Certain individuals are trying their level best to insult other communities on this board. My suggestion to them is that they should take their biased views and shive it up their own rear-ends.
Re: Certain individuals
by sujit sengupta on May 04, 2011 05:42 PM
NO one is trying to insult other communities.Its BIman babu who has admitted defeat(though he could not do that directly)...and people are only rejoicing on that.
Re: Re: Certain individuals
by sumit mukherjee on May 04, 2011 05:53 PM
sujit, please stop being juvenile. not everything is about CPM and TMC. i was specifically referring to 2 individuals on this board who have been using abusive language against some communities. these ppl's msgs have been deleted by the moderator now, thankfully. since you're not aware of the facts, please refrain from commenting on this matter.
Re: Re: Re: Certain individuals
by sujit sengupta on May 05, 2011 10:52 AM
Ok...i admit that I have not atleast seen any insulting messages.If anyone has said somehting like that even I object to it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Certain individuals
by sumit mukherjee on May 06, 2011 02:22 PM
That is the problem Sujit. You are always objecting to things without ascertaining facts. What are you objecting to? What is your opposition against? Who are you protesting against? What is your agenda in this matter? But, i guess, TMC never bothers with such irrelevant questions. Their objective is simple...i'm in opposition, therefore i will oppose.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Certain individuals
by sumit mukherjee on May 09, 2011 10:36 AM
what is the "illegal secret trade" that you refer to? firing by anyone other than the law enforcement agencies is illegal. that holds true for both parties. i can challenge you that you guys will never be able to prove in court that any land acquisition in WB has been illegal. none of the points you mentioned are out of the generalized rhetoric. i know the Left needs to go. it is stupid of bengal voters to elect them for so many terms anyway! but, my question is, how will this change be positive for the state?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Certain individuals
by sujit sengupta on May 07, 2011 12:32 PM
Well..well...if thats the point...let me also say that CPM's stands are not to object to illegal "secret trade"..illegal firing by armed goons..Illegal land acquisation.Their stand is clear...I am in power and no one should object to whatever I do...How much illegal it may be... Even the Komreds cannot come out of that nature.
West Bengal is heading for a disaster if we go by pre-election opinion polls, which suggests a massive victory for Mamta Banerjee. That head-less woman will ruin West Bengal completely.CPIM is a lesser evil when compared to Mamta. She does not have any administrative experience and as a Chief Minister,she will be total flop. Bengalis seems to be thinking little differently.After all, it is their choice.
Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 04, 2011 02:00 PM
there was a time when it was said that what bengal thinks today, the world thinks tomorrow. now, the quotation needs to be modified to says, "what bengal thinks today, the rest of the world has outright rejected at lest a few decades back!"
Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by chandrashekar nayak on May 04, 2011 02:07 PM
Sumit,we in South India always believd that Bengalis are very intelligent and right-thinking people.How come this time around, they are opting for Mamta banerjee ? Do they believe that she can change West bengal for good? She is playing the kind of politics Mr Deve Gowda(yes.the most un-becoming guy once decorated the post of Prime Minister of this Country) is playing in Karnataka. Why bengalis have decided to commit suicide en-masse this time???
Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by Indian on May 04, 2011 03:03 PM
Bengalis have decided that they have had enough of poison to destroy two complete generations in the last 35 years.
So they don't mind committing suicide in search of the change. This change may make or break Bengal but the people want it.
The theory of change may not be so convincing among the elite mass but in the villages, where CPM have kept the people under their control by terror, people are really keen to know if they can have a better life by choosing the alternative. That's the bottomline my dear friend.
The ballots are or will be caste more with the spirit of throwing the ruler than in favour of the alternative.
Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by somnath de on May 05, 2011 12:24 PM
The TMC is handled by Mamata only.The persons in her so called party always fear of expulsion. Nobody has any say against her will. What she does that is final. She run the party on emotions. After her death all will be leader and ultimately the TMC will a history. Moreover she often talk very loose.The people of Bengal dont't want to ruled by a Sardarni of Goonda as she projected herself in an election meeting at Garia.
Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 06, 2011 02:08 PM
Over the last decade or so, most of the intelligent people of Bengal have quietly left the state to settle elsewhere. So, you know what is left behind once intelligence leaves the state.
Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on May 04, 2011 05:36 PM
CPIM is lesser evil..?wow..even the Komraeds will laugh at this statemnt.Has any state caused any statesponsored terrorism like Netai after independence..??no Govt can be a killer Govt like CPIM(not even Mamata)..even she tries hard to be
Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 04, 2011 06:03 PM
actually the murder of sikhs across the country , supported by Congress comes to mind immediately as state sponsored terrorism. It was genocide. And Congress leaders across the country supported it openly and tacitly. Mamata Banerjee was, in fact, in Congress during that time...
Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by Padmanabhan Kumar on May 05, 2011 10:36 AM
what about recent Purulia expose..the congress allowing foreing arms dealer to drop deadly weapons in our territory...now the news has been covered up so fast and it has vanished from news channels...if the opposition can go to that extent what is wrong if i say singur and nandigram are master minded by them....in how many states can we see ruling party workers being forced to flee out of their village...why you blind towards the killing of cpim cadres in bengal...dont project as if the Congress and TMC cadres are Gandhians...
Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on Dec 31, 2012 03:08 PM
Sumit after 2 years of mamata's win...you still think that the dark days of 70's have re appeared..??
Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on May 05, 2011 10:56 AM
Rulinmg party being forced to flee..?/wow...so you admit that ruling party even after having police Dept in their hand,failed to give security to their own party members..?/so what security they can give to common men..??
Just this simple reason this Ruling party must be dethroned.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on May 05, 2011 03:34 PM
Sumit Defy my logic if possible.A bad logic can be countered very easily..but you have no logic to counter it.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 05, 2011 04:11 PM
one doesn't defy logic, sujit. one counters it. by employing your logic, the security forces are unable to protect themselves from maoists, hence they should all either run away or join the maoists. or better still, since the congress govt and its allies are unable to stop the maoist violence and prevent innocents from being killed, they should all resign en masse and leave the country. how logical does that sound to you?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 05, 2011 11:05 AM
That's extremely bad logic and even a TMC supporter can't be that bad!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 06, 2011 03:24 PM
Sujit, The same logic should then be applied to the Govt. at the Centre supported by TMC. They are unable to curb the Maoist menace across the country. They have corrupt members in their ministerial berths. They are unable to rein in their own party workers. Therefore, why don't they quit?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on May 06, 2011 10:49 AM
Sumit My logic never said that the security force should run away.My logic states that if you are failure in maintaining law and order,if you are a failure in stopping terrorism,then you accpet your failure and quit.Let someone else try on it.
Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on May 05, 2011 11:01 AM
Murder of Sikhs was sponsored by Congress..?Wow..sumit..this was not expected from a learned person like you.The attack on sikhs was a spontenious thing which occured after Indira Gandhis killing.
Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 05, 2011 01:04 PM
The Sikh genocide was perpetrated by Congress leaders. It wasn't spontaneous. It was a deliberate and well coordinated attack started by the likes of Tytler. No Congress leader came out and called for peace. You were probably not even born at the time, but i have seen the horror in front of my eyes. It was disturbing and disgusting.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on May 05, 2011 03:33 PM
Sumit I was born and well old enough to understand the real tings.I remeber,the gandhi family(specially rajiv gandhi)..giving speeches on radio(that was main media then apart from Newsprint), to keep peace all over the country.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 05, 2011 04:08 PM
the first speech rajiv gandhi gave was a full 3 days after indira gandhi's murder. so, please, stop highlighting your ignorance and accept the truth. the party you support is fully capable of doing exactly what the left front has done and even worse!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on May 06, 2011 10:32 AM
Sumit Let us acept that rajiv gandhi's speech was aired on radio after 3 days of the incident.Has anyone heard any spech from the CPM leaders admititng that their paid goons killed 9 innocent people?In fact Shyamal Chakrabarty tried get some "Mao" theory behind this netai Incident which later was proved to be alie.(no bullet signs could be seen outside the bulding).So why try and say lie to hide the truth..?? and who is capable of doing what CPM has done..?/primarily you have admiited that CPM did a crime in netai(you never condemned it)...and now you are saying others are capable of doing crime...trying ti justify CPM's crime.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 06, 2011 11:29 AM
