A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. 'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'
We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill.
Re: A View on Islam
by vikas sethi on Sep 11, 2010 06:18 PM
It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China 's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?
History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:
Re: Re: A View on Islam
by vikas sethi on Sep 11, 2010 06:19 PM
Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts--the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand.
Re: Muslims are rioting, in Deganga,West Bengal.
by Gaikawad on Sep 12, 2010 11:22 PM
According to the local Muslims, this group led by Sharan, which has some anti social and criminal elements also, has been playing various tricks to provoke Muslims, who constitute around 50% of the total population, to bring about a communal confrontation but the Muslims claim of restraining themselves to avoid communal riot like situation.
Re: Muslims are rioting, in Deganga,West Bengal.
by Gaikawad on Sep 12, 2010 11:21 PM
Patna: Tension has been gradually mounting over the issue of beef trading in Ababkarpur, panchayat in Vaishali district of Bihar. On the name of Cow protection, a group of Hindus wants the Muslims of the area to stop beef trading, even though the state government has provided them with a license for the trade. Reportedly because of continued aggression by a radical Hindu group over the issue, Muslims of the area have been living in terror.
The group which is led by Mahender Sharan, a self-styled saint who is also a convict who has served jail term in 1998.
This controversy in the area is around 9 months old where there have been several attempts, at times violent, by the group led by Sharan to stop beef trading even at the cost of taking law into his hand.
Re: Re: Muslims are rioting, in Deganga,West Bengal.
by Gaikawad on Sep 12, 2010 11:22 PM
According to the local Muslims, this group led by Sharan, which has some anti social and criminal elements also, has been playing various tricks to provoke Muslims, who constitute around 50% of the total population, to bring about a communal confrontation but the Muslims claim of restraining themselves to avoid communal riot like situation.
Re: Re: Re: Muslims are rioting, in Deganga,West Bengal.
by Gaikawad on Sep 12, 2010 11:23 PM
Playing Bhajan in extreme volume 24x7 In order to make Muslims accept its demands, a group of local Hindus has reportedly been playing bhajan and Kirtan through loudspeakers in an extremely high volume 24x7 since last one month, because of which the life of the Muslims has become hell.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Muslims are rioting, in Deganga,West Bengal.
by Gaikawad on Sep 12, 2010 11:23 PM
The Hindu group has been attributed as saying that, it will continue to make the daily life of Muslim population a hell, unless it agrees to stop trading beef.
Re: Muslims are rioting, in Deganga,West Bengal.
by Golden on Sep 12, 2010 11:12 PM
gandhi also rioted and every one called him terrorist but finally he was proved a father of nation...
gandhi supported a khilafah type of ruling system in india and in kashmir there are already plenty of khilafah lovers...dont worry, very soon the story of freedom will be repeated every where again..
Actully they are not innocent they are throwing stones on the forces so they rightly deserve to bite the bullets, they are actully like terrorists, Indian govn should order to shoot at sight who has throwing stones either they are 10 years old or 80 year old.
Re: And
by Dharmendra Verma on Sep 08, 2010 10:35 AM
Vally is not whole Kashmir, without original Hindu inhabitants it is a symbol of intolrence and fanaticism.Vally's misguided persons are blind and are unable to see that they are far better placed then their counter part in POK.They are spoild by foreign agents that is why instead of raising the voice to liberate POK they are spoiling the progress of Vally.They must show mercy at least to their brotherens who are deprived of to earn for their livlihood because of their stone pelting TAMASHA and depriving the children of valley to attend school.Many well to do Kashmires can afford to send their children elsewhere but what about those who cannot afford. Azadi is gimmick of politicians who are not having mass support base, but have some nuisance value to disrupt the normal life.See the present day Pakistan, are they living a better life than whatever they had before 1947 ? So it is wiser to put your energies for constructive work instead of misguided by others and create porblems for the rest. Please create an atmosphere in which migrated Kashmire Hindus who are still living in Camps should like to go back to their homes in Kashmir and enjoy their peaceful life.
It was 9/11 ,the world trade centre attack when it was decided that Kashmir as well as the Palestine issues will not be solved by terror tactics. The Paki authorities and ISI realized this fact on the same day that their Kashmir policy would not work anymore.It was V Prabhakaran of LTTE who did not understood this changed scenario and he and his LTTE got totallty eliminated. The reason is till 9/11 the USA has conviniently neglected towards any form of terrorism in any part of world as far as it was not directly impacted by it.But with 9/11 USA realized that the terror has reached its doorstep.In a quick action it started banning terror outfits,its logistics support at global level. Today,USA being Pakistan ally and an old friend cannot afford Kashmir becomign an independant state or even part of Paksitan,as that would give boom to the Jehadi terrorism,even China knows that if the seperatis movement in Kashmir suceeds,the immediate threat is for its Ugher province where muslims are in majority and the seperatist movement is going on. What India need to do is just to tajke advanytage of this situation and keep the people away from the sepratists by implementing effective administrations and policies. Kashmir issue is already resolved in favor of India. the remaining part(PoK) would be part of India with the final breakup of Pakistan which is on the verge of collapse.
The paki ISI has cleverly egged on the Islamist radicals to start this stone-pelting movement. It is all too well orchestrated and planned from the ISI headquarters. ISI agents Masarat Alam Bhat and his boss Syed Ali Geelani, both Islamic terrorists, are instigating the kids and want everyone to believe this is a spontaneous freedom movement. Spontaneous movement, my foot!
No Shias, Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhists, who make up 65% of the Kashmiris want to be associated with this sham "freedom movement". Of the remaining 35% Sunnis, only about 15% are rabid Islamists and pro-Pakistan. So, only about 15% of Kashmiris are the real trouble makers and are imposing their views with violence on the rest of the Kashmiris. So, the real solution is to ruthlessly eliminate these 15% terrorist paki agents.
Re: Re: independence
by greatHindu on Sep 11, 2010 11:37 AM
No one have courage to give freedom to kasmir we have the courge give the bullets to these faackiing kasmiris, realy bbbbllooody muslime need bullets in thier aaasss.
