//They [Franks] drove Muslims out of Spain in 15th century and saved Europe from barbarians.
Until 15th Century,Spain is known as cultural center of universe, Crusades and ferdinand destroyed millions of books and library in spain.
If you have no idea about medeival period,please check Averroes,Avicenna,Al-Khwarzimi,Ibn Khaldun,Islamic Golden Age in wiki. Islamic civilization in medeival period not only belongs to muslims,but also chirstians,jews,hindus who came together in bagahad and exchange ideas and thoughts.
//They [British] put an end to Muslim rule in India. In 1857 they crushed brutal Muslim domination in India and liberated Hindus.
Its same Portuguese/Spanish/British/french/dutch invasion to India brought proverty.
Renaissance is result of 200-400 cultural interactions of barbaric and ignorant europeans and Cultural/Scientific Muslim world.
Once Constantinople is closed,Large number of philosophers and scentists went back to europe and fight against church. As a result,Church and Religion is dead in europe.
There are lot similarities between christians fundamentalists in 15th century and muslim fundamentalists in 20 th century.
Re: Dear Missionary
by Carlos jackal on May 30, 2011 05:40 PM
Do you remember what happened to nalanda and taxshila?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dear Missionary
by Carlos jackal on May 30, 2011 05:57 PM
Why are you asking me when I have told from where you can get the inforomation.
Swami Vivekanand said India is madhouse of religions. Actually it is madhouse of religions and ideologies. With hinduism in decline there is very little reason for the bits and pieces of India to stick together.
Re: Re: Re: Madhouse of religions
by Carlos jackal on May 30, 2011 05:33 PM
if it is dying in the west, it will resurrect in the east. we will harvest thesouls of all indians.
Re: Re: Madhouse of religions
by Pradip on May 30, 2011 05:32 PM | Hide message
Unfortunately, that is only not going to happen....because the West wants a more profound religion like $@natana Dh@rma and not mundane words like 'JC l0ves you..."
Re: Madhouse of religions
by Ajith Blr on May 30, 2011 05:34 PM
He told about kerala "lunatic assylum of castes". With the advent of semitic faiths and iseologies such as Marxism Kerala came out of that mould. As far as caste Hindus live in a state of denial, Hinduism dont have any future. It should be refromed alonng buddhist line there should only one varna or caste , people should be able to choose any proffession or way during their life time. Aplogists of caste system depicts varnashram as division of labour but in practice it has become a stratification of society , this needs to destroyed . There was News report in Bihar a medical college has 3 mess system 1. Brahmin2. Thakkur 3.Backawrds then imagine about the plight of the common village folks !!!!!!
Re: Madhouse of religions
by vndobell on May 30, 2011 05:35 PM
Swami vivekananda was a great useless product ever born in the land of india, moreover he did nothing but to gave some useless unscientific Utopian thaoghts for Indians, which nobody is following.
And in a survey BBC find the Carl marx was the most influenced personality born in last 2000 years.
Re: Re: Madhouse of religions
by Parichay on May 30, 2011 06:00 PM
Hi me too believe in communism. Regarding Vivekananda - in 18th Century if a person can say 'read physics and play football instead of reading Geeta' and 'people believe in astrology need psychiatric help' he definitely deserve a hats-off. I think he knew that Indian in 18th century was not ready for concepts like Marxism as the basic was not at all there and we were all stuck into deep, rigid cast-system that is why he suggested to correct the basic. Please note that both Marx and Vivekananda are among the first few people who could have said that it is about "Globalhood" not about race, class and all.
I too don't support the spirituality angle of Vivekananda and always criticize that but also acknowledge the part that is aligned with modern socio-economy.
Re: Re: Re: Madhouse of religions
by vndobell on May 30, 2011 06:04 PM
good, but dialectical materialism is the base of Marx theory which forced him to write Capital, which is the main reason why the whole world still shivering with the name of Communism, Vivekananda is just a DOT infornt of karl Marx
Re: Re: GOOD THINGS DONE BY CHRISTIANS TO THE WORLD
by Ahamed on May 30, 2011 05:25 PM
Its same Portuguese/Spanish/British/french/dutch invasion to India brought proverty.
Re: Re: Re: GOOD THINGS DONE BY CHRISTIANS TO THE WORLD
by Carlos jackal on May 30, 2011 05:29 PM
History repeats itself as a farce; some others did the same with nalanda and taxshila.