Sujit, Somehow get this into your thick skull. I am against both the political parties in this election. I know you are a TMC supporter and a completely blind one at that, but there is really a limit to being obnoxious. (yes, go check the dictionary). I am stating that both the parties are equally bad for the people of Bengal. If you don't have the mental capacity to comprehend this thought, i suggest that you refrain from adding your two bit inanities into this conversation. (now you really need a dictionary) :D
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sujit sengupta on May 07, 2011 12:35 PM
You are against both politial partie..?/wow..this is news to all the people posting in this forum.If you had ben against CPM also...why didn;t you ever condemnd the barbaric act of CPM in Netai where armed goons took away 9 Innocent lives..??when you say you are against both the parties and you speak for the common people of the state.. why the deaths of Innocents never move you a bit...?? Musking yourself will do no good.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CPIM IS LESSER EVIL THAN MAMTA
by sumit mukherjee on May 09, 2011 10:47 AM
good lord, sujit! does your brain not process any information at all? or is english too tough for you? do you want me to communicate in bengali to you? maybe then you will understand. but, somehow, i'm certain it will not still not help matters. however, for your benefit, let me use the kind of language that even you can understand: i am against both the parties. i am against use of violence. any person who uses violence should and must be punished by the law. be it nandigram or singur or junglemahal. violence done by both parties needs to be condemned (sorry, i know this is a tough word for you, but it means i am protesting against it). let me also state that i despise mamata banerjee for having destroyed WB's last hope for industrialization. she is the scum of the earth and should not be allowed within an arm's length of the CM's chair. unfortuntely, the ppl of WB are voting against the Left and, due to lack of choice, voting her to power. i shudder to think of what havoc will reign within the next few years. the dark days of the 70's is set to return.
I do not understand why these non-bengalis are so curious about Bengal. Bengal is not such a backward state in India like Bihar, UP, Rajasthan, Assam, Orissa, etc.etc. No state is developed in India. Only thing is that some state is having few more rich people and some more investors are investing and some new industries are coming up. You might have heard about CPM only recently barking against CPM.
Re: bengal
by sumit mukherjee on May 04, 2011 01:57 PM
Bihar, UP, Rajasthan, Assam & Orissa have more development than WB. They have industry or agriculture or both. What does WB have except CPM & TMC?
Re: Re: bengal
by sujit sengupta on May 06, 2011 10:54 AM
WB has got rich minerals,it has got tremendous tourism potential,sea,Jungle,Hills,MOuntains,Historicals monements but the worthless Govt never tried to publicixze this.It has got geographical advantage of being located near countires like Nepal,Bhutan,Burma,Bangladesh but never ever the worthless Govt tried to make it a cargo hub.WB has got a very fertile soil but we are far far behind on agricultural field.We need to dethrone this worthless Govt to maximise the potential of WB.
Re: Re: Re: bengal
by sumit mukherjee on May 06, 2011 12:44 PM
At the current moment, my comments stand true. Bihar has more minerals than the rest of Eastern India put together. It also has many tourist spots, including hills, mountains, religious and historical monuments. Bihar also happens to have a genuine, honest and very capable CM, which Bengal does not and will not have even after this election. They possess most of the same geographical advantages as you have mentioned. UP has one of the higest agricultural production in the country as well as large no. of industries. Rajasthan has more tourism than Bengal anyday, along with mining. Assam has gas & oil and minerals. Currently, Bengal lags in all these aspects.
Re: Mamata didi ..... Mayawati.....Sonia
by Faltu Chinta on May 04, 2011 01:16 PM
Spectrum Raja is going to get Doctorate from Anna University for his valuable contribution.
Re: Mamata didi ..... Mayawati.....Sonia
by Faltu Chinta on May 04, 2011 01:18 PM
pRINCESS OF WHICH COUNTRY. I HEARD THAT SHE IS NOT EVEN COMPLETED HER METRICULATON.
why fight who will win. Results wiil be out soon. wheteher its CPM or TMC the difference is " T ". TIME will tell. Do not break your own back. CPM has had many laurels in improving rural bengal. They ahve provided land to the tiller which till date is not available in majority of India. they have failed in industrialisation front. Congress at centre is busy with selling GOVT companies to PVT and also closing down GOVT companies. We Indians are in for heavy inflation and rise in interest rate to CRUB inflation. RICH getting richer and poor getting poorer. WB is is a part of this country. CPM or TMC cannot turn it around...BEST of LUCK BENGAL....
