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kumar  vibhuti
Think about common people
by kumar vibhuti on Aug 08, 2011 10:44 AM  | Hide replies

Hello all anna and his team are trying to blackmail to the govt..... one thing remember we d people selected the MP for five years.. its means we hav full faith on parliament and our constitution. Anna and his team are only want to publicity. if not why they are not raise the issue of other social things which seriously affect the poor state like Orisa, Bihar, Bangal,UP, Jharkhand... Anna always tell he don't afraid of his death.Why he not go to North East and do the rally and all tamasha.. Anna is now 75 years old.. why he wake up after 75 years.. If any survey agency go and do the survey in backward villege of bangal or orissa and if 1% people tell about what is LOKPAL... than We accept the movement of ANNA. They Fool poor people who earn on daily basis..go and ask riskwala in delhi about anna and Lokpal and their rally..they give the real picture..how much they are affected by their rally... So pls Anna Ji I request you before doing the rally and doing all tamasa in the road forst go and try to aware all the things in rural area and think about daily wages common people.

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Prem Mohan
Re: Think about common people
by Prem Mohan on Aug 08, 2011 10:46 AM
I agree with kumar vibhuti. Anna Hazare has woken up after 75 years, but Congress leaders have spent their whole lives in the service of the people of India.

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Chutka Khal
Re: Think about common people
by Chutka Khal on Aug 08, 2011 10:47 AM
Exactly Anna,Govt. Congressis,Randdev,.....Rakhi Sawant r paid huge amount by Sonia G....making tamasha of Amm Admi...All r NautankisIndians AichaBuhosada hyancha

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Chutka Khal
TIME PASS
by Chutka Khal on Aug 08, 2011 10:35 AM

I had been to City Surve Office for surveying my land,and applied for Jaticha Dakhala in Setu,Collector Office,gone for noncremilayer ,for Permenent Driving Lic at RTO,..Municipal Corpn for Ward certificate,....But every where I'm awaitibg for results bcoz I cannot pay in Thou i.e. 1000,100000,500000...fixed rates what Anna and Ramdev,Rahul...al these bhadvas congressi will do All Bakwas aichigand hyanchya

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Chhoti Jaat
3 Idiots
by Chhoti Jaat on Aug 08, 2011 10:27 AM  | Hide replies

LOL

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K Mohanan
Re: 3 Idiots
by K Mohanan on Aug 08, 2011 10:33 AM
Exactly!

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Jantarmantar
Re: Re: 3 Idiots
by Jantarmantar on Aug 08, 2011 10:39 AM
In changed environment , Idiots are actually intelligent people .
So thank you guys for your comment as Baba Swami Ramdev and Anna are equally worth for worshiping for their immesurable service they are doing for Nation.

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Churidar Baba
Re: 3 Idiots
by Churidar Baba on Aug 08, 2011 10:35 AM
No. 2 Idiots. Don't include me in it. Remember, Rakhi Sawant atleast.

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Snowwhite
Support for SMART Janlokpal
by Snowwhite on Aug 08, 2011 10:23 AM  | Hide replies

Let there be quantification of result.

Anna &Team- have categorically and very specifically have said that their version will bring down corruption by 65% and above if implemented in totallity.

Corrupt Govt- Is completely silent over this . They can not give any figure.Surprisingly, no media person raises this issue during Press Conference. Does it mean that Govt plant their own people amongst correspondents so that no baffling questions are raised so that it does not stump them out.

Both the team should give their figures publicly and timeline by the broad objective of Curbing Corruption.

Results will show who is correct. Prima facie , it looks that Governement is buying time to avert and subvert the proceedings. People have woken up and they can not be fooled.
The earlier Government understands it , better it is for them to correct their public image. Kapil Sibal should give Indians the figure to substantiate the points.

Lokpal should be SMART- Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Reasonable and Time Bound.
Each should give Short Term, Mid Term and Long Term Objective with structured Action Plan.

We all know,Without Target, everything is mere eyewash. Some tentative Target should be given. Every Project Manager is asked to give his target before embarking on his work.
People are ready with Govt Jokepal provided they dish out their figure as to what target they have in mind.They have leeway to give band e.g 10-20 % rather giving



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Snowwhite
Re: Support for SMART Janlokpal
by Snowwhite on Aug 08, 2011 10:25 AM
What can not be measured, can never be managed.

Need of the hour, each team should spell out their target.

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bihari babu
No institution can control people.
by bihari babu on Aug 08, 2011 10:23 AM  | Hide replies

Unless we clean people's head, no lokpal can work. most of indian grow up beliveing in short cuts and leziness. they are not trained into workng honestly and be happy with whatever you earn with your sweat and blood. never be greedy and take things that you have not earned. unless this is downloaded in people's head. no lok pal will produce result. thats why i say a people centered revolution is needed in india. we need thousands of honest and passionate leaders in each and every field. they will inspire people not go lezy route. be strong. sacrifice for better life of every one.

