Re: SO SAD :(
by Wahaj Faridy on Jan 13, 2011 02:15 PM
You Talk of WAR !!
Do you remember Afghanistan war by Russsia... Iraq war 1, Iraq war of Sanctions... Iraq war 2, Afghanistan war 2, US UK France War on Egypt for Israel..
list will go on and on and on..
You better Go Read History of last 100 years
You can begin by reading book "A Peace to end all Peace... dismantling of Ottomans and creation of Modern Middle East"
This book will explain how after a TRUCE of 200 years between Ottomans and others, West undertook to create middle east of Kings and tyrants who will act as their stooges.
thereafter, Years after years, West sent in armies to bomb civilians in muzlim countries to destroy them... In Iraq, Afghanistan..lebanon.. palestine...somalia
All that global Mu zlim terror that WEST cries about today is reaction of those destroyed families at hands of misguided western powers... Russians... USA, UK... its armed to teath d0g Izzreal.
In Fact Every Country/Society who wants to to be painted as terror victim today is actually a Big time Terror Perpetrator / Tolerator on musl!mz.
...all they are tasting now is small reaction of their victims !!
No wonder they have no interest in discussion on recent past wrongs by them
Re: Re: SO SAD :(
by Aastra on Jan 13, 2011 02:22 PM
For the records,who were the enemies of your brethern 1400 yrs ago? Half the countries you listed didnot exist until 3 centuries ago.But with the sword on one hand and the q in the other hand,a non stop geno'ide was started. And you are a victim of that same events.Somewhere you are a progeny of an enslaved forfather but you are fighting for the same cause that enslaved your forefathers, to start with.
Re: Re: Re: SO SAD :(
by JGN on Jan 13, 2011 02:31 PM
StockholmSyndrom. Recently oneEuropeanW0men ( forgot her name) rped serially for more than 5 days by theTalibanis were claiming that after all they are not soooo baaaad!!!!
Re: Re: SO SAD :(
by JGN on Jan 13, 2011 02:18 PM
Will you talk about the war between ByzantineEmpire and OttomanTurks also? The world did not come into existence just 60 years back!!
mohduddin, no one bashing islam. But the people who follow it are harming others. If you are true to the later part, of nation building, then you are always welcome. Dont feel insecureness here, no one is going to harm you, if you shun all the extreme path. So live peacefully, let others to live peacefully, and be peaceful. You are living in a country full of diversive beliefs and thoughts. Not one relgion. You are having full freedom here to express, your sentiments and feelings, and that you are doing now. No one will harm you. But if it is in the case inside saudi or any other islamic nation, if a chritian or hindu, brings in his thoughts about his relgn, then what would be the sequence? can u imagine?
Re: Wahaj
by Wahaj Faridy on Jan 13, 2011 02:10 PM
What about Harm followers of other faith are doing to Muz lims in first place ??
Go Read History of last 100 years
You can begin by reading book "A Peace to end all Peace... dismantling of Ottomans and creation of Modern Middle East"
This book will explain how after a TRUCE of 200 years between Ottomans and others, West undertook to create middle east of Kings and tyrants who will act as their stooges.
thereafter, Years after years, West sent in armies to bomb civilians in muzlim countries to destroy them... In Iraq, Afghanistan..lebanon.. palestine...somalia
All that global Mu zlim terror that WEST cries about today is reaction of those destroyed families at hands of misguided western powers... Russians... USA, UK... its armed to teath d0g Izzreal.
In Fact Every Country/Society who wants to to be painted as terror victim today is actually a Big time Terror Perpetrator / Tolerator on musl!mz.
...all they are tasting now is small reaction of their victims !!
No wonder they have no interest in discussion on recent past wrongs by them
Re: Re: Wahaj
by Subbu on Jan 13, 2011 02:13 PM
How many you need to copy and paste this? no need. If you want me to copy and paste the details since 7th century, i too can. But will this rediff fourm allow to get it posted here? no. You are wrong my dear. It is not wrong doing against you. It is just defence , they are doing so. Because they want to live in peace. And the path your community is following is not
Re: Wahaj
by mohd uddin on Jan 13, 2011 02:16 PM
Dear Subbu! This world is riddled with issues and problems on all most all the things! And we shouldnt be surprised at that. Now the important thing is how we the inhabitants solve them. Are we cornering one particular group and keep on parotting the hate-lines? Ask yourself. Instead, if we take an holistic view of the issues, only then we can bring the much elusive peace. And there's no point in comparing a secular state with another non-secular one!
There is no way i can fill my belly on flesh animals without killing them
But there can be thousand ways to defend / protect crops against insects and pests without killing them.
Yet, Vegetarians are fine that Farming is done using insecticides and pesticides to kill in millions - painfully - as against a butcher who kills a handful to feed equivalent number of hungry bellies
If you think a bit deeper, Vegetarians are actually advocaters of system that sniffs out million times more lives for food than non-vegetarians
Re: @dharmendra jadoun: Killing (animals) vs Defending (by massac
by Wahaj Faridy on Jan 13, 2011 02:05 PM
I agree ZN presents weak arguments 30 percent times... and I pray to god he avoids giving such arguments in future... But I am sure what I present against Vegetarians is STRONG ARGUMENT
Re: Re: @dharmendra jadoun: Killing (animals) vs Defending (by ma
by Aastra on Jan 13, 2011 02:11 PM
I wish not. If ZN stops yapping the way he does many of us will lead a dull life. Between Jay Leno and ZN, I will always vouch for ZN, where jokes are concerned.
Peace! By now you should have understood that we can find the "self-patting" Islam bashers in full attendance to show-off their hate-filled hearts on these forums. I only pray that the voilent minority among us shun the extreme path and involve in respective nation-building. I also pray for healing of some sick-hearts!
Dr. Hamid's courageous clarion call to Western leaders is that they must address the hate, violence, and domination teachings of Salafi Islam if they are to win the War on Terror. To Muslims, his own people, he insists that acknowledging the reality of the violent teachings that now predominate in mosques is the first step toward changing them.
To Israel Dr. Hamid says, you are not the problem. You are merely in the line of fire of your neighbors chronic ire, an anger taught to Muslims from childhood and throughout adulthood.
Please donot talk tangentially. What I posted in relevant to the way wa'bism is subjugating your brethen in this country.Pak is tasting th sweet nectar of the imports from ksa. So,would you dine with a quiddani?
So the SaudisAre not using anyInsecticide!! A few months back I have readInTheDawn that they have taken lakhs of acres of fertile land in Pakistan for lease for cultivation. Why are they not rearingCamels instead of cultivating foodgrains inPakistan???
mohd uddin, I am a specialist in WaterResourcesManagement. Future wars will be fought over dinking water and not oil. Saana in Yemen is going to be the first city in the world to run out of Drinking Water.
Re: @ Wahaj Faridy and mohd uddin
by Aastra on Jan 13, 2011 01:53 PM
I thought sanna was already out of water. And when the yemenis left dry try to enter ksa, the latter will pound them with gunships. Then some ka'ir NGO will step into bail them out.
Seeking ka'ir help when push comes to the shove is usual for the desert dwellers. Imagine the french spl forces entering into the holy city in '79 to bai out the saudis, after terrorists ceased the grand structure there and took hostages.