If CPM wins then all the good people will have to leave WB as there will be only Gundaraaj and complete anarchy.
Killers like Majid Master will become ministers, uncultured brutes like Anil Basu will be heading some important institution like Presidency college and confused devil Gautam Deb will become the Chief Minister. Where will be the space for good people then?
Re: Re: if win
by sauvik basu on May 05, 2011 12:28 PM
People of Bengal forgotten the 1970? If yes never give a vote to the left, If no, Let the common people come to power through the hands of the left. And people who believes in goondaraj please read the reports of the son of Mukul Roy, the Union Minister
Re: Re: if win
by Ranaji Sen on May 04, 2011 05:40 PM
TMC is a party, consists of Mafia, & goonda, do you , what is called intellectuals, most of the intellectuals are left minded for your informations, such as, Sunil gangopadhayay, Mrinal sen, Soumitra chatterjee, & many more.90% people in the Left front have got a culture & education, i think, which is beyond your knowledge, it is not a indiscipline party like TMC
Re: Re: if win
by drifts on May 04, 2011 12:23 PM
You are 100% correct man. They should be erased from the history of west bengal not to save only west bengal but to save the India. All CPIM are liar and Gundaraj. People should kick their back
Re: Re: if win
by Ranaji Sen on May 04, 2011 05:41 PM
TMC is a party, consists of Mafia, & goonda, do you , what is called intellectuals, most of the intellectuals are left minded for your informations, such as, Sunil gangopadhayay, Mrinal sen, Soumitra chatterjee, & many more.90% people in the Left front have got a culture & education, i think, which is beyond your knowledge, it is not a indiscipline party like TMC
Re: Re: Re: if win
by sujit sengupta on May 06, 2011 10:58 AM
TMC is aprty of Mafia and Goondas..?wow..so Tapan Sukur belongs to TMC..?Majid Master belongs to TMC..??Tarakeswar Lohar belongs to TMC..??Anuj Pandey belongs to TMC...?? and you speak about intellectuals..?/have you heard of Shankhya Ghos..??hsuchuitra ..?(writer),Joy Goswami..??Samir Aich...??Bratya Basu..?/Aparna Sen..??Kaushik Ganguly...??Please have atleast the minimum knowldge before speaking about Intelectuals...
The sound of loosers music can be heard in Biman Bose's statement.He canot openly say that TMc will win by a huge margin just because there are two more phases of election left and now if they admit that they are loosing heavily then the caders might be demotivated.Thats the reson he has to say.."CPM will win but small margin"....by saying this he has actually admitted defeat. The huge turnout of voters have made this clear that CPM will be washed of this time from bengal and the state will witness the second independence.
Re: Sound of Music
by sumit mukherjee on May 04, 2011 11:40 AM
the state of west bengal is in independent India. there is no such thing as second independence. it's like saying "true fact" or"revert back". both of those phrases don't make any sense. if it is a fact, it's true. and if you revert to someone, you get back to that person.
Re: Re: Sound of Music
by sujit sengupta on May 04, 2011 05:41 PM
Though INdia has been independent in 1947,West bengal was never independent under this worthless comi rule.The commonm men never had the right to vote.Poor people were killed by state sponsored goons like in Nandigram and Netai.No state Govt can have armed caders serving their party as it did in West bengal.So however you may deny,people of West bengal has got the taste of second independence.
Re: Re: Re: Sound of Music
by sumit mukherjee on May 04, 2011 05:58 PM
Sujit, WB has been part of independent India since 1947. If the left was ruling for 35 years and the state was not independent, even today there would be no opposition. But, i'm sure you will not be able to comprehend this logic either.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Sound of Music
by sujit sengupta on May 06, 2011 11:01 AM
Was there really any opposition in WB..??whenever,Oppositions tried to speak,poeple like Nirupom sen made killings in saibari..IN howrah..hands were cut off for voting for congress.The brutality of CPM has been witnessed by common men and so the real logic of independence has been witnessed by the common men only.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Sound of Music
by sumit mukherjee on May 06, 2011 12:46 PM
How is this in anyway related to the ridiculous comment about second independence?
