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Pranabda and the burden of two past Presidents


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Grizzly
People of India are waking up!
by Grizzly on Jul 20, 2012 04:28 PM  | Hide replies

And if pranab becomes President and does not follow the true traditoin of being loyal to the people, hw will go down in the black books of history!

sonia-raoul clan is a dddyyinnng breed and they know it. India is no longer under the full control of nehru-gandhi clan and the eviilldoers will soon find themselves shunned and kicked out!

pranab better find the right side to be on when the time comes!

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dinesh shivhare
Re: People of India are waking up!
by dinesh shivhare on Jul 20, 2012 04:42 PM
in fact present system of president's election is not democratic system, its a political system, atleast president must b man free from political parties atleast last five years,

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CongressConspiracyy
TheRaoEffect
by CongressConspiracyy on Jul 19, 2012 11:56 PM


Congress really needs a PVNarasimhaRao,
but such a politician-statesman is not there.

By a quirk of fate, Rao was made PM.
He was the REAL drivingForce (NOT ManmohanSingh).

This is obviously true.

Rao brought India intact out of the SovietCollapse,
crafted the IsraeliArmsSupplyLifeline with subterfuge,
saved JandK and Punjab,
and unleashed our entrepreneurial energies.


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P Dutta
Pranabda as President ?
by P Dutta on Jul 19, 2012 08:01 AM  | Hide replies

Comments like 'even a lacklustre politician became prime minister' about PV Narsimha Rao shows how the author lacks identifying 'brilliance' even in over 50 years of mediocrity in congress rule dominated mainly by Nehru-Gandhi dynasty. His era will be characterised in history as the only shining lotus in the filth of the dynasty's rule. He had shown to his fellow congressmen and the country at large as to how 'positivity' in approach to problems can give rich dividends. Even our present day's 'failed' Prime Minister could deliver supremely under his guidance.

As far as Pranabda is concerned he may have been rebellious during his young age, but of late he has shown to be one among the biggest sycophants of the Gandhi family. In addition he has been a miserable failure in the Finance Ministry which needed brain and brilliance. He has shown that he lacks both. The future only will prove if he will be any better than Fakhruddin Ali Ahmed and Giani Zail Singh

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CongressConspiracyy
Re: Pranabda as President ?
by CongressConspiracyy on Jul 19, 2012 11:56 PM


Congress really needs a PVNarasimhaRao,
but such a politician-statesman is not there.

By a quirk of fate, Rao was made PM.
He was the REAL drivingForce (NOT ManmohanSingh).

This is obviously true.

Rao brought India intact out of the SovietCollapse,
crafted the IsraeliArmsSupplyLifeline with subterfuge,
saved JandK and Punjab,
and unleashed our entrepreneurial energies.


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prakash sharma
all our politicians....
by prakash sharma on Jul 19, 2012 05:19 AM  | Hide replies

are not fit to be even Peasants of this country ..forget President !!

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Jashodaben NarendraModi
Re: all our politicians....
by Jashodaben NarendraModi on Jul 19, 2012 07:49 AM
INDIA POLICITANS FROM BJP ARE GOOD FOR BRIBING, WOMENIZING (MOLESTING CHILDREN MOSTLY..)... OR KILLING OTHER INDIANS...


NAME ONE BJP POLITICAN WHO DID NOT KILL, LOOT OR MOLEST (OTHER THAN VAJPAYEE)

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aam admi
Re: Re: all our politicians....
by aam admi on Jul 19, 2012 07:51 PM
all Congress MP's and MLA's are innocent and honest and sacrificing their lives for the country.
Is it true????????

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dinesh shivhare
Re: Re: all our politicians....
by dinesh shivhare on Jul 20, 2012 04:50 PM
Jashodaben

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arsad khan
Re: Re: all our politicians....
by arsad khan on Jul 21, 2012 10:42 AM
Congress does not have even exception.From Nehru to present congrssies,all belong to this category.

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Ramachandran venkatesh
Accuracy
by Ramachandran venkatesh on Jul 19, 2012 05:06 AM  | Hide replies

Fakuriddin Ali Ahmed died sometime in period Feb-March 1977. How could be sign the emergency declaration on 25th of June 1977.

To Rediff- Please do proof reading before posting articles on the net

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Sri Atluru
Re: Accuracy
by Sri Atluru on Jul 19, 2012 05:53 AM
My dear Mr. Accuracy,

Why don't you proofread your posts first. The emergency was declared on 25 June 1975 and not in 1977.

