I am offering Rs1 lakh to any person who can prove Maria is guilty of murdering Grover. Here are some suggestions how people can win this sum: You can prove that you were present in Maria's flat at the time and witnessed the entire sequence of event You can claim you had bugged the place and have recorded the conversation and arguments the three persons had at the time and produce the recording You can claim you had installed a camera at Maria's place and captured everything that happened and produce the clips You can claim you have better knowledge of law, legal process etc than the honourable judge and can speak with greater authority on the details of the case as have come to light in the last three years the case has been going If you cannot satisfy any of the above requirements then please lay off. That is the best thing you can do to help all three get justice.
If the supporters of neeraj don't want Judgment but a justice, then they should tell whether it is justified in coveting another man's woman? Is anger of jerome justified?
Re: Re: Re: Judgement & Justice
by akpin on Jul 06, 2011 10:04 AM
I respect your opinion. But I think you are diverting the issue little bit. I wish i write more.. but time to sleep. some other time..take it easy..
Re: Judgement & Justice
by JR on Jul 06, 2011 08:56 AM
Is Jerome married to Maria Is Jerome engaged to Maria Is Neeraj forced Maria to have physical relationship Who Cheated on whom? Maria or Neeraj?
Re: Re: Re: Judgement & Justice
by Bhanu Prakash on Jul 06, 2011 09:27 AM
if jerome is engaged with Maria it has no legal meaning. NOthing has value till the marriage. YOur othe queation is stupid. Yes Neeraj has a right about his wife and she has a right about her husband. Man distingush clearly between engagemnet and marriage. even at the last moment before the m arriaged she can change her mind and select another. This is very well true in your rel. Ask your religous heads in this regrd.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Judgement & Justice
by charlie brown on Jul 06, 2011 09:38 AM
bhanu praksh, do u know that in india the breaking of an engagement earns will earn him imprisonment? fyi It is a law
the sex for man is more easy than a woman. so tomorrow, will u accept that a man impregnates a woman and marries someone else saying it is his personal choice that she was not sexually favouring him?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Judgement & Justice
by charlie brown on Jul 06, 2011 09:46 AM
how do u say that it is not known to neeraj when the evidence says that neeraj is known to maria/jerome for 8 years?
Re: Judgement & Justice
by Bhanu Prakash on Jul 06, 2011 09:22 AM
till she is married she can be the woman of any one as per her choice and the man's choice. Jerome's anger is not justified because she is not his wife or any relative. Even her husband ( if she had married) has no right to murder any one, even if she has sexual relationship with other. He can divorce her.
Re: Re: Judgement & Justice
by charlie brown on Jul 06, 2011 09:31 AM
Bhanu prakash, there are better defences in this case. But ur defence will only promote free sex in the society. which means f*ck and forget. can u allow that to happen?
Re: Re: Re: Judgement & Justice
by Thomas Almeida on Jul 06, 2011 10:07 AM
Bhanu ! In that case can you spare ur Girls to othere as & when they need ???
Re: Re: Judgement & Justice
by charlie brown on Jul 06, 2011 09:30 AM
In any case no one has the right to murder. But,
will u say the same thing when a woman kills a man during the course of a rape? Or will u say that she has to undergo the rape and after she can approach the court of law for justice?
Will u allow pakistan to plunder India? or will u wait and watch and after approach the international court of Justice? Every human/nation has got some emotions to react when a damage is done in front of his eyes.
After engagement the woman becomes half wife of the man.
Where were u when the judgements awarded maintenance for woman when they were in living in relationship?
Re: Re: Judgement & Justice
by charlie brown on Jul 06, 2011 09:34 AM
the sex for man is more easy than a woman. so tomorrow, will u accept that a man impregnates a woman and marries someone else saying it is his personal choice that she was not sexually favouring him?
Re: It would have been criminal to put maria in jail !
by Bhanu Prakash on Jul 06, 2011 09:32 AM
jawani is irrelevant for crime. HOwever, assuming that she has just helped jerome to dispose the body, her 3 years jail is justified and sufficient.
Law is blind in India but not above the lure of money and sex.
Lawyers can play and plead white as black and black as white.The judge is helpless.
There is no wonder if the parties boast of triamph later.She said that the body was not cut into 300 pieces, probably meaning that it was cut into only 299 pieces.
Instead of discussing here endlessly, if somebody can see that the case is REOPENED,it may be worthwhile.
The Hon'ble court has for once come out of the shadows of media prompting and given a truly lawful verdict.
The case was homicide. There was no planning on the part of Jerome, who even used the kitchen knife which obviously was an impromptu and provoked action on stumbling across his girl friend with another man in an unexpected situation. Hence the conclusion that the charges should be "culpable homicide not amounting to murder" shows the maturity of the judge who was not swayed by the popular media, which many judges these days are falling prey to. Maria obviously didnt have any intention to kill Grover, as she was caught with grover by jerome. After Jerome killed Grover in a rage, Maria didnt have any other option but to support her boy friend, however illegal it may sound it was only human. The verdict that she was only involved in removing the evidence is also perfect judgement. So the media crying hoarse about her lighter punishment is completely arrogant display of media foolishness, and this hoarse cry is because a Judge has in recent past finally been able to see throught the game being played by the media and given a clear headed verdict.
Re: The Indian Media has a terrible attitude
by Ashok Kumar on Jul 06, 2011 10:04 AM
I do not think the objective of the article was to establish Maria as the criminal. It joint points out that on various occassions during the prosecution the investigators didn't do its job comprehensively, leading to the judge having only Maria's "Confession" to rely on. If otherwise, it could have been very authentically established that either Maria was to be sentenced for a more severe punishment or not. The article is not against Maria but against the prosecutors. So no probs.
Re: Re: The Indian Media has a terrible attitude
by Vivek Dev on Jul 06, 2011 10:27 AM
So the reporter wants to prove he/she is more competent than the prosecution lawyers in matters pertaining to law. What it the reporter's qualification, any legal background, experience in figting cases etc. Media can make all kinds of nonsense claims, these people can even teach their dads and mumbs how to do it.
Re: The Indian Media has a terrible attitude
by Vivek Dev on Jul 06, 2011 08:55 AM
Very well said. Media is jumping to all kinds of conclusions without considering the facts of the case. Media should stay out of this.
Re: Re: The Indian Media has a terrible attitude
by Vivek Dev on Jul 06, 2011 10:45 AM
It is not an obligation for a female to have sex with even her legally wedded husband. She can refuse and if husband tries force it is rape. And so what even if her character is not your liking she has to get justice regardless.
... must understand that this is a crime of passion, c.hut has no religion or regional difference. This has been an example of jungle society - 2 d.icks fighting for 1 c.hut.
