The Equality is IslamAndChristianity are just myths. Had it been the case, there would not have been a singleDalit in UP and its surrounding areas ruled by MuslimKings/Sultans for nearly 600 years before the Britishers took over or in Kerala where the MissionariesWere very active.
There isCasteSystem among the Indian/Pak MuslimsAndChristians also.
Re: @ Ahamed
by Ahamed on Aug 29, 2011 06:26 PM
Dear JGNtheAtheist ,
Most of the atheists in india are secularists, most secularists read history too.They have special concern for dalits in history. Most of muslims and Christians and even Buddhists in india are converted from dalits. India got 82% of hindus still living in India after 1000 years of Muslim rulers? How it happened When there is no muslim in spain after Christians Invasion,No aborigines and RedIndians in America and austrlia after Invasion.
Yes I agree with there is a caste system in Indian/Pak MuslimsAndChristians.But Its sub-Continent phenomenona.Not with teachings of Quran and Bible
Re: Re: @ Ahamed
by lookpaul on Aug 29, 2011 06:34 PM
That's because the Brits came and spoiled the party of your forefathers. Anyway, you seem to agree that the Muslims were converting people into their religion
Re: Re: @ Ahamed
by JGNtheAtheist on Aug 29, 2011 06:35 PM
>>>>India got 82% of hindus still living in India after 1000 years of Muslim rulers>>> first of all theMuslims never ruled India for 1000 years. Secondly you are talking about present day India where the IslamicInvaders failed to convrt majority of the natives into theirReligion. Why don't you talk about present day Pakistan and Bengladesha also? How many HindusBuddhistsAndChristians are left in those places now? 98% of present day Pak population areMuslims.
Who is resposible if you guys cannot get rid of theCasteSystem even hundreds of years after convrsion?
Re: kejriwal
by BharatiyaAgni on Aug 29, 2011 06:15 PM
NDTV took money from Italian missionary organisations. Congy takes money from God knows where. MainoMata flies to US and back on God knows whose money. Let's discuss these foreign exchange issues first, before discussing domestic issues.
some traitors cant digest the fact that country is taking positive direction and trying to give communal color to it...
MK gandhi himself was not spared of personel attack , so we shd not care abt attack on anna..we just need to attempt to make india better place to live...everyone irrespective of castes, creed...
Highest bidders for postings get postings in Mumbai and Majarashtra. Mumbai is a financial capital of India. After Mumbai these corrupts gives options for Pune, Nashik, Banglaru, chanai and kolkotta. And these corrupts gets postings as per their chices as they get succeded in managing the Boards and Finance Secretaries. Would finance Minister will look into the matter. This corruption is at high leveland common man have nothing to do with corruption but because of this corruption a huge revenue of Central Govt. of India is blocked so common man have the interest in this type of corruption because this money is only in the development of the nation where a aam aadami is interested in this type of corruption and this type of corrupts shall be removed from the service and shall be punished. Taht commissioenr Daya Shankar shall be given at least ilfe imprisonment?????
Re: Corrupt Trapped???? Contd.....
by BharatiyaAgni on Aug 29, 2011 06:13 PM
send him to Paki with special resident visa in Abbotabad (next to Osama's house)
Dear Avinash Sharma, //jus compare hindu majority india with muslim pakistan...just see the difference between themmm i hope u are rational enough to accept the difference?
Can you please explain difference.Also please explain words "hindu majority india" "muslim pakistan"
Re: Can you please explain difference
by BharatiyaAgni on Aug 29, 2011 06:08 PM
minorities have no rights in Pakistan. Majority has no rights in India. Italians have all the rights everywhere.
Re: Re: Can you please explain difference
by Ahamed on Aug 29, 2011 06:13 PM
Who is these miniority in Pakistan,Who is these Majority in India,In which countries Italians have full rights
Re: Re: Re: Can you please explain difference
by BharatiyaAgni on Aug 29, 2011 06:17 PM
pls read newspapers and develop your general knowledge. Seeing NDTV and CNN IBN soap operas doesn't help.
Re: Can you please explain difference
by lookpaul on Aug 29, 2011 06:13 PM
In India only one mosque was demolished, that too only recently. Your forefathers destroyed many temples in the sub-continent, that too since centuries. How can the offspring of such illustrious folks be any better, that too in a country which is not "sickular"
Re: Re: Can you please explain difference
by Ahamed on Aug 29, 2011 06:16 PM
//In India only one mosque was demolished, that too only recently. Your forefathers destroyed many temples in the sub-continent, that too since centuries. How can the offspring of such illustrious folks be any better, that too in a country which is not "sickular"
Tell me lookpaul how many temples destroyed in India and give me facts.
Re: Re: Re: Can you please explain difference
by lookpaul on Aug 29, 2011 06:19 PM
I thought you were at least familiar with the basics of Indian history (or is it very convenient for you to overlook it). Please revise it and then we can discuss
Re: Re: Re: Can you please explain difference
by Supersecualirist on Aug 29, 2011 06:54 PM
By this reply, you have implied that the number of temples demolished in India runs into thousands. If you can give about your great great great grandfather, then such facts also can be given.
