I had been working in Japan for the past 8 years. As Parmesh says, the Indian IT engineers were the first to pack their bags and flee from Japan. They had been drawing fat salaries from various Japanese firms and sending off all the money to India. They just ran off without even waiting to see what is happening. Now, in the comfort of their homes they are giving interviews to newspapers! Yes, we understand that people have the right to ensure their own safety. But, please don't come back to Japan again. Stay put in India. DON"T EVER COME BACK TO JAPAN JUST FOR MONEY.
Re: Shame on Indians!
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 09:04 AM
Eswar is staying in Japan not for the money but for the love of sushi and sazimi! That has earned him the right to speak for Japanese and tell other people what to do and what not to do.
Hello champ, what about Japan issuing travel advisories not to visit India when Mumbai attacks happpened?
Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by R Balasubramanian on Mar 22, 2011 05:46 PM
that shows the concern of the government on their people. Indians are street dogs so government does not bother about their security and life in other countries. Just see whats happening in Australia and US where students are harassed, shot dead and radio collared yet the government is very cordial in their approach for the safety of our people. Dont compare. I have worked with Japanese in India, for five years and fully know their culture and humanity. I too know how indians in my company cheated and looted the company since the Executives were deputed from Japan to man the show. I am ashamed to say that a school final was a Dy. Manager, Sales Coordination and graduate engineers worked under him taking his advice?
Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by Eswar Eswar on Mar 22, 2011 09:14 AM
Of course, I am staying here not just for money. That is the reason that I didn't flee. I can understand people running away from affected places. But, this is not like that.
Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 09:19 AM
Yeah, I believe! Admit it, man, the primary reason you stay there is MONEY, not the love for Japan. Secondly, your staying there or not isn't going to help Japan in any way. 22,000 people reported dead and International Agencies rate the Fukushima reactor levels one level below Chernobyl. And you think it is over reaction that people run away? Japan advised against travelling to India after 26/11. Was that over reaction?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by Eswar Eswar on Mar 22, 2011 09:31 AM
Of course, every country has the right to assure the safety of its own citizens. But, that is not what I am telling. People from totally unaffected regions have run away and created panic. This has created a bad feeling towards the foreigners who have left Japan. About 35 million Japanese are living in the Kanto region. They didn't run away like these people. What I am telling is this: DON'T COME BACK TO JAPAN!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 10:49 AM
Kyodo news agency reported that about 20 Japanese people in Libya were set to leave the country on Tuesday on charter flights. About 50-60 Japanese are still in the country
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by abhay bisen on Mar 22, 2011 12:40 PM
dear some reports said that some part of Russia is also under radiation effect , now for common people radiation is radiation and they do not know the intensity level of that radiation and it is good if they left that place as soon as possible , i tell you nothing can fight against radiations so your stay can not change anything but will probably make another victim of radiation , and I again repeat u r not the authority of Japan to dictate such things , if Japanese government wants’ anybody not to come back then they will pass a resolution , even on net it is not clear whether u r in Japan or not or whether u r a Indian or not but one thing is clear that u are overreacting and have some problem in your head .
Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by Eswar Eswar on Mar 22, 2011 09:34 AM
FYI, many of the Japanese companies are thinking of terminating the services of those who have left. I hope you will admit that they have the right to do so. I was given a choice to take a vacation. But, didn't do so. When the workers at Fukushima are putting their lives at risk, we should show at least some solidarity!
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 10:50 AM
What solidarity did Japanese show when the Japanese govt advised its people not to be in India after 26/11?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by mohammed ulhaq on Mar 22, 2011 10:54 AM
Appreciate your patriotism for a foreign country, could you pls explain in similar lines what have you done for your own mother land. All crap, money has made you not to leave that place and you are not more than a Condom for Japanese (use and throw). It is not wise to take a risk of your life just for the sake of Money. I wish if any Son could think about his own mother with same patriotism, you are a filthy junk B**d. Pls pardon my language.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by Kumar Munipalli on Mar 22, 2011 11:39 AM
Many Japanese from the Miyagi area have also left to the southern parts to stay with their parents etc. Would we call them also as not showing solidarity? Whenever some natural calamity or even a man-made calamity like 26/11 happens, foreigners leave as their stay creates more issues for the local authorities as they have to periodically update their embassies etc. Are Japanese not leaving Gulf countries after the recent flareups in Egypt etc.?
