by naking temple , mosque , chruch we are confirning the ominipotent creature to a small and we are thinking GOd as human like another human thanks to artists who made pictures of these Gods. Did anybody see God . God is exist in heart of Man not in mud rock soil or cement structures. He is inside you . So dont fight for these . We are human being with temporary embodement here
Re: GOD NOT EXIST IN MAN MADE STRUCTURES
by Varun on Oct 18, 2010 11:14 PM
Not only exists. God exists in everything. God is inside you as well and is not a he or a she.
Re: GOD NOT EXIST IN MAN MADE STRUCTURES
by satya.vachak@rediffmail.com on Oct 18, 2010 10:44 PM
you are right God is everywhere by virtue of his power and knowledge. That's why babari mosque is still there albiet without structure
Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD NOT EXIST IN MAN MADE STRUCTURES
by benny george on Oct 18, 2010 10:55 PM
christianity is a monothesitic one present day it is devaited
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD NOT EXIST IN MAN MADE STRUCTURES
by JGN on Oct 18, 2010 11:08 PM
Asatya vachak, id0latory exists in all re1igions, including iz1am; otherwise there is no need to go all the way to the arrabiandeserts for w0r4shipping a f0rmlessg0d!!
Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD NOT EXIST IN MAN MADE STRUCTURES
by JGN on Oct 18, 2010 11:09 PM
Then why you guys are going all the way to the arrrbian deserts for circum-ambulating a st0ne structure???
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD NOT EXIST IN MAN MADE STRUCTURES
by satya.vachak@rediffmail.com on Oct 18, 2010 11:16 PM
you can stand on that structure.. can u do with idol..
sorry u r off the mark. ur knowledge about monoethism is very weak
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: GOD NOT EXIST IN MAN MADE STRUCTURES
by JGN on Oct 18, 2010 11:24 PM
hahahahhaahahahahahahahahahha!!!!!! Forget standing, you cannot go any where near that structure. I care two h00t for your m0notheism.
All re1igi0ns are based on a bund1e of lies. There is no proof for the existence of anyg0d, least of all the jea1ous WestAsianVariety.
1. Why templesareNATIONALIZED while churchesandMosques are not? 2. Why Muslims have a separate law, while all others have a civil code of conduct? 3. Why accommodate always the Muslims firts, by giving free trips to SordidArabia? why so special?
Re: Re: Re: Questions to Secularists
by satya.vachak@rediffmail.com on Oct 18, 2010 10:41 PM
exactly politician, judiciary and administration ignored the truth and sided with lie for vested interest
Re: Questions to Secularists
by this that on Oct 18, 2010 10:37 PM
TEMPLES ARE NATIONALIZED TO LOOT TEMPLES. THIS HAS HAPPENED IN ALL STATES INCLUDING WHERE HINDUS ARE IN MINORITY LIKE NORTH EAST, KASHMIR, ANDHRA, ETC.
Re: Re: Questions to Secularists
by Manish Gupta on Oct 18, 2010 10:44 PM
Agree with you all. I guess now lord shri Ram will have to take birth to eliminate those sinisters. This pseduo-secularism which is just another way to make hindus feel insucre in their own country by their own people.
Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Questions to Secularists
by satya.vachak@rediffmail.com on Oct 18, 2010 11:18 PM
yes jain and buddist temple broken by vedic people
the actual loosers by the judgement are hindus but as usual, as taken for granted by judges also, hindus kept quiet even when they are loosing 1/3rd of their land. Muslims are projected as loosers by the pesudo secular congress government and hindus are shown as benefitted. jago Bharat jago. jai Hind
Re: the actual loosers are hindus in this case
by this that on Oct 18, 2010 09:57 PM
I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT IT IS POSSIBLE TO DEAL WITH ISSUE IN SOMANATH WAY. GUESS THATS NOT POSSIBLE.
REMEMBER WHAT KRISHNA SAID, THAT IT IS A NATURAL LIMIT THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID GOOD VS BAD FRICTIONS.
Re: the actual loosers are hindus in this case
by salim salim on Oct 18, 2010 09:59 PM
Loosers are Indians, Indian legal system, Indian constitution. The whole system has to be subservient to foul play of a few who fanned the flames of hatred there by injuctcing ego (in the name of 8 lakh year old myth) to thwart the system evolved thru the best brains of the country.
Re: Re: the actual loosers are hindus in this case
by Bharath Varsh on Oct 18, 2010 10:34 PM
WHAT ABOUT THE VIOLENT FAITH WHICH IS GOING ABOUT BOMBING THE WHOLE WORLD?
Re: Re: Re: the actual loosers are hindus in this case
by M a on Oct 18, 2010 10:52 PM
MYTH CANT BE TRUE ITS A MYTHOLOGY AND U ALL KNOW DAT RMYNA IS MYTHOLOGY
Re: Re: Re: the actual loosers are hindus in this case
by satya.vachak@rediffmail.com on Oct 18, 2010 10:48 PM
flaw lies in your understanding of god.. Ram is ideal human being as described in epic Ramayana. He was ideal king but perhaps not ideal husband... He himself said to have worshipped god.
Re: Re: the actual loosers are hindus in this case
by jatinder nayar on Oct 18, 2010 11:02 PM
When all other religions will be as old as 8 lakhs years old then they will also become myth for you.
Hindu religion is the oldest religion read the Rigveda, Autherveda and other Ved purans this will widen your thinking and improve your life. These books are slowly being forgotten and left to ignore by our schooling system.
Re: Re: Re: the actual loosers are hindus in this case
by satya.vachak@rediffmail.com on Oct 18, 2010 11:07 PM
Judges found exact place where delivery happened 8 lakhs years ago..
