Democracy is all about a constitutionally elected government along with appropriate pressure from informed civil society groups - both co existing with mutual respect.
In the absence of an informed public, democracy and dictatorship are alike - both become tyrannical.
Civil groups must also realise that their movement has only to be to nudge the government to enact what ordinary people feel acutely. But if civil groups erroneously feel emboldened to interpret the groundswell of support as a raison d'etre to dislodge a government, then any nation would move towards anarchy.
I dont think the people of India want that to happen. A corrupt but constitutionally elected government in that case would be the choice of the people as against anarchy.
It is therefore important for the government and civil groups to co exist peacefully with mutual respect.
The shortfall of democracy and the election process is that once in 5 years we have the option to just say YES in favour of one or the other political party. The process does not allow ordinary citizens to communicate with the government on varying issues which they want corrected from time to time. If this is the shortfall of democracy then civil groups must exist, but the country in turn cannot be run by civil groups. If they feel confident of the peoples support they should either come to power thru the constitutional process or understand the limitations of what civil pressure means.
I am shocked to hear the demands by Anna Hazare and Co. for Lokpal bill. Do they want a dictatorship in India? With so much power who will control the Lokpal committe? Do they want us to go Pakistan way? Killers of democracy desguised as Gandhi wadis. Devils Indians please wake up. They show fear of corruption while taking our democracy? Devils.
Can you suggest same action against Kashmiri stone pelters? Or can you ask gov to take action against Syed Sah Ali Gilani? Keep barking your congressi dogs, people will teach you lesson in next election
Re: Navneet Anand Same Action in Kashmir
by IMTIAZ KHAN on Jun 07, 2011 07:37 PM
Sam : I dont agree with your post. Even if an election was held today, the result would be virtually the same as in 2009.
You are talking of Kashmir which is a disturbed state.
Please read what had happened when Punjab was going thru the same phase. You may probably realise what was happening in Punjab was several times more dreadful than what is happening in Kashmir.
Please also remember the current spate of violence in Kashmir is of our own doing. In the late 80's elections were rigged and most terrorist leaders now in Pakistan were standing for elections and they were made to loose.
Such actions will always have a reaction, what we see in Kashmir is a reaction. But can we allow that reaction to continue and anti national elements to serve their parochial designs : The answer is NO. But if we have done a wrong, then we alone have to correct it.
Re: Re: Navneet Anand Same Action in Kashmir
by Dipak Bose on Jun 08, 2011 06:11 AM
Come on man. both Benazir Bhutto and Zia-Ul-Haque said that after they have finished their job in Afghanistan to kill the Afghan socialists the Muzzahadins would go to Kashmir to take it by the 'Sword of Islam'; it was propagated a lot in Britain, where I was during the late 1980s. You think that just because there was a rigging in election, Muslims of Kashmir started killing Hindus and raping and abducting Hindu women. What kind of inhuman or subhuman people are you the Muslims of Kashmir.
Re: Re: Re: Navneet Anand Same Action in Kashmir
by IMTIAZ KHAN on Jun 08, 2011 11:14 AM
Well if you talk of Pakistan then the Punjab insurgency was also Pakistan funded and aided. The leaders of that movement got funds and arms from the neighbouring country. That therefore is not an argument.
If your Govt would have taken this decisive action against terrorists, Dawood, afzal guru Or A raja, kalmadi, and now MARAM as an indian i can apprciate. for you police action during mid night on ladies and children was decisive then better go to NIMHANS along with your foolish ministers who needs medical assistance
Re: Stop this nonsense Mr. Cong (I )Anand
by viswanatha seshadri on Jun 07, 2011 07:46 PM
for crypto-chr fanatics like this anand, new delhi should soon be renamed the 'new vatican' in india. they would like to expel all hindus from there in due course. they certainly cant tolerate and swamis or babas holding any meetings there.
The author is very much to the point.. Agreed there is a rot in overall political system but the way vested interests are making misuse of this rot to further their selfish goals by taking democracy as hostage is wrong. It will throw the country to chaos in future. Today good people are using civil society route to bend political system to knees. Tomorrow definitely rogues will use the same route. See, I like Anna Hazare's movement but this Baba is very political. He even tried to hijack Anna's movement. But even though I backed Anna movement still we have to be careful in backing all such movements blindly .
Re: Is this blogger a member of Congress paid to write this arti
by VijaySagar on Jun 07, 2011 06:49 PM
sometimes its good to hear the other side of the story. just becoz u think what ur baba is doing is right, does not make it right..so please learn to be tolerant of others views and opinions, as this is a democracy, much as u dont like it this way.
Re: Re: Is this blogger a member of Congress paid to write this
by Gururaj S on Jun 07, 2011 07:28 PM
Wow! I wonder how tolerant Digvijay Singh is!!
Just because we are a democracy, and we got to be tolerant, should they hog the space, time and divert issue, which has become the order of the day? How can be allowed to take the focus away from the burning national issues? When Parliamentarians, politicians are NOT doing their job, the civil society members got into the act. They actually went to ALL these parties to plead with them to take up Jan Lokpal bill. No one gave them any attention. Only when they went on fast, the politicians listened because of the popular support team Anna got. Same is the case with Baba Ramdev. He has been speaking of this issue for over 9 months now, in various towns, villages, state capitals. What action did the government propse to take to address that issue which is of grave importance to the nation? None.
Pranab Mukherjee is sitting on a list of black money depositors, given by the German authorities. What is the problem in declaring those names? What national interest is being served by keeping those names secret? These are serious questions that Congress should answer, instead of diverting the issue.
Unlike Kapil Sibbal who is a Psychopath in Politics and also goes for Murder of oponents, Baba is non violent so no harm in telling a lod of lies for Congress Favours. Roti is from Congress.