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by Rahul Ekbote on Mar 22, 2011 12:24 PM
yes,really brave,if tomorrow any nuclear aaccident happens in india or japan and these people if employees ,then sure they will run first with their legs to their back,and leave other people art risk of nuclear meltdown ,radiation,japanes govt. try to fix radiation problenm then leave the place,lethergic attitude of fat salary earning indians,they remember mother india ,whwn opnly in danger,otherwisw keep cursing india as a shit,actually real indians shud not allow such NRI,crap forign indians and never give them any job in future,in india,runners,bhagode kahi key.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Shame on Indians!
by abc def on Mar 22, 2011 11:01 AM
Hi Eswar, First of all let me congratulate you that you stayed there and showed the courage. Coming to the topic about fatty salary well no body leaves there native country/place unless and untill there is oppturnity. The same is with you also. You would not have left india unless and untill you got a good oppturnity there is Japan. Its Human nature and nothing wrong in that. So complaining about people drawing good salary and leaving the country because of the problem is wrong. When you tell that Japanes people did not run away any where well thats there Country and they dont have option but to stay there only. Japanese are used to those kind of problems so it does not affect more to them but for any forgein country citizen its a big thing because they have not faced such thing frequently so running away for there saftey to there country is understandable. And regarding terminating there Job by the Japanese companies its not going to create any problem for them. It was the Japanese company who based on there skills have given them the Job and if they can get Job in Japan they can get a Job any where else in the world. When you say about Solidarity it does not mean that to show the Solidarity you should endanger your life. You never know what will happen in future so every body makes themselv safer thinking future can be worst and the one who does not do that is a big fool.
Re: Shame on Indians!
by Mohan rao dustakar on Mar 22, 2011 01:09 PM
You BBB Bharath se Bhage Huye Bharatheeya, let an individual indian take his decission. It is his decission personal decission depending on his mental condition at that time. You are not the person to decide what every body has to do. Every body need not follow and do the same way you think. If Japanese are able to diversify and put plants in china and other countries for reducing their labour cost and earn, what is wrong an indian earning money. After all he is receiving the money for his capacity and hard work which he has done. Not that he is receving any charity. You only mentioned in your column that you call home first to see whether they are safe and communicate to them that you are safe. Then you run to get groceries, which is already empty. This is their life. You do not have any right to say that they should not come to japan. They need indians that is why they allowed.
Re: Shame on Indians!
by srungar on Mar 22, 2011 12:53 PM
Hello eswar!, r u married, do yu have children. I dont think so. u r a bachelor without any resposibilities. So You can stay over there. we flee because of our children sake not for ur dumazz reasons. no body wants their kids to be effected. we know how the life and people in japan. we love the country than anything in the world. And we love the people too. we know hw ppl helping each other during this crisis.
Re: Shame on Indians!
by venkat on Mar 22, 2011 06:36 PM
Why pick on Indians only. Many other foreigners left too. The japanese have their family, their society all in Japan. What do the Indians have?
Re: Shame on Indians!
by Mohan rao dustakar on Mar 22, 2011 01:10 PM
You BBB Bharath se Bhage Huye Bharatheeya, let an individual indian take his decission. It is his decission personal decission depending on his mental condition at that time. You are not the person to decide what every body has to do. Every body need not follow and do the same way you think. If Japanese are able to diversify and put plants in china and other countries for reducing their labour cost and earn, what is wrong an indian earning money. After all he is receiving the money for his capacity and hard work which he has done. Not that he is receving any charity. You only mentioned in your column that you call home first to see whether they are safe and communicate to them that you are safe. Then you run to get groceries, which is already empty. This is their life. You do not have any right to say that they should not come to japan. They need indians that is why they allowed.
Re: Shame on Indians!
by Mohan rao dustakar on Mar 22, 2011 01:28 PM
You are staying for 40 years, you have all your family settled in Japan. You do not have any country where your relatives want you, that is the reason you are still staying in Japan. If the same catastrophy had happened just after 3 years of your stay in Japan, you would have been the first trying to catch a flight back to India. Now regarding earning fat money, why did you leave india and go to japan, is it for family reunion or to earn money. If it is family reunion then, you ran 40 years before. If for earning money, then you ran from india for fat money. You say you are educated, then you should have done something for your motherland by staying. You BBB Bharatse Bhage Huye Bharateeya mind your own business. Do not take indian's patience as our incapability. We respect all 1. Guests ( Athithi Devo Bhava), 2. All the people who have left india for their karma 3. People who are living in India and last but not the least 4 our people and living creatures and non living creatures.