Re: Re: Religion is the reason of a lot of problem
by Pat Thakur on May 30, 2011 05:25 PM
So you mean that India should be made a joint islamic - christian republic & Hinduism killed forever (exactly as crafty kangress wants it) right?
Re: Re: Re: Religion is the reason of a lot of problem
by Parichay on May 30, 2011 06:03 PM
can't you read English? I am talking about throwing the concept of religion out of society. As all these are baseless and harmful.
Re: Religion is the reason of a lot of problem
by Again on May 30, 2011 05:28 PM
comrade, put ur gun towards 1sslam, and cristianity but u self against moron communist-anti-hyndu people, all will do only against hynduism only! before throwing relegeon, communism shud be thrown out of the world because communists r biased!
Indians will remain their tendency forever to fight on some useless issue like hindu muslim,
Its a great market for foreigners where they can find a great purchasing power of medium class with sick and feudalistic mind to fight on the na me of religion LOL
Religious distress is at the same time the expression of real distress and the protest against real distress. Religion is the sigh of the oppressed creature, the heart of a heartless world, just as it is the spirit of a spiritless situation. It is the opium of the people. The abolition of religion as the illusory happiness of the people is required for their real happiness. The demand to give up the illusion about its condition is the demand to give up a condition which needs illusions
Re: Religion biggest lie and illusion of the world
by Again on May 30, 2011 05:30 PM
comrade, put ur gun towards 1sslam, and cristianity but u self against moron communist-anti-hyndu people, all will do only against hynduism only! before throwing relegeon, communism shud be thrown out of the world because communists r biased!
Re: Re: Religion biggest lie and illusion of the world
by Parichay on May 30, 2011 05:10 PM
Not a new one quite old - atheism.
1) Jawaharlal Nehru, the first Prime Minister of India. 2) Beechi, the Kannada humourist-philosopher, whose 'positive atheism' is similar to that of Douglas Adams. 3) Kamal Haasan, filmmaker and actor, known for making films having themes of both Atheism and Brahminical Hinduism. 4) Sathyaraj, actor. 5) M. Karunanidhi, the Chief Minister of Tamil Nadu.[11] 6) H. Narasimhaiah, freedom fighter and socialist. 7) Bhagat Singh, one of the most well-known figures in the Indian independence movement, was an atheist. 8) Narendra Nayak, president of Federation of Indian Rationalist Associations 9) Adithya, Actor 10) V.S. Achuthanandan, the present Chief Minister of Kerala 11) Abraham Kovoor 12) S. Nijalingappa, former chief minister of Karnataka. 13) Debashis Chatterjee, secretary of Science and Rationalists' Association of India. 14) Vijay Tendulkar[12] – a famous Marathi writer and dramatist who was also known to be an atheist. 15) P. L. Deshpande, A notable Marathi writer and artist. 16) Baba Amte, A notable social activist. 17) Dr. Shriram Lagoo, notable actor and rationalist activist. 18) Ram Gopal Varma, film director.[13] 19) Poornachandra Tejaswi, prominent Kannada writer 20) Irfan Habib 21) Romila Thapar 22) Amol Palekar, famous Bollywood actor. 23) Javed Akhtar, famous poet, lyricist and scriptwriter.
Re: Re: Re: Religion biggest lie and illusion of the world
by Dulal Das on May 30, 2011 05:30 PM
1) VS is ex CM of Kerala. 2) Bhagat Singh is the complete revolutionary India has ever produced. His life is a teaching to us. India's polity would have changed had he been not hanged. Cong under MKG's leadership did nothing to prevent His hanging. That is why MKG was shown black flags....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Religion biggest lie and illusion of the world
by Parichay on May 30, 2011 06:07 PM
you need mental help. There is some weakness in you that make you believe in super natural and influence you to narrate athesim in this way.
"...The Catholic Church had made a bad mistake with Galileo when it tried to lay down the law on a question of science, declaring that the sun went around the Earth. Now, centuries later, it had decided it would be better to invite a number of experts to advise it on Cosmology. At the end of the conference the participants were granted an audience with the pope. He told that it was okay to study the evolution of the universe after the big bang, but we should not inquire into the big bahng itself because that was the moment of creation and therefore the work of God. I was glad that he did not know the subject of the talk I had just given at the conference. I had no desire to share the fate of Galileo...." - Stephen W. Hawking. The difference between poor and rich cannot be wiped out by mere religion....It requires study of wealth generated by people and its distribution to themselves... Let the religion be at individual's helm. There are crores of people who do not follow any religion but serves human/spciety without any personal interest.