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Sreejith Sasi
Re: Re: Accuracy
by Sreejith Sasi on Jul 19, 2012 09:23 AM
The comment by Accuracy makes sense - As per the article, emergency was declared on June 25, 1977. In this case how a person died on Feb 1977 can sign the declaration.

Emergency was declared on 1975, but this rediff article says 1977.

Any how, its rediff so we can expect only these standards.

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Dipak Bose
Re: Accuracy
by Dipak Bose on Jul 19, 2012 06:33 AM
Fakir Uddin as the home minister of Assam had invited Muslims from east Pakistan to come to Assam to kill the Bengali Hindus.


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Jashodaben NarendraModi
Re: Re: Accuracy
by Jashodaben NarendraModi on Jul 19, 2012 07:47 AM
BJP/RSS SAYS BANGALDESH IS A PART OF INDIA!!! FAKRUDDIN WAS A BJP AGENT TRYING TO UNIFY INDIA

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aam admi
Re: Re: Re: Accuracy
by aam admi on Jul 19, 2012 07:55 PM
Sadly he died in very mysterious circustances. Is it true?

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Jashodaben NarendraModi
Re: Accuracy
by Jashodaben NarendraModi on Jul 19, 2012 07:46 AM
FAKURDDIN DIES IN 1977 YOU IDIOT

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Ramesh
President can only be the last line of defence
by Ramesh on Jul 19, 2012 03:54 AM  | Hide replies

To safeguard against installation of dynasty President is only the last line of defence, which can be exercised only if there is fractured polity. It is more important to create the checks and balances in INC itself.

It is tragic to see that glorious INC which under Mahatma delivered India from British rule is full of people who by hook or crook want to install dynastic scion at helm. The rationale for this variant of Shintoism is not clear, and can not be explained on grounds of opportunity to loot alone. Their psychological dependence is not understood and may spring out of genuine concern for integrity and stability of the nation.

Rahul thinks RSS is more dangerous than SIMI. The kind of policing disaster which awaits RSS with Youth Congress storm troopers let loose if he becomes PM may have been underestimated.

Rahul if he becomes PM will certainly also be able to garner support from Western democracies for such repression, particularly with backing from evangelists. RSS will become the new Naxals for Indian administration.

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Ramesh
Re: President can only be the last line of defence
by Ramesh on Jul 19, 2012 04:04 AM
It seems absurd to depend on reforms with INC to defend RSS. That seems to be the only option since BJP has been unable to upgrade itself to Bharatiyata thereby preclude need for any such tension.

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Ramesh
Re: President can only be the last line of defence
by Ramesh on Jul 19, 2012 04:14 AM
The new word which Mr Savarkar coined is rooted in an outsider perspective. At best it provides a 10,000 meters above perspective of the society and its culture. Think of a tent outside the walls of a city, from which a person who had never been inside the city is struggling to verbalize the experiences of life within, and coins a new word. Clearly the word will provide no clue to life within, but shall be useful to make an external sense.

Bharatiyata on the other hand has very deep etymology and has been in use in all parts of the nation. It is also associated with the Goddess of learning. Poets, religious exponents, scholars all have dwelt widely and in depth on the word. Each and every Indian language finds the word Bharati integral to it, and it is found acceptable to Indians of all religions and all castes within Sanatana Dharma.

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Ramesh
Re: Re: President can only be the last line of defence
by Ramesh on Jul 19, 2012 04:34 AM
Think, that it is Bal Gangadhar Tilak, and not Veer Savarkar who ought to be the leitmotif of BJP led NDA. For he is the major exponent of religious right component of Freedom movement actually sprung and who is a claimant to genuine religious scholarship, while Mr Savarkar was an atheist.

Mr Gokhale on the other hand took more moderate and modernistic outlook and invited Mahatama to lead the nation. His remarkable foresight proved out to be a turning point for India.

While the assertive vision of Tilak has remained unfulfilled, side-stepped so far by a relative minor in history, Veer Savarkar.

Righting this wrong in favor of ethos for genuine religious scholarship and respect for secular rule of law inherent in Tilak world-view who gave the conception of Poorna Swaraj to India would make eminent sense.

The noble thoughts within idea of India has been set aside by dynastic demonism within INC, and tragically BJP is unable to imbibe Bharatiyata and step out of Hindutva tent and move into the city.

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Ramesh
Re: Re: Re: President can only be the last line of defence
by Ramesh on Jul 19, 2012 06:10 AM
The men who coined the word Hindu utterly defeated Bharat and ruled over it for centuries. Those who abide by its word derivative are unwittingly sowing seeds for repeat defeat and perhaps for an even longer period.