ALL THE OTHER MINORITIES OF THIS NATION ARE FED UP WITH THIS ISSUE..ITS AN OPEN FACT THAT AYODHYA IS AN HINDU HOLY SITE..INFACT THE HOLIEST IN INDIA.
SO AS FAR AS GOODWILL,COMMONSENSE,FAITH,LOGIC,SECULARISM, HISTORY,GOES ALL ARE IN FAVOR OF THE HINDUS.NONE FOR THE MUSLIMS .WE ALL SEE THERE EXISTS NO PLACE FOR ISLAM/CHRISTIANITY IN AYODHYA.
MUZLIMS SHOULD LEARN TO ABIDE IN GOODWILL PEACE HARMONY AND SECULARISM RATHER THAN THE RABID HATE THEY FOSTER AMONGST VARIOUS COMMUNITIES..ITS BEST IN NATIONAL INTEREST FOR THE MUZZLES TO GET OUT OF AYODHYA AND GET OUT OF THIS MUDDLE AND JOIN THE NATIONAL MAINSTREAM AND BECOME AN PART OF NATIONAL BUILDING RATHER THAN ALWAYS TO CRIB AT THE SAME TIME NOT ALLOW DEVELOPMENT IN THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES.
Re: MY SIDE!!
by salim salim on Oct 18, 2010 07:54 PM
Ramakatha is not just associated with Ayodhya it is in every state. In Wayanad kerala there is Sitas Rasoyi, and place of Aram. Why should the judges disregard the faith of millions from other states. It is with common sense, history, logic, faiths that contitution and the present legal system of India was formed. 8 lakh years old ramkatha is embedded in Indian soil but it should not shake the basic pillars of India the constitution and legal system which is formed thru centuries by best brains. The one and only solution is arbitration at highest level of the court. Only by fanning the flames of hatred and inflating the egos of people for political gains injected illogical elements to a strong legal system.
Re: Re: MY SIDE!!
by jaihind123456@rediffmail.com on Oct 18, 2010 09:09 PM
common civil code for all Indians is the main solution for all theses. There should not be separate judgement for muslims, hindus, christians or any body whether thiest or athiest. Jai Hind
Re: MY SIDE!!
by this that on Oct 18, 2010 09:52 PM
YOUR CONCERNS ARE QUITE REASONABLE. TO PROTECT RIGHTFUL PRAYER IN ONE MASJID MUSLIMS ARE READY TO DOUBT ENTIRE FAITH OF HINDUS, ACCUSE EVEN JUDGES AND ASI, AND IN GENERAL SOW SEEDS OF DISTRUST AMONGST VARIOUS RELIGIONS IN INDIA.
I HOPE THIS ISSUE IS DEALT BETTER WITH FORMULA OF SOMANATH.
BUT I ALSO REMEMBER WHAT KRISHNA SAID, THAT BATTLE OF GOOD VERSUS BAD CAN NOT BE AVOIDED SUCH ARE THE LIMITS OF NATURE AND HINDUS WILL HAVE TO FIGHT IT OUT FOR THE SAKE OF NOT ONLY BELIEFS BUT ALSO TO UPHOLD MULTIFAITH PEACE IN INDIA.
XIANS ARE SOMEWHAT WORRIED BECAUSE THESE MUSLIMS WILL NOT MIND DRAGGING XIANS IN HOPELESS CASE AND SPOIL IT FOR XIANS EVEN WHEN THERE IS NO WAY XIANS ARE INVOLVED HERE.
"Sangh Parivar's legal side outwitted us... there was no one to help the Waqf side"
"We were caught on the wrong foot..."
"seems to have been manipulated right from the beginning..."
"Archaeological Survey of India was manipulated to buttress the Sangh's version ..."
"...came under sharp criticism from distinguished historians for its bogus and fraudulent claims. It was the latest in a series of trickery to construct and manufacture a new case."
"...But we must not demonise the judges and cast aspersions on them."
"The British were responsible..."
" talks began around the mid-1800s about a Ram temple in Ayodhya..."
"where Hindus offered prayers in the alleged birthplace of Lord Ram. It put Hindu-Muslim unity at peril..."
"... miscreants surreptitiously installed statues of Ram and Sita"
"The real culprit was then Uttar Pradesh chief minister Govind Ballabh Pant..."
"Muslims have been stabbed in the back over the decades"
"it is only the quantum of the share that has got the parties upset..."
"After this judgment, the Sangh Parivar cannot build the temple of their choice, as there are size constraints with a portion c
Re: THE LANGUAGE OF SECULARIST FOR RIGHTS IS STRANGE
by alok Misra on Oct 18, 2010 11:17 PM
It is not right to doubt the professionalism of ASI. It has both Hindus and Muslims officers.Also the gentleman must read the accounts of various travellers to India during this Period .In Muslims I believe there are two types one who inherit from Foreigners like Arabs/ Iranians etc and other who got converted for onereason or the other. I believe the other think better on national issues. I might be wrong but it is time the first one complies with the fact of life and give up normal thinking of victors towards India
Re: THE LANGUAGE OF SECULARIST FOR RIGHTS IS STRANGE
by this that on Oct 18, 2010 05:20 PM
ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORY TO DEMONISE HINDUS AND LOOK DOWN ON INDIAN JUDICIARY, SURVEY INSITUTIONS AND GOVERNMENTS FOR THE SAKE OF MOSQUE BUILT ON TOP OF RUINS.
Many people seem to believe that the BJP/RSS started all this fuss. Actually, there has been trouble at Fyzabad long before that. Records show that the Nawabs of Oudh had to spend considerable money to station troops in Ayodhya to keep the Hindus (mainly the Bairagis) and the Muslims from killing each other.
