Why does not Mr. Shah list out a few if not all the errors and deliberate mischiefs in the book rather than go on and on saying there are errors and that he has lit a fire? I have the book; I have read it. If those errors are genuinely mischievous, I would like to challenge her with facts rather than haranguing the public.
Re: Errors in Doniger's book on Hinduism
by Mind Clear on Mar 01, 2014 07:58 PM
Read reason behind Advocate Dinanath Batra's view on why he fought legally against the book by Wendy Doniger. Everyone has freedom to object also, legally.
If I am dissatisfied with a book, the best answer would be to write another book in protest, and not to demand a ban on that book. Unfortunately, some people do not understand this simple truth.
Re: The best answer ...
by shailesh tupe on Mar 01, 2014 12:51 PM
If I am not satisfied with the book then (1) I should have talent to write another book in short time, (2) I should got a publisher to publish my work in short time, (3) my book should be read by those who have offended me. Do you think it is so simple?
At last they came ,satan of freedom of speech. it is common sense if somebody abuse your mother it is not freedom of speech thank you neo american good day
There must be voluteers to safeguard the attacks of vested interest groups on Hinduism with malafide intention. Foreign funding with fake charity and NGO's mushrooming in India and spread its ugly head with active support of governments. So it is much more important keep a vigil on such anti-national and anti-hindu groups.
We can empathize with the aggrieved people who worked together to get the book banned, even while not agreeing with what they did. As an expression of anger, there is emotional truth in their concerted effort which deserves respect.
However, Hinduism is likely to be better off, if all criticism of it is heard and dispelled by reason. The legal breach does more harm than good, and hopefully shall not become an unhealthy trend.
Re: Emotion matters, reason matters more
by Mind Clear on Mar 01, 2014 06:52 AM
There is no anger here. If there was anger there would have bombings, beheadings and mob fury. There is total reason here at play. Logically dealing with it with legal route. That's the best possible route for reason, rather than emotion.
Re: Re: Emotion matters, reason matters more
by Mind Clear on Mar 01, 2014 06:55 AM
Penguin did not retracted the book by itself or through threats.. they took the book back because it was proved in the court that this book is factually flawed and contains deliberate lies. So they offered 'out of court settlement'.
Re: Re: Re: Emotion matters, reason matters more
by Ramesh on Mar 01, 2014 08:12 AM
Court is not the place to prove such academic matters, and banning books on such grounds not a solution.
Colonial law had a perspective to law making which is quite different from the world view and needs of a free society, which is India.
Re: Re: Emotion matters, reason matters more
by Ramesh on Mar 01, 2014 08:17 AM
Anger does not always need to violence. If the truth in it is received with discipline, leads to productive action. Think some good purpose has also been served here, hence deserves respect. Hopefully, it will also lead to revising archaic laws to strengthen the legal base for free speech.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Emotion matters, reason matters more
by shailesh tupe on Mar 01, 2014 01:13 PM
Mod, why are you deleting? I just want to highlight the views of Advocate Dinanath Batra. What would one do if an author writes and publishes something out of anger? Do u accept & move on and get ready to be abused much more in future? Ramesh Sir, Just as many people have been telling to read Wendy Doniger's book, similarly I would request all to read reason behind Advocate Dinanath Batra's view on why he fought legally against the book by Wendy Doniger. Everyone has freedom to object also, legally.
Re: Emotion matters, reason matters more
by shailesh tupe on Mar 01, 2014 10:49 AM
Sir, you are right but these academicians are not willing to seat across you and discuss their mistakes because they are proud about themselves and don't think that they can be ever wrong about their view about actual living hindus. This was just a small victory to get their & other's attention who follow these academicians blindly because it bolsters their ego by putting other's culture down.
First people like Sir Willaim Jones , Max Muller and many other western people who wrote articles about hinduism learnt Sankrit in Germany and other places and started to interpret scriptures via a limited knowledge and never ever visited India. Our Scholors like Tikal, Radhakrishnan read all this and were influenced in a wrong way. For Ex: Max Muller calls Garg Garh of temple as Womb house, Ashva meda Yagna as killing of horse. Infact the British created thier own Sankrit dictionary , for ex: Hiranya Garb means maya..but Max thought it was Golden Germ..
Unfortunately indians didnt know English when all this was published in 1800/1900's and after independence indian scholars are looking at this and laughing at the poor quality of the British Scholarship.
Now the western people like donkier...are referencing to such works and building on the previous poor quality/scholarship work...to get awards in the west. Sanskrit and its works is best analyzed by non materialistic poeple..Westerners least qualified in this aspect.
Some poeple say let debate the book...most certianly lets debate..but will the debate be published as a book?..certianly not..so the debate can be won and will fade away from public discourse where as a poor authership book will stay in public discouse for generation..
Read "True History and Relegion of Indian" book avaialble in Amazon..not aleternative history by Dogier
Re: let debate but
by venu kannur on Mar 01, 2014 12:12 PM
Maxmuller was a christian missionery who came to India to convert Hindus to christianity but became a devotee of Hinduism But his knowledge in Sankrit was not deep but only wide
He doesnt knoe devanagari lipi, but someone wrote sankrit words in English alphabet and he read it and he wrongly read and undertood many words
For example
vicharam was writeen as vicaram and Maxmuller read it as vikaram
As a result, the word thought was considered as emotion! charanam (foot) was written as caranam, and maxmuller read it as karanam which means ear!
Many examples are given by prof Vishnu Narayan Namboothiri. Please read.
First people like Sir Willaim Jones , Max Muller and many other western people who wrote articles about hinduism learnt Sankrit in Germany and other places and started to interpret scriptures via a limited knowledge and never ever visited India. Our Scholors like Tikal, Radhakrishnan read all this and were influenced in a wrong way. For Ex: Max Muller calls Garg Garh of temple as Womb house, Ashva meda Yagna as killing of horse. Infact the British created thier own Sankrit dictionary , for ex: Hiranya Garb means maya..but Max thought it was Golden Germ..
Unfortunately indians didnt know English when all this was published in 1800/1900's and after independence indian scholars are looking at this and laughing at the poor quality of the British Scholarship.
Now the western people like donkier...are referencing to such works and building on the previous poor quality/scholarship work...to get awards in the west. Sanskrit and its works is best analyzed by non materialistic poeple..Westerners least qualified in this aspect.
Some poeple say let debate the book...most certianly lets debate..but will the debate be published as a book?..certianly not..so the debate can be won and will fade away from public discourse where as a poor authership book will stay in public discouse for generation..
Read "True History and Relegion of Indian" book avaialble in Amazon..not aleternative history by Dogier
