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Avinash
Sridhara Swami's Commentary on 2.31
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:40 PM

Arjuna is being instructed that he should not hesitate in carrying out his duty as a warrior. Just because there is no destruction for the eternal soul. He should without hesitation slay these miscreants who have perpetrated heinous offences. Arjuna stated in chapter one, verse thirty- one that he saw no benefit in slaying kinsman. That argument is now nullified because for a ksatriya there is no better fight than for the sake of righteousness which is in conformity with the Vedic scriptures.


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Avinash
Kesava Kasmiri's Commentary ON 2.31
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:38 PM

Having established the fact that it is not intelligent to lament about the soul of any living entity, Lord Krishna subsequently responds to Arjunas supplication of what is in his highest good with the word svadharmam or principles of righteousness. Not only considering the nature of the soul but one's duty is indicated here as well. Lord Krishna is emphasising this to Arjuna so that he will follow his duty as a ksatriya and act like a warrior. For to act contrary and hesitate or waver is not in accordance with ksatriya code according to Vedic scriptures and such a deviation by Arjuna would be considered an act of unrighteousness. What then is duty? Righteousness is duty which is not separate from those who are righteous. For a ksatriya there is nothing more welcome then the oppurtunity to fight a battle to protect righteousness. As it is stated in Yagnavalkya that the steps taken in warfare are as sacrifices themselves for those who do not turn their backs from battle even though wounded. It is to be understood that Arjunas previous lamentations such as feeling sympathy for his relatives in battle arrayed against him, his body shaking and his hair standing on end, his mind reeling and his loss of equilibrium are all unfavorable to him in executing his duty and thus are not appropriate in this situation.


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Avinash
@ ImposterPGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:36 PM

Ramanuja's Commentary OF 2.31

The virtuous war the Supreme Lord Krishna is instructing Arjuna about would be recorded in the Mahabharata as the Battle of Kuruksetra. Because it involves such great sacrifices of life it should be regarded as within the sphere of a ksatriya's legitimate duties the same as a Agnisomiyam which is the performance of sacrifice to Agni and Soma. Understanding that it is to his merit as a ksatriya to fight this battle Arjuna can have no cause for regret. According to the ksatriya code of ethics no infringement has been enacted by Arjuna or his brothers the Pandava's and so dharma or righteousness is with them. There is no action more meritorious for a ksatriya then to fight for righteousness. The qualities to be found in a ksatriya are heroism, exuberance, determination, resourcefulness, bravery in battle, generosity and leadership. That those slain in battle obtain illustrious heavenly bodies and win other rewards in heavenly spheres has already been mentioned



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Indian
@ PGN
by Indian on Dec 22, 2011 12:31 PM  | Hide replies

Shall we talk about Kooooraaan ? How it asks to kill innocent people by deceit and in a brutal manner ?

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PGN
Re: @ PGN
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 12:51 PM
SINCE Q IS LATER THAN BG AND CLAIMS TO HAVE 124000 SUCH AVTARS BEFORE IT,THE HIGH PROBABILITY IS THAT IT HAS INHERITED SOME PART FROM BG AS IT DID FROM BBL.
ALL RLGNS R B011SHT IS THE SUMMARY.THE LESS TALKED ABOUT Q N B THE BETTER.

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Avinash
Re: Re: @ PGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:54 PM
Koooran is a plagrisedVersion of the BuyBull; Mohd also borrowed from the existing traditions ofPaaaganArabs; Meccca was theTemple ofArabMoonGawd which he was entrusted to renovate by his tribesman!!!

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Indian
Re: Re: Re: @ PGN
by Indian on Dec 22, 2011 12:56 PM
Mohammad becameEnlightened suddenly after marrying a rich JewishLady.

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ PGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:58 PM
And she was oldEnought to be hisMother!!!!!!!

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PGN
Re: Re: Re: @ PGN
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 12:59 PM
ALLAH WAS NAME OF ONE THE LOCAL G0DS. Q WAS COMPILED AFTER 100 YRS OF MOHD'S DEATH

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ PGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 01:12 PM
LMAO!!!!! What about twoDaughters ofAllah?? Were they also calledAlllah or something else????

