Re: Baluchistan also wants independence from Pak
by markand desai on Sep 07, 2010 07:16 AM
editor appears to be either paid by muslim ngos or him/herself is interested muslim.
Cant understand why the Kashmiris are so obsessed about Pak. Pakis have sold off a part of occupied Kashmir to China; the portion that they still retain has nothing in the name of development, they call the muslims from India as MOHAJIRS, and these mohajirs do not have any constitutional rights. They are treated as doormats by the paki punjabis.India should pack off a bunch of kashmiris to pak and let them see for themselves what lies in store for them.
Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 12:10 AM
mr jallad kashmir dont want to go with pakistan they want independent as they was before, kashmir was never a part of india nor pak. they r really suffering as we all suffer when br1tsh was here, i think more than that. it is better to give them what they want.
Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 12:35 AM
Pl check ur records; The Hurryat is a bunch of Separatist kashmiri who have their mentors in Pak. They are the ones who are spearheading the entire movement. At the time of partition, there were only two options, either they were to go to pak or be with India. The ruler of Kashmir signed the instrument of accession with India and that is how kashmir was acceded to India. If anyone does not want to stay with India, they are free to go. There was no third option. If you think the ruler/govt does not represent the masses, then u r mistaken my dear; in that case every household would become an independet country in itself. Everyone in a country is bound by the rules and regulations (constitution) framed by its ruler/govt. One does not get independence just because one feels like.. Coming to ur second piont about sufferring, what sufferring are u talking about; on the contrary, let me ask u, what have they contributed; the hindus have been killed and driven off, their properties occuoied, the sikhs are being asked to convert, everyday there is lawlessness on flimsy and concocted grounds and u say they have sufferred. They do not work; living off our (taxpayers') money. Whatever the govt is doing for them is much more than what they deserve.If the govt stops the aid for a couple of years, they would know what is what. They will know how much money their paki mentors would give, a state that itself survives on aid from all over the world,
Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 12:45 AM
that is the problem u people will be having media knowledge, u cant find the actually problem and use common sense, yes there was two option but that option was not with people but with the leader sheikh abdulla who was became indian agent,comming under UN rule kash is still disputed. at that time alsoit was diff for kash to beindependent that is why nehrus sppech which u may be aware. but now the recent study says kash can easily survive. regarding ur forcing conversion it is all political game to create prob and to change the main focus, u have to read the reaction of sikhs there and also u dont know the worst politics of india when they kill 35 sikhs and blame terri.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 01:04 AM
fact is fact and the fact is world is still not accepting kash is a part of india why/ why it is still called disputed? why nehru make statement? why in world map kash is seperate?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 01:09 AM
Only pakis call it disputed and inspite of all their efforts at every forum to internationalise it, no one has supported them, not even their masters China, whose ass they lik at any given chance always. On thcontrary there is talk in international circles that pak has to be balkanised and devided into 4 parts, let us see where these cut throats end up
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by bue on Sep 07, 2010 10:35 AM
swati, what is the meaning of kashmiris in your term. Is it only muslims? who gave you right to think on this lines. What about kashmiris pundits, sikhs, gujjars etc., a large chunk has been forced to go out of kashmir. What is the problem with you people. You people first assertain what u want. do not play like fools in the lap of few criminals, ur so called separatist leader. try to know about them. from where they amassed huge wealth. do not make urself fool
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 12:52 AM
Ha ha, i think u must start ur schooling once again......the instrument of accession was signed by Raja Hai Singh; if u do not know that, just look up in google; by the way, the way u talk in half truths and misguided information makes me believe that u r from pak, where they have changed the history books to fuel their propaganda; where they even say that Indusvally Civilisation was a paki civilisation....ha ha
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 01:00 AM
yes it was made by hari sing but not by the people wish but by his own wish, it is same if tomm manmohan will make agreement with US that now on wards india is ur part will u say same thing.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 12:59 AM
Why, all our information is fake and ur informations are authentic !!!!~ where does ur information come from?? u have some kind of a special reporting system of ur own it seems where all subversive activities done by the terrorists and the kashmiris are political gimmics and all the money poured in by the govt are causing sufferrings...... what a scoop; i am dying of laughter, this is real comic, u will put Larry King to shame; maybe he should retire and hand over the mantle of recreating people to u while he himself can take a seat in the audience....ha ha ha ha
Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by lancer on Sep 07, 2010 12:42 AM
kashmir was always independent as it is now but always under eh control of delhi who ever ruled over delhi.can u show any reference when kashmir was totally politically indenpendent?sarfarooshi came begging to to the court of akbar to take over kashmir.go n read history properly.
Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 12:54 AM
kashmir was not strong enough that is y many came rule the kashmir, u r talking ab akbar he was the last person before that there was turkish rule, dogra rule sikh rule and many more bec kash was not strong enough to fight with these people. kash was independent but was ruled by many bec of lack of stregth
Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 12:47 AM
If u feel they can earn their livelyhood, threfuse the billions of rupees in aid that the indian govt gives every year. Let the see what it takes to earn a rupee, just because they are getting everything without even moving a muscle, they indulge in all these anti national activities.The amount of money the govt spends on feeding thes thankless morons can easily be used more constructively elswhere. But why should these ungrateful spuns understand that???
Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 01:08 AM
bri1ish also spend lot of money in india but money cant cover the fact and the wish what people want. how they will survive that is there headache.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 01:19 AM
The more I read ur posts the more i am inclined to think u must start ur schooling all over again.....India was only a colony for the British which they looted, they took raw materials from here and sold their finished products in India, they never spent any money in India, rather they came in the guise of East India Company to do business here. After the second world war, they were bankrupt and because of an understanding with the US, they,as well as the French had to vacate all their colonies across the world. I would again suggest that u go through the proper history books and no the ones published in pak, where they claim that the Indus Valley Civilisation was a paki civilisation and that the pak army fought and defeated alexander....
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 01:29 AM
that means if US will tell we will spend money in india give india to us, u will be ready? u go and read books yea it was type of coloney for them but they spend lot of money. they only looted when they realize that we cant take india now then they start looting.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by hrishikesh vidwans on Sep 07, 2010 02:48 PM
Dont you think Jalim that Swati needs to be learn the facts.. but it seems that she stays in PAK.. so she can never learn the facts.. coz no facts are available in PAK... country itself is FAKE... how come they will have Facts???
PAK and its suportors Need freedom from their existance..
Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 01:14 AM
go and read the UN resolution, find the map in world,it is not paki who is telling it is whole world
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 01:26 AM
Look there is no point in my talking to a mentally deranged person........shallow knowledge is very dangerous.......the international maps show the LOC as the demarketing line.....the UN resolution was superseded by the Shimla agreement....therefore it has no value now and there is no use harping on it.....u have been doing that for 60 years, what have u achieved, u have lost bangladesh in the bargain
Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 12:57 AM
if tomm in india chr1stian will become pm and he will give india to us. will u say same thing that india was not independent it is part of us
Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 01:04 AM
OMG.....U r a real comic....well u should first read the constitution.......it clearly mentions that no person of unsound mind can hold an office in the legislative assy or parliament; so there.......for that matter, u will also be barred from holding an office.......ha ha ha ha
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 01:11 AM
oye use common sense who made constitution when it came in pic. when hari sing rule kash there was no constitution, by the way i was telling if that constitution was not there in india then?
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Pak selling off Kashmir to China
by JGN on Sep 07, 2010 09:17 AM
swati, then you should be aware that Maharaja Hari Singh wanted his small territory to be independent country but he was not able to save his rear end from the PakArmyMen masquarading as triba1s. He singed the Deed of Accession only when heavily armed Pakis reached just 50 kms short of Srinagar. Once the Deed was signed, it became the solemn duty of our ArmedForces to safeguard the territorial integrity of our Country.
If the IndianArmedForces had not intervened at that time, there would not have been any Kashmir for you guys to fight for. You would have been crushed under the b00ts by the SindhiAndPunjabiMuz1ims like what they had done in East Pakistan in 1971.
Instead of being grateful to our ArmedForces for saving, you people are b1aming for controlling the Pak sponsored terr0rism in Kashmir!!!!
Doesnot sya it all? How do you expect Autor to correctly present the situation? The kashmir problem is nothing but a jehad in the name fo freedom. Ask 3500000 Kashmiri Pundits how come they are staying in a refugee CAMPS through out India? How do you expect TRUTH fromthe follower of islam?
Re: Author says 'I am a practising Muslim'
by swati on Sep 07, 2010 12:18 AM
kp wasnot actually thrown out from home it was jagmohan who told them to leave kash for sometime, yes there was some black sheepswho told them leave but thoes black sheeps r every where in evey community. how many times our black sheeps told mus1ims to go but y they didn't bec they knw actual pic. kp is playing same role what chris1ians try to play at the bri1ish rule
50 years of violant, what have you got ? mighty indian and pak govt will make you sandwich. its high time wake up. create 1oos of leaders who promote peace and growth in the valley. dont play with your children's future.
Re: Kashmiri, think about it.
by bihari babu on Sep 06, 2010 11:14 PM
I meant create many leaders who are positive. inspire growth and beauty in the valley. so that world can see the greatness of your culture.
SRINAGAR, India (AFP) - Four people were killed Monday when Indian security forces opened fire on protesters during fresh demonstrations against Indian rule in Kashmir, police said.A total of 69 protesters and bystanders have been killed over the past three months, mostly by security forces who have used live ammunition on rallies.The latest deaths, including that of a teenage student, occurred in Palhalan, about 30 kilometres (18 miles) north of the state summer capital Srinagar, police said.Witnesses said the slain student was not part of the protest.Residents told visiting reporters that security forces opened fire at peaceful demonstrations and that no one among the protesters hurled stones.
Re: Four shot dead in Indian Kashmir protests -Yahoo World News
by JGN on Sep 06, 2010 11:27 PM
This is called peaceful demonstrations!!!!
'A teenaged protester identified as Showkat Ahmad, 16, was killed and over 10 injured when security forces opened fire at a highly agitated stone-pelting mob at Palhalan village today (Monday),' a senior police officer said here.
Re: Re: Four shot dead in Indian Kashmir protests -Yahoo World Ne
by Jalim Jallad on Sep 07, 2010 12:02 AM
Why is the govt spending the taxpayers' money on these good for nothing rogues. Stop the aid for a couple of years and then see if they can lift a stone. These traitors are fed by our money to stab us from behind
