talk and talk and talk and talk.
Re: Re: Re: Focus Changed
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:42 PM
Yes, I am talking the fundamentals of wisdom of a person. Ask yourself how much you are practical versus how much you are simply following a person. PFollowing a person is not bad, if that brings good to you. Does following Modi brings good to anybody? My point is he has no capability. He can only talk. Under his administration, in last 100 days, China has crossed India's border largest amount of time compared to Congress time. Under his administration in these 100 days Pakistan has dared India to tale back whole Kashmir. What are you talking about his leadership?
Americans have never supported India, they are only eyeing our markets to sell their goods.They give billion dollars aid to Pakistan,who fool them with the bogey of Al Qaida and other terrorists organisation.Obama needs funds for the next Presidential elections and he is very keen to please the arms lobby which is the major fund raiser for his party.Hence Modi should be careful in dealing with Americans.
Re: Modi should be careful
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:24 PM
USA will only fund if (1) they get facilities in India to invest, like tax benefits, protection of patents, etc and (2) they have enough extra obsolete technology to sell to third world countries. They never sell their primary technology to countries like India.
It is unfortunate for the Indian people that we have to accept this person as our PM. Manmohan Singh was never like him, dramabaaz. MMS never spoke, only when he thought he could do something positive he spoke. He never spoke just to get the limelight. Modi is an attention seeker, because he knows he has only this quality of speaking, nothing else. I guess it is obvious. There must be a difference between an Oxford graduate and a chaa wala. It shows in their behavior.
Re: Modi
by Tukaram on Sep 22, 2014 08:12 PM
The truth has come out in your statement only... MMS never spoke, only when he thought he could do something positive he spoke..
Since he did not do any positive, hence he never spoke, he he he
Re: Re: Modi
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:17 PM
Yes, he was bounded by his people, especially Sonia. No body can deny that. Similarly Modi is not free also, he is bounded by Sangha Paribar. Don't think that he can do whaever he likes. But the difference is he likes to talk and talk big things before he can even put his hands on. He proposed 100 tech cities. Is that possible? What happened to his promise? How much investment has he brought? He only knows how to use sentiment between two communities.
Re: Re: Modi
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:30 PM
This happens when you read and worship Modi too much. Get realistic and open your eyes. See how much our government actually does before you support them. But I guess to do that you need to have some brain matter, which I seriously doubt you have. Have you ever read articles written by people like Arundhuti Roy, Katju, Kuldeep Nair? I guess you never heard about them yet.
Re: Modi
by G A Krishnan on Sep 22, 2014 10:54 PM
You are welcome to your views but majority of the countrymen have thought it otherwise. Enough of crawling under done for long. Better to hold our heads high. Fate has brought a Chaiwala to do it when the so called educated class failed us.
Everything boils down to the question: how much investment will this trip bring back from USA? Until that figure is determined, the actual investment figure, not the figures signed in MOU, will be the factor for determination if Modi's visit was successful of not. People of India have seen enough of this dramabazi of Narendra Modi. The reports present this trip in such a way that he is the only person visiting New York this time. All all leaders who are visiting New York during this time for the UN meeting are getting same coverage in their respective media. Indian people think Barak Obama is only meeting with Modi. But he is meeting with as many leaders as possible and he has a busy schedule in which Modi is just a time slot. People should be realistic instead of jumping. I am waiting for Achche Din, still counting on Modi.
Re: Re: Investment
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:01 PM
Looks like common people like you have lost brain to comprehend the reality. Worship Mod more and you will be liberated.
Re: Re: Investment
by yerum bhatt on Sep 22, 2014 09:23 PM
Naileshji, as per ur logic our countrymen also must be extremely unhappy in India nai...lots of Indians in US, Australia, Canada, UAE< Dubai, Bahrain etc... Citizens of Gaza, Egypt, Libya, Iran, Yemen, Malaysia & Indonesia are quite happy in their respective countries and are fighting against the external intervention of countries like US, France,UK etc in their internal matters. Something like what Bhagat Singh, Azad, Veer Savarkar, Netaji did for our country in their own way...they also took to violence to fight against occupiers !
Re: Investment
by Ashish Sharma on Sep 22, 2014 08:07 PM
On one hand you say it's dramabazi of Narendra Modi, on the other hand you say all people visiting UN meeting are getting the same coverage... so either they all are dramabaz or your expression is an exaggeration. And do you really think US President has all the time to be part of this Dramabazi? As an Indian, why should we be concerned about coverage to other leaders. We are only concerned about Indo-US relationship.
Secondly, meeting with US is not all about investment... its also about collaboration on strategic fronts, knowledge sharing and several other global issues where India can play an important role.
Re: Re: Investment
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:14 PM
if anybody has ever done anything good for India-USA relation, it was Vajpayee. During his administration he was able to make India as a friend of USA and he was able to renew the friendship. Clinton was Democratic president, as Obama is. How much difference do you observe now? Do you think Obama is of same type like Clinton? What new relation will he make with India? For Modi, the first priority is to bring investment, if he can.
Re: Re: Investment
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:31 PM
This happens when you read and worship Modi too much. Get realistic and open your eyes. See how much our government actually does before you support them. But I guess to do that you need to have some brain matter, which I seriously doubt you have. Have you ever read articles written by people like Arundhuti Roy, Katju, Kuldeep Nair? I guess you never heard about them yet.
Re: Re: Re: Investment
by giveanid on Sep 23, 2014 06:53 AM
Sys: Arundhati Roy, Katju and Co. have written books on how to transform a country in 180 days? Great... I'd love to read them.... :)
Re: Re: Re: to media
by Against Pseudos on Sep 22, 2014 07:52 PM
Ha ha ha ha ha. Never ask MMS during 10 years but expect others to ask Modi within 10 weeks. :-)
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: to media
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 08:27 PM
You were brain washed by people like Modi. The $35 B was a commitment (a maximum limit), not a pledge. Do you understand the difference between them? Do you understand the difference between a MOU (Memorandum of Understanding) and actual investment? How much Japan will actually invest will depend on local factor like benefits from the administration. Read another news item from Rediff few days ago on the conditions Japan imposed on funding. Can India meet those conditions?
Re: to media
by Syz on Sep 22, 2014 07:30 PM
I totally agree with you. The news media is behaving like paid agents of Modi, as if he is the only PM who is visiting New York this time. There should be a limit on propaganda. I am really tired of news papers resorting this trick of creating drama. What is the big deal of this visit? He needs to show he has been able to bring some actual investment. Actual investments come through the negotiations of back channels, not doing dramabazi like this. He is more interested to prove himself as a person acceptable to the world than to perform for his country.
Looking at the world and its complex dynamics, it is high time the largest two democracies work hand-in-hand for their own prosperity and world peace. There will always be issues to be debated and divergent perspectives. But, when it comes to one to one relationship, true mutual respect should prevail.