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PGN
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ PGN
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 01:42 PM
COME OUT OF UR BLUFF

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ PGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 01:56 PM
Pl tell us what happened to twoDaughters ofAlllah.

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Avinash
Who had writtenGita?
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 11:54 AM  | Hide replies

SomeScholars beleive thatBhagwadGita was a later day addition toMahabharata and was written for awakening the lazy IndianKings from their slumber when theChristians set out to conquer the whole world forJesusChrist, armed with PapalBull and theMuslims set out to conquer the world for their MostMercifulCreator with theirSwords!!

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PGN
Re: Who had writtenGita?
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 12:01 PM
U MEAN SHANKARACHARYA ADDED IT IN 9TH CENTURY? THEN IT IS MORE SERIOUS ISSUE

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Avinash
Re: Re: Who had writtenGita?
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:04 PM
It could be even later thanShankarachary'sPeriod!!

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PGN
Re: Re: Re: Who had writtenGita?
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 12:10 PM
BUT ITS CONTENT MATCH WITH VEDIC PERIOD. ANIMAL SACRIFICE WAS NOT PRACTISED AFTER COMING OF BUDHISM N JAINISM.

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: Who had writtenGita?
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:11 PM
Even now someTribalPracticeAnimalSacfifice!!!!!!!! Where doesGita talk aboutAnimalSacrifice???

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PGN
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who had writtenGita?
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 12:18 PM
Bhaktivedanta VedaBase: Bhagavad-gītā As It Is 2.31
"In the battlefield, a king or kṣatriya, while fighting another king envious of him, is eligible for achieving heavenly planets after death, as the brāhmaṇas also attain the heavenly planets by sacrificing animals in the sacrificial fire." Therefore, killing on the battlefield on religious principles and killing animals in the sacrificial fire are not at all considered to be acts of violence, because everyone is benefited by the religious principles involved. The animal sacrificed gets a human life immediately without undergoing the gradual evolutionary process from one form to another, and the kṣatriyas killed on the battlefield also attain the heavenly planets as do the brāhmaṇas who attain them by offering sacrifice.


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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Who had writtenGita?
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:34 PM
You stuck up with the same old tape!! Where does it say so in the originalGita???

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Indian
Re: Who had writtenGita?
by Indian on Dec 22, 2011 12:42 PM
It is not correct Avinash. The fact that most of the teachings in Bhagwad Gita are already in Vedanta establishes its ancient origin and authenticity.

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Avinash
Re: Re: Who had writtenGita?
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:47 PM
While life is yours, live joyously;
None can escape Death's searching eye:
When once this frame of ours they burn,
How shall it e'er again return? - Madhavacharya.

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Indian
Re: Re: Re: Who had writtenGita?
by Indian on Dec 22, 2011 01:12 PM
This is saying from Nastika School & not from Madhava.

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Avinash
@ ImposterPGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 11:48 AM  | Hide replies

Considering also your duty as a warrior, you should not waver. Because there is nothing more auspicious for a warrior than a righteous war. (2.31).............what ever Bhaktivedanta have written are from his fertile imagination. There is no reference to anyRELIGION isGita as there were noReligions at that time!


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PGN
Re: @ ImposterPGN
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 11:54 AM
FIRST READ THE SCRIPTURES CAREFULLY WITHOUT SENTIMENT. NO BLABBERING

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Avinash
Re: Re: @ ImposterPGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 11:55 AM
I have given the exact translation above...........where is the mention ofRELIGION anywhere in theGita???

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PGN
Re: Re: Re: @ ImposterPGN
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 11:59 AM
DID U READ THE COMMENTARY BY BHAKTIVEDANT I PASTED IN OTHER POST? R U MORE PRUDENT THAN SCHOLARS?

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: @ ImposterPGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:01 PM
Anyone one can write any nonsense; I do not hold any brief to defend them.

He seems to be another SCHOLAR like Dr.ZakirNalayak
!!!!!!