LIVE YOUR LIFE DONT COME IN SOMEBODY'S LIFE AND CAST YOUR BAD EYES ON SOMEBODY'S EARNINGS.
Re: Shame on Indians!
by Subhash Deshmukh on Mar 22, 2011 12:05 PM
I appreciate the analysis of abc def- Japanese have not left because it is their own country and where will they go - whereas others have option to go their own country and ensure safety of their lives. What is wrong in it? The very fact that Parmesh Bhatt is a brother of Mahesh Bhatt speaks a lot. Perhaps they take pleasure in raising the controversies and always blaming the majority people what ever may be the issue involved.
Re: Shame on Indians!
by Mohan rao dustakar on Mar 22, 2011 01:08 PM
You BBB Bharath se Bhage Huye Bharatheeya, let an individual indian take his decission. It is his decission personal decission depending on his mental condition at that time. You are not the person to decide what every body has to do. Every body need not follow and do the same way you think. If Japanese are able to diversify and put plants in china and other countries for reducing their labour cost and earn, what is wrong an indian earning money. After all he is receiving the money for his capacity and hard work which he has done. Not that he is receving any charity. You only mentioned in your column that you call home first to see whether they are safe and communicate to them that you are safe. Then you run to get groceries, which is already empty. This is their life. You do not have any right to say that they should not come to japan. They need indians that is why they allowed.
Re: Shame on Indians!
by abhay bisen on Mar 22, 2011 12:28 PM
please do not talk senseless things , the disaster was natural and not made by Indians or any other country , everyone has the right to save his life and it will be there soul decision to stay there or leave , please do not dictate that one should not come back or go out , let this decision on Japanese government , also one thing Japanese did not had any other place to move that is one reason why they are not leaving quickly and there are many factors related to it , but that do not mean the person who have their relatives or home elsewhere should not leave , company contracts are business and both parties get benefited by that so do not argue on thick amount of money .
Re: Shame on Indians!
by Zeng on Mar 22, 2011 01:34 PM
Eswar, you are being unrealistic. There is a lot of difference between what citizens of a country will do and what foreigners will do, during emergencies like this. It happens in every part of the world. Indians in Kuwait, now Libya etc are evacuated when the citizens of the same countries didn't move. Same applies to foreigners in India - whites, japanese and everybody else. The moment they hear about a terrorists attck, they cancel the flights, run back home.
Yes, Indians in japan are only there for money and their employers need them only for work. After all, Japanese govt is not going to take care of their families if they die there. Definitely they wont treat Indians there the same way they look after a Japanese.
This is the fact and this is the way expatriates behave, in any part of the world. Also stop acting like nothing happened - if radiation level increases, there is nothing that you can do about it. Also, the japanese model of newclear energy and the way they make reactors have proven to be failures. Time to introspect and time to correct your mistakes. Not blaming anyone won;t solve your problems for ever.
Why is he complaining that Indians left Japan. In fact people like Parmesh Bhatt are a nuisance during disaster. Such people are in denial and refuse to leave when Govt. declares emergency. Then when condition gets worse it is an expensive nightmare for rescue workers to rescue these idiots. Think about this if more people get impacted by radiation by refusing to stay away from harms way, it is a big stress on health care system later on.
I don't get this.
Elder brother Mahesh called everyone to go to Iraq to form a human chain to defend that tyrannical Saddam when NATO force were bombarding.
Now Younger brother Parmesh wants Indians to stay back when there is a radiation risk. Already Japan has asked everyone to stay indoors as far as Tokyo or far off for safety.
Re: Looks like these Bhatt brother's have a NUT loose.
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 08:03 AM
He is afraid that people will think he is just another 'Indian'! What he doesn't understand is, no matter what others do or don't do, people's perception about him won't change, he will still be an 'Indian', no matter how good his Japanese skills are. Learn to live with that Bhatt!
Re: alibaba-Re: nuclear deal that india got into was done in un-d
by D S on Mar 22, 2011 04:03 AM
written above in your response to -
nuclear deal that india got into was done in un-democratic way
The way nuclear deal was DONE IS UN-DEMOCRATIC (votes for cash), do not go NUCLEAR. India should go solar and not buy third rated solar technology. Use solar powered hydrogen production method. I have written why this Wiki exposure his happening. PROBLEM is SONIA is getting very anxious, she complained during the visit to London, FEAR OF LOSING CONTROL over slaves within party and outside. She says, kickback money is not a problem, it is plenty.