Unlike Bharatiyata, there is no viveka in the word coined by Mr. Savarkar; for there can be no viveka sans Bhakti. Viveka is prerequisite to ensure victory.

Instead the Savarkar coinage has only led to division amongst Hindus and serious communal charge from honorable people.

With assimilation of Bharatiyata, even the loyalist policemen dare misuse his authority against its proponents. The whole legal infrastructure shall rise to safeguard the adherents. More relevant, the political discourse set in motion by marg-darshan of viveka shall be of superior order, to even preclude any conflicting course which causes strife and mutual defeat.

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Ramesh
Re: Re: Re: Re: President can only be the last line of defence
by Ramesh on Jul 19, 2012 06:11 AM
With assimilation of Bharatiyata, even the loyalist policemen dare not misuse his authority against its proponents.

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Ramesh
Re: Re: Re: Re: President can only be the last line of defence
by Ramesh on Jul 19, 2012 07:18 AM
Hindutva has provided no guidance on crony capitalism. Think, Bharatiyata with its implicit integration to values of Indian Constitution, may be a superior enabler of genuine market economy.

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kallol paul
Re: Re: President can only be the last line of defence
by kallol paul on Jul 22, 2012 05:14 AM
Ramesh Babu...nice to see yr long narratives often on.Let me add few lines with due respect to you and yr quest.Hindutva if in present modern era, context ( often used by BJP) can be termed as something basic or fundamental or microscopic in pursuit. Then the term Hinduism as is considered as way of life specially throughout the history of Bharat,is telescopic in nature.

Since telescope and microscope are principally the same instrument looked in opposite way,I do find this non integration of Hindutva BJP and Liberal telescopic hinduism of INC quite comic at times.

For me BJP is not fundamental enough to acknowledge that is there is no god.Where as INC has no clue about the pursuit of god particle.

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Dipak Bose
Re: President can only be the last line of defence
by Dipak Bose on Jul 19, 2012 09:03 AM
It is tragic to see that glorious INC which under Mahatma delivered India from British rule is full of people who by hook or crook want to install dynastic scion at helm.

It was Gandhi who had created this Nehru-Gandhi dynasty.


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siva
the great pm PV ...
by siva on Jul 19, 2012 03:08 AM

... is called as lackluster shows how educated this guy and how much influenced by the Gandhi era (who is not a Gandhian themselves).

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vamsidhar reddy
why do Inidian government requires President
by vamsidhar reddy on Jul 18, 2012 10:27 PM

we all knew its rubberstamp...still y do v need it...the present rubber stamp spent 250 crore for her foreign trips.We could have spent this for some good reasons.

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solnishka
Mr TVR Shenoy
by solnishka on Jul 18, 2012 08:27 PM  | Hide replies

"Sonia Gandhi had already seen just how formidable a rival the dynasty faced when even a lacklustre politician became prime minister -- precisely what happened in the P V Narasimha Rao era"

Calling Late P V R Narasimha Rao a lackluster PM is not called for. You should have given the credit due to him. He was one of the finest PMs on India under whom India re-emerged and came out of the shackles of License Raj only to become an Entrepreneur driven economy. He is also called as the "Apara Chanakya" of the modern times. He was the one to bring in DR Man Mohan Singh as the FM of those days. Somehow talent is never recognized in India. Only because of his the fact that he did not cared for the Nehru dynasty that he met with such a fate. At least we should be able to narrate history without any fears Shenoy!


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srini vasu
Re: Mr TVR Shenoy
by srini vasu on Jul 18, 2012 09:01 PM
I totally agree with solnishka. On what grounds the writer has called Great PV Narasimha rao lacklustre. DO you have any political knowledge when you make such statements. He is such a unbiased priminister and he has shown the world what India can be.

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srini vasu
Re: Re: Mr TVR Shenoy
by srini vasu on Jul 18, 2012 09:06 PM
The writer can not just write based on his own assumptions or what ever comes to his mind. I really never expected to see such irresponsible comments against the GREAT PV Narasimha rao by any writer or coloumnist or jounalist. Today's India that we see is just because of him.

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Ramachandran venkatesh
Re: Mr TVR Shenoy
by Ramachandran venkatesh on Jul 19, 2012 05:13 AM
A good leader is a person who brings out the best in his subordinate and thus makes him perform better under his guidance than he would if he were independent.

PV Narasimha Rao elevated Manmohan Singh to the post of Finance Minister. In that 5 year period, Manmohan singh was so impressive that the educated people of India expected something extraordinary when he became the PM in 2004.

What is their verdict today.- MM is the weakest, most incompetent PM India has ever had.

Is PV Narasimha rao not the greatest leader this country has ever had?

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