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PGN
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ ImposterPGN
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 12:05 PM
U R JUST ANOTHER GREAT NUT. THERE R 4 COMMENTARIES BY SCHOLARS INCLUDING RAMANUJA ON THE SAME FOR THE SAME VERSE.BHAKTIVEDANTA IS ONE OF THE MOST REVERED INSTITUTIONS.HOPE U HAVE GONE....

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ ImposterPGN
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 12:08 PM
AnyTomDick andHarrry can write anyCommentary; there may be hundreds of such commentaries.

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PGN
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: @ ImposterPGN
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 12:15 PM
U PROVIDE A COMMENTARY FROM AUTHENTIC SOURCE(NOT URS).IF BHAKTIVEDANTA,HISTORY SCHOLARS R D&H THEN I THINK U NEED SOME IMMEDIATE..

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Avinash
In a battlefield Cousins may have to keeel cousins
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 11:48 AM

Imagine oneCousin is aSoldier of India and anotherCousin is aSoldier ofPakistan; would they not try to keeel each other if they meet face to face in a battlefield??

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Mahesh Chinchani
Geeta spread violance
by Mahesh Chinchani on Dec 22, 2011 10:31 AM  | Hide replies

There are only two books in this world which teach peace.
1.      Bible
2.      Quran
After reading first book entire Europe come together to sperd the message of peace in the bible. First they went to America and started spreading peace. For that they killed few million Native Americans and after 200 years America is peace loving nation as that of Europe. America spread peace in the world like no other country. So as explained Bible spreads peace.
Second book is really a wonder which is spreading peace like anything. You have seen it in Afghanistan, Pakistan, Egypt, Libya, Syria,Iran,Irak,……. All are living in such a peace and hormony.
The Geeta where it is mostly admired, look at those countries. India, Nepal. Does these countries went anywhere in the world to spread the peace, no because there is no peace in it, it teaches you the violence.


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Utpal Pal
Re: Geeta spread violance
by Utpal Pal on Dec 22, 2011 10:35 AM
Yes Mahesh GEETA is MOST VIOLENT BOOK IT SHOULD BE BANNED.

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Avinash
Re: Re: Geeta spread violance
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 11:25 AM
utpal Pal, pl quote the violent portions ofGita; let us also understand what it contains.

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PGN
Re: Re: Re: Geeta spread violance
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 11:31 AM
UR INTELLECTUALVIOLENCE IS WELL KNOWN

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: Geeta spread violance
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 11:35 AM
LMAO!!! What about the violence in theArabicTerrorManual which caused millions ofDeaths the world over? Mahabharata is only anEpic(Story)!!!!!!

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Geeta spread violance
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 11:36 AM
NoHindu isBlowingHimself for getting theRewardsPromised byKrishna in theGita!!!!

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PGN
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Geeta spread violance
by PGN on Dec 22, 2011 11:40 AM
THEN U GUYS R NOT FOLLOWING BG BUT TRYING TO DEFEND IT JUST LIKE THAT.AT LEAST KSHATRYAS HAVE DUTY TO END THEMSELVES SO THAT THEY CAN ACHIEVE ETERNITY AND GET RID OF CYLES OF REBIRTH

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Avinash
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Geeta spread violance
by Avinash on Dec 22, 2011 11:46 AM
VedaVyasa was talking about theKshatriya'sDuty on theBattleField; he was not askign anyKshatriya to keeeel all on sundry where ever they are found!!!! Do you understand the difference??

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sg sg
is there more to this
by sg sg on Dec 22, 2011 09:54 AM

did a church in russia issuing a ban on the gut feeling that india lead by a christian would not object to the ban or it is a simple matter of local politics

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BappaH Chowdhury
Not sure what to tell these Russian fools
by BappaH Chowdhury on Dec 22, 2011 09:42 AM

Fools will be fools, their karma will guide their future and not any saviour as much as they want to repeat it. Why? Because it is scientific to think that every action has equal and opposite reaction. There are no saviours between the action and reaction.
That is the message of Bhagwad Gita to do your action with utmost respect of the work but never to be emotionally attached as the results are clearly beyond your control. Focus on the work at hand and never the end goal. Do not hate anyone as I reside in all. And I can go on and on but again what will these russian fools understand. May Lord Krishna grant them the ability to comprehend, and realize in future endeavors.

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