So such news will arrive because the boat has to be rocked, it will shake some top kingpin political leaders and brokers of bjp-congress hidden nexxus to OBEY more promptly to dynasty and mafia needs. You will know their names soon. Desh as usual will suffer because we are not getting rid of congress and fake opposition BJP.
Re: alibaba-Re: nuclear deal that india got into was done in un-d
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 08:05 AM
By the same token, we heard the same thing from Conservatives when Televisions came to India. Heard the same thing when mobile phones came.... So chill.
He has higlighted lot of things which we can learn from.
Earthquake proof structures : The buildings have withstood this massive earthquake and only 5 people lost their lives in the city where millions live. Isnt that amazing. We should try to adopt some of these technologies to make the structures we build earthquake proof to a considerable extent (till 9.0 scale like in tokyo)
People did not panic : This is a thing to learn from and this is the attitude we need to include while dealing with disasters
Use of technology to keep people informed : Like he mentions people are being informed on a frequent basis of the current situation supported with figures and stats using latest technologies.
Re: Lets pick the good part
by subbareddiar venkataramanan on Mar 22, 2011 04:30 PM
Well said Jay! But only thing is Bhatt should've restricted to it and not comment on ppl who leave. It's purely personal. What he says sounds like "When Tsunami comes don't runaway but face the sea"
Re: Lets pick the good part
by Ajit Birdi on Mar 21, 2011 11:57 PM
We Indians do not believe in such technology nor we are interested in developing it. We don't even get planing permission from the council or expert advice before building or altering building structure. WE KNOW EVERYTHING AND BETTER THEN REST OF THE WORLD EVERY CITIZEN IS AN EXPERT IN ALL FIELDS UNDER THE SUN. WE DO NOT NEED TO ASK JAPANESE OR ANY ONE ELSE. WE KNOW ALL.
Re: Re: Lets pick the good part
by Alibaba on Mar 22, 2011 12:55 AM
Yes, you are right but then you don't know about Indians living in Japan. there are 1000 families alone in seshincho which is know as little India at outskirts of Tokyo and I am not counting the one in near by suburbs or remaining tokyo. So 300 is a very little number. Yes, some of them had sent family back as it is difficult to manage with small kids but more or less, most of them stayed back.
But as you said in your own words YOU KNOW EVERYTHING :0
Re: Lets pick the good part
by mohammed ulhaq on Mar 22, 2011 10:58 AM
One basinc understanding is missing out here. If the buildings were earth quack resistance then why were the Nuclear reactors not earth quack proof. What happen to their damn technology ??? We Indians are fools in our nation and even in foreign land (proof is above article) we always run for Money and fail to understand that these technology is to safeguard our lives.
Re: Information
by Alibaba on Mar 22, 2011 12:58 AM
max, you should know how system works before commenting on "email information" the email information is sent from govt agencies which are keeping an eye over situation and that can be verified by individuals who are having those devices themselves. You can buy one too.
Re: Re: Information
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 07:50 AM
The same govt agencies that had informed the public that the nuke reactors were perfectly safe? I'm glad to know someone who believes all the things government agencies say!
Goddamn bu11sh1t!! Comparing radiation with Mumbai? Leaving own motherland and living on some foreigner's mercy by washing their to1lets is nothing great.. Come back to India, rather than badmouth Mumbai sitting there you holy son of an a$$
Re: What the f**k is he saying about Mumbai
by Ajit Birdi on Mar 21, 2011 11:53 PM
@Aditya it seems that you have lived in mumbai all your life so far. But what you don't know is that Mumbai is built on reclaimed land of 5 islands and is just about at the sealevel a a 30foot wave will wage lot of damage to mumbai there is nothing on mumbai coast line to defend it. Otherwise yes mumbai is a beautiful place.
Re: What the f**k is he saying about Mumbai
by Alibaba on Mar 22, 2011 01:03 AM
have you ever heard of frog story? I think u didn't. Please don't take this personally but I should ask. Since how many generations you are living in Mumbai 2-3-4? And before that, some one from your family "Migrated" to Mumbai for better future. Now what if some one moved to other country? Spend a year in Japan and then your language too will change and you don't need to use characters like ** or && or $$ to conceal the words. :) cheer up. He is not saying bad about Mumbai and I believe situation is worse in Delhi.