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Vijay Sahani
Re: No institution can control people.
by Vijay Sahani on Aug 08, 2011 10:29 AM
You are proposing a solution which is impossible to achieve.

When people see corrupt becoming succesful in life while honest people are hounded by the system, no sane person will choose honesty over corruption. Ordinary citizens are not Mahatmas. They follow the leader, the successful person and adopt the same methods.

Put the rich, powerful and successful people behind bars and confiscate their wealth if they indulge in corruption. lower level people will automatically get the message.

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selvasundar bala
Re: No institution can control people.
by selvasundar bala on Aug 08, 2011 10:36 AM
is anyone listening to you

what u have stated requires a long haul work by anna hazare group

its only some people using him as a mascot to gain centr stage

their anxiety not to include NGOs intheir ambit is underatandable

they say that NGOs who complain agionst corruption will come under pressure

so which means the lokpal designed by them can be used to build pressure on people who are not corrupt too

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Vijay Sahani
Re: Re: No institution can control people.
by Vijay Sahani on Aug 08, 2011 10:44 AM
The Lok Pal proposed by Govt. is NOT designed by them. It's going to be appointed by Goverment nominees.

Besides, the purpose of Lok Pal is to check corruption among civil servants. The government says it doesn't have 20,000 people to cover all bureaucrats but it wants to include lakhs of NGOs which will divert Lok Pal attention away from civil servants where bulk of the corruption is done. Can't you see the nefarious design of the government in inacluding NGOs 9at the cost of lower level bureaucrats)

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Dinesh
what about 2 years prison if complain is found false?
by Dinesh on Aug 08, 2011 10:22 AM  | Hide replies

what about 2 years prison if complain is found false? govt draft have this provison.

Is this right????

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Vijay Sahani
Re: what about 2 years prison if complain is found false?
by Vijay Sahani on Aug 08, 2011 10:26 AM
Also, i don't think the provision for confiscation of property, levying heavy penalty, etc. are there in Govt version of Lok Pal. In any case, the proposed Lok Pal will have no powers to remove corrupt govt. officials. That is something which should happen automatically if Lok Pal is to have some teeth.

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Snowwhite
Patriots Clamour for SMART Janlokpal Bill
by Snowwhite on Aug 08, 2011 10:21 AM


Lokpal should be SMART- Specific, Measurable, Achievable, Reasonable and Time Bound.
Each should give Short Term, Mid Term and Long Term Objective with structured Action Plan.

We all know,Without Target, everything is mere eyewash. Some tentative Target should be given. Every Project Manager is asked to give his target before embarking on his work.
People are ready with Govt Jokepal provided they dish out their figure as to what target they have in mind.They have leeway to give band e.g 10-20 % rather giving



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arun sharma
Pujaris of country
by arun sharma on Aug 08, 2011 10:16 AM  | Hide replies

If India is Bharat Mata then its temple is Parliament from where our democracy is managed.This is your real temple for giving us prosperous and peaceful life to Indian citizen.The pujaris of this temple are MP. Some of these pujaris have made a party and formed govt. BUT IRRESPECTIVE OF PARTY MANY PUJARIS ARE CORRUPT,ON SOME CRIMINAL CSAES ARE THERE.Some corrupt pujaris are businessman and being member does tax evasion.These pujaris are bad characters of all kind,a minority are honest but ineffective. Just imagine what will be the fate of country where corruption is defined and working efficiently and honesty is undefined.The devotees are Indian voters.They should select right pujaris to lead their life for further five years,otherwise anarchy will continue.Our GOD and Fate is controlled by these pujaris who are members at central or state level.

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Chhoti Jaat
Re: Pujaris of country
by Chhoti Jaat on Aug 08, 2011 10:22 AM
I am an Atheist ,



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thu tha
We do not want to know
by thu tha on Aug 08, 2011 09:44 AM  | Hide replies

about Anna bill..we are clear that the path chosen by yuvraj Rahulji is the best for the country...a sense of joy and satisfaction pervades the country as we march triumphantly to the 21st century..with the able international statesman ship of Sibalji, Digvijayji, Rahulji should be given the Nobel Peace Prize

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MSRAMANANDA RAMANANDA
biased
by MSRAMANANDA RAMANANDA on Aug 08, 2011 09:33 AM  | Hide replies

If you are unable to display my message. It shows you are biaced

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Chhoti Jaat
Re: biased
by Chhoti Jaat on Aug 08, 2011 09:35 AM
no, It shows you are a chutiyyaa who dont know how to post in rediff msg board


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