Re: Can you please explain difference
by avinash sharma on Aug 29, 2011 06:18 PM
dear ahmed in 1947 hindus made up 14% of paks population today they are less than 2%. just read the latest india today issue. it is a very poignant story. the fact is that muslims, when in majority, crush other to extinction. when in minority, want equal rights and special treatment.
Re: Re: Can you please explain difference
by JGNtheAtheist on Aug 29, 2011 07:10 PM
Ahamed, If you want to know the condition ofDalits inPakistan, pl read: "SLAVERYIN THE ‘LAND OF THEPURE’: PAKISTAN’STWO MILLIONDALITS" by the same Yogi Sikand.
I don't understand if an hindu goes as per his religion and worships Lord Rama as per his deep belief he is considered fascist.Is in India is it crime to worship hindu gods also.Secondly if you will go in any village,There is no drastic change in dalits condition economicaly,It is same in queens constitunecy or you can say in price constituency that too where whole power of India is concentrated compare to Anna who has negligible government power.Third-Regarding freedom of speech...By freedom of speech you mean one should be allowed to do all the wasted stuff as drinking,smoking and so on.Ask the women there how happy they might be regarding there man.Then what is the advantage of the freedom of speech for the wrong things.Fourth, and last the intellectuals like you would always have thought of self have no right to write anything useless and one can expect from you people no more than this.Go to village and live the hardship life of villege you will come to know..fredom of speech for nothing is important or an simple living ?
Re: If u worship Ram in Hindustan then you are....
by BharatiyaAgni on Aug 29, 2011 06:06 PM
If you praise the country in a village you are a maoist. If you praise the country in the city you are RSS. If you praise Italy you are a patriotic Indian. What nonsense is this!!!
//suddenly islamists have developped love for dalits...first of of all do they treat non muslims as humans? according to them every non muslims are 'kafirs' and have no right to live...
//instead of giving sermon to others these people shd learnt to live together and respect others likfe...
Its islam give some hope to Dalits in several centuries by conversion before ambekar and jyothi and other movments came.
Re: Dear Sam Kim
by SAM KIM on Aug 29, 2011 06:04 PM
do u know the status of ahmadiyas in pakistan??? they dont treat them as musilms only...! in india every religion has been respected...so dont try to devide society based on castes...u got it?
One corrupt Income Tax commissioner Dayashankar is trapped by CBI red handed while accepting a bribe of Rs. 2 lakhs for reducing the Income Tax. He demaded Rs. 25 lakhs of bribe menas for how many lakhs of income Tax would have been evaded by this corrupt Income tax corrupt Commissioenr???? Every year CBI trap many officers from Revenue dept. while accepting bribes and finance Minister do not take any stern action agaisnt these type of corrupt officers who are helping the heavy tax payers for evading the taxes. And after the search of house, residence and lockers of this corrupt officer many crores of rupees will be seized as black money which have no account. How many total number of commissioners are there through out the country from Income Tax, Customs, Central Excise department??? Amd 99.99% if these commissioners are corrupt. And charted Accounts are working as mediators for these type of corrupts. Every Chartered Accountant gives average of Rs. 10 lakhs per Income tac officer for wrong assessment. And if at an avarage of Rs. 10 crores is to be taken as black money with such officers from Income Tax, Customs and Central Excise commissioners are calculated it will be half of the Union budget for each financial year. And that commissioner distribute that black money to the higher officers as well and that money goes upto CBEC and CBDT as well. And also to finance secretary as well. From Board of Indirect and direct taxes their postings are adjusted .
One corrupt Income Tax commissioner Dayashankar is trapped by CBI red handed while accepting a bribe of Rs. 2 lakhs for reducing the Income Tax. He demaded Rs. 25 lakhs of bribe menas for how many lakhs of income Tax would have been evaded by this corrupt Income tax corrupt Commissioenr???? Every year CBI trap many officers from Revenue dept. while accepting bribes and finance Minister do not take any stern action agaisnt these type of corrupt officers who are helping the heavy tax payers for evading the taxes. And after the search of house, residence and lockers of this corrupt officer many crores of rupees will be seized as black money which have no account. How many total number of commissioners are there through out the country from Income Tax, Customs, Central Excise department??? Amd 99.99% if these commissioners are corrupt. And charted Accounts are working as mediators for these type of corrupts. Every Chartered Accountant gives average of Rs. 10 lakhs per Income tac officer for wrong assessment. And if at an avarage of Rs. 10 crores is to be taken as black money with such officers from Income Tax, Customs and Central Excise commissioners are calculated it will be half of the Union budget for each financial year. And that commissioner distribute that black money to the higher officers as well and that money goes upto CBEC and CBDT as well. And also to finance secretary as well. From Board of Indirect and direct taxes their postings are adjusted .