Re: Re: What the f**k is he saying about Mumbai
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 07:55 AM
I hope they give you honorary citizenship, the Japanese. What are you trying to say Mr Baba? That moving from one country to another country is same as moving in one's own country? You may try to mask your complex with such gems, but deep in your heart you also know, you are neither there, nor here. And that will be the fate of your family line too. But yes, perhaps after this display of loyalty, some Japanese girls might think Indians are not as dirty as they thought to be...
Re: What the f**k is he saying about Mumbai
by Bindas One on Mar 22, 2011 08:40 AM
I think some peoples need to think before they speak. Why dont you check, which clas ur in?
The writer does has thing for Indian bashing. HE is upset that the Indian left Japan for their homes. It is but natural. If he is didnt do it then he is a fool. Everyone has his own right to do the right thing. He should not show his braveness on cost of others.
Re: Why Indian Bashing
by Aditya on Mar 21, 2011 11:41 PM
The writer's smug smile on his face wont be long as Japan will deport such a$$licking id1ots back to their motherlands soon..
Re: Re: Why Indian Bashing
by Alibaba on Mar 22, 2011 01:13 AM
see.. I suggest you should check your own comments 2 hour after you make it. Then you realise why people leave India. ok, I didn't want to start it but.. It's a bit long back ago when one of "your" great leader started a revolution against south Indians in Mumbai(maharashtra). He actually destroyed a lot more businesses. After that some one was required to work as labourer in Mumbai, then started inflow of north/East Indians. the so called Bhaiya's. So not so long ago the same great leader started a movement to throw out these guys out of Mumbai/Maharashtra. So basically, there is mentality of "deport such a$$licking id1ots back to their motherlands soon." at your place. Am I wrong?
but it is not so. Writer was disappointed because Media made it happen. Most of my friends family returned home due to pressure of families in India even though situation was normal in Tokyo. Some of them took it as opportunity to celebrate Holi at home.
fyi - I myself is an Indian living in India but I had spent a good chunk of my Life in Japan. You can keep abusing as you did till now in your comments. But one thing of the good thing I learnt there is not to use abusive language. Sorry I forgot my own countries culture here and preferred to be bit Japanese..
Re: Re: Re: Why Indian Bashing
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 08:00 AM
All that pales in comparison with Japanese and their TWO world wars, not to mention the support for Nazi imperialism. Doesn't it? Now now, yes, we don't equate Japan with all that. Similarly, you would do well not to equate Thackarey to India.
People leave their country for many reasons. In India, the reason is only one - MONEY.
To me, this Bhatt comes across as a cheap insecure person, afraid of his identity. Confidence comes from being comfortable in one's own skin.
The way nuclear deal was DONE IS UN-DEMOCRATIC (votes for cash), do not go NUCLEAR. India should go solar and not buy third rated solar technology. Use solar powered hydrogen production method. I have written why this Wiki exposure his happening. PROBLEM is SONIA is getting very anxious, she complained during the visit to London, FEAR OF LOSING CONTROL over slaves within party and outside. She says, kickback money is not a problem, it is plenty.
So such news will arrive because the boat has to be rocked, it will shake some top kingpin political leaders and brokers of bjp-congress hidden nexxus to OBEY more promptly to dynasty and mafia needs. You will know their names soon. Desh as usual will suffer because we are not getting rid of congress and fake opposition BJP.
Re: nuclear deal that india got into was done in un-democratic wa
by some one on Mar 21, 2011 11:12 PM
Nuclear energy is necessary and less harmful than other ways of getting energy.
Re: Re: Re: nuclear deal that india got into was done in un-democ
by Alibaba on Mar 22, 2011 01:18 AM
This is what people who understand the technology says. Problem is not in Nuclear energy but how and which type of plant is created and used. Just follow CNN articles about the Japanese plant currently in crises. You will come to know why the crisis is and why there is no possibility of next cheronible with them. If there was no Tsunami or failure of Tsunami barriers, the situation would not happened in first place.
Re: Re: Re: Re: nuclear deal that india got into was done in un-d
by D S on Mar 22, 2011 04:01 AM
heard the same arguments when UC arrived in bhopal. nothing new you say.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: nuclear deal that india got into was done in
by giveanid on Mar 22, 2011 08:01 AM
You heard about tsunami in Bhopal? I think you are listening to Yiddish radio. Change